2 CLDs and Shadow foot in 2 days ???

[tyk]

If your avatar can loot a cld token it can loot multiple. If you cannot loot any real mu items you just can't.

was talking about this yesterday with friend.. my best MU loot since 2006 has been +400 then rest under 100ped.. friend has played as long and had best markup from hunt +100ped..

but he got lucky yesterday and looted one of those jag arms from levi but this new rare item hoflist os gonna be pain for ppl who never get anything fancy to see same faces get items and hofs...

 

[Rikky]

We have a new pope today, first time ever a noneuropean and a jesuit. Benedictus XVI was the first pope to abdicate since 1415 and the first one to abdicate by his own choice since 1294, so stuff happens. BTW gratz to the looter.

 

[RickEngland]

Well I will contrbute also.

First of all massive gratz to looter.

Here's some food for thought.

For years I ticked along in EU building skills, mostly hunted Atrox and Ambuls and Big drones and very occasionally moved up a bit higher mobs to do 100 or 500 missions, then pulled back becasue I was worried about ped burn.

One day i logged in and said enough is enough, my avatar is going nowhere, I hardly ever loot anything decent.....I want to take it to the next step.

I went on scips, sure it cost me a fortune in armour bill at the start, then I went on summina....then I built enough confidence to go do the 1000 missions on Aurlis and Kreltins.

I then got involved in CLD with deposits in a big way, and have continued to skill on much bigger mobs.

The consequence of my changes in game has meant the last 18 months to 2 years has been the most enjoyable of my 7+ years in game than ever before. I have certain targets to reach this year, then will consider stepping up again, and taking on Prot mission in a big way and spiders, or moving to bigger scips on something like that.

My point being it's very easy to be caught in a rut with EU, and think you can't escape what you consider as skilled hunting or skilling. It's time for many I feel to really step up...add a $200 deposit and go all in on something bigger than your norm......the game will surprise you.

I get some nice loots now, but bear in mind I now pump in and turnover 10,000's of ammo on a regular basis.

Go get your loot...only you can seek your own sucess, it is not handed to anyone.

Besides all my hof's dont equal on big HOF or ATH, but I try to show what EU has got, and post my 1K hofs, quite a lot dont.

Good Luck and go get it.

Rick.

 

[Xander Catman]

don;t forget both cld's were on the same drop !

A soc mate of mine looted 2 CLD's in same drop as well.

XZC

 

[Mika]

Gratz to the looter indeed!

And little has changed in the community it seems

I still remember the warm 'words' I received when I got my ATH in crafting doing pure gambling without skills in crafting at all after hunting since 2005 hit big during 2009 becoming utterly hated.

If someone can prove that someone "new" or someone without any skill continuously hit big more than once, then perhaps conspiracy is in order, but until then, still seems to be a lot of jealousy around.

Always hate the new guys getting stuff, never hate the same top 5 hunters top 2 crafters or top 2 miners getting good things constantly ^^

 

[Rikky]

Gratz to the looter indeed!

And little has changed in the community it seems

I still remember the warm 'words' I received when I got my ATH in crafting doing pure gambling without skills in crafting at all after hunting since 2005 hit big during 2009 becoming utterly hated.

If someone can prove that someone "new" or someone without any skill continuously hit big more than once, then perhaps conspiracy is in order, but until then, still seems to be a lot of jealousy around.

Always hate the new guys getting stuff, never hate the same top 5 hunters top 2 crafters or top 2 miners getting good things constantly ^^

Thats diffrent; I dont hate this guy, I have no objection about this, but comparing the top hunters/miners/crafter who has a huge turnover and gametime invested with pure luck like this case is wrong.

 

[Rikky]

Well I will contrbute also.

First of all massive gratz to looter.

Here's some food for thought.

For years I ticked along in EU building skills, mostly hunted Atrox and Ambuls and Big drones and very occasionally moved up a bit higher mobs to do 100 or 500 missions, then pulled back becasue I was worried about ped burn.

One day i logged in and said enough is enough, my avatar is going nowhere, I hardly ever loot anything decent.....I want to take it to the next step.

I went on scips, sure it cost me a fortune in armour bill at the start, then I went on summina....then I built enough confidence to go do the 1000 missions on Aurlis and Kreltins.

I then got involved in CLD with deposits in a big way, and have continued to skill on much bigger mobs.

The consequence of my changes in game has meant the last 18 months to 2 years has been the most enjoyable of my 7+ years in game than ever before. I have certain targets to reach this year, then will consider stepping up again, and taking on Prot mission in a big way and spiders, or moving to bigger scips on something like that.

My point being it's very easy to be caught in a rut with EU, and think you can't escape what you consider as skilled hunting or skilling. It's time for many I feel to really step up...add a $200 deposit and go all in on something bigger than your norm......the game will surprise you.

I get some nice loots now, but bear in mind I now pump in and turnover 10,000's of ammo on a regular basis.

Go get your loot...only you can seek your own sucess, it is not handed to anyone.

Besides all my hof's dont equal on big HOF or ATH, but I try to show what EU has got, and post my 1K hofs, quite a lot dont.

Good Luck and go get it.

Rick.

Youre absolutely right - going big is alot more fun. I dont think its more gambling hunting big mobs when you have skills than low level mobs with little or no skills - its just more turnover.

 

[Torene]

Well I will contrbute also.

First of all massive gratz to looter.

Here's some food for thought.

For years I ticked along in EU building skills, mostly hunted Atrox and Ambuls and Big drones and very occasionally moved up a bit higher mobs to do 100 or 500 missions, then pulled back becasue I was worried about ped burn.

One day i logged in and said enough is enough, my avatar is going nowhere, I hardly ever loot anything decent.....I want to take it to the next step.

I went on scips, sure it cost me a fortune in armour bill at the start, then I went on summina....then I built enough confidence to go do the 1000 missions on Aurlis and Kreltins.

I then got involved in CLD with deposits in a big way, and have continued to skill on much bigger mobs.

The consequence of my changes in game has meant the last 18 months to 2 years has been the most enjoyable of my 7+ years in game than ever before. I have certain targets to reach this year, then will consider stepping up again, and taking on Prot mission in a big way and spiders, or moving to bigger scips on something like that.

My point being it's very easy to be caught in a rut with EU, and think you can't escape what you consider as skilled hunting or skilling. It's time for many I feel to really step up...add a $200 deposit and go all in on something bigger than your norm......the game will surprise you.

I get some nice loots now, but bear in mind I now pump in and turnover 10,000's of ammo on a regular basis.

Go get your loot...only you can seek your own sucess, it is not handed to anyone.

Besides all my hof's dont equal on big HOF or ATH, but I try to show what EU has got, and post my 1K hofs, quite a lot dont.

Good Luck and go get it.

Rick.

I put $200 in...then $200 more...then $200 more...spent $4000 working my up 'briefly' to #2 crafter...at the moment my ped card has about 100 ped on it. Up to 26 attachment engineer in 2 months, chipping it back out because my loot was much better without the damn skills.
So simply saying that depositing in improves your game is a crock of shit. Maybe for hunters, idk.
Anyhow, gz to the lucky person

 

[Mika]

Thats diffrent; I dont hate this guy, I have no objection about this, but comparing the top hunters/miners/crafter who has a huge turnover and gametime invested with pure luck like this case is wrong.

Then I think you need to rethink your concept of understanding what "luck" means, no offence.

Because if the game operates with a non biased RNG, then well, luck is luck. and as always it seems, hunting bigger is as if you got more rows in lotto, your chances to win are bigger. but at the end of the day, it is still luck hehe

 

[Dab]

Roy Cleveland Sullivan (1912-1983) was a park ranger in Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. Between 1942 and 1977, Sullivan was hit by lightning seven times, which earned him an immortal place in the Guinness Book of World Records.


http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/news-man-who-was-stuck-lightning-seven-times


All seven of these strikes were documented both by the Superintendent of Shenandoah National Park, and by doctors who treated Sullivan—hence, his Guinness Book of World Records status.

Sullivan finally died at the age of seventy-one from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in the stomach. It was reported that he was suffering from unrequited love.

 

[Coelacanth]

Last night, I noticed one common avatar score a big uber-loot on a mob while hunting. 1700+ PEDs I believe. Within the same hour, the same avatar scored several globals and another, even bigger uber while crafting.

But wait--this is statistically improbable, isn't it? Loot "following around an avatar"? No, THAT can't HAPPEN, right?

It's statistically improbable enough that a player can score multiple ubers and globals in a 1-hour period, but it becomes exponentially more improbable when that player scores ubers in different activities; i.e. hunting AND/OR mining/crafting.

This is not about jealousy, it's about fairness and the lack thereof. Just as one particular avatar can somehow trigger ubers at a vastly increased rate of probability, as it's all because of programming, other avatars--by way of extension of this logic--can suffer the reverse fate. I don't see why this is so hard for people to grasp; we see evidence of it every day, every VU, and for some, a decade later it's no different.

 

[sakuraqueen]

maybe some avatars know how loots works and have crack the system a bit, then utilize it

 

[narfi]

...

If you are on a lucky streak start cycling like crazy!

one of three things will happen,

1. You will win big
2. You will loose big
3. Nothing

Rather it is pure luck or mathematical curves there is defiantly and 'observable' wave to returns.

You can either believe or not believe, and that belief or lack of belief will lead you to behave in what others and even yourself would consider 'irrational' at other times.

Irrational behavior + good multipliers = great loot

For some that behavior at that time comes from luck, for other it is because they act 'irrational' all the time, and for some perhaps a true understanding of the system.

I have gone thousands of ped on 2k hp mobs without a global, I have had 5+ global/hofs an hour from the same mobs at other times. I have single mindedly focused on killing 50k hp mobs for months to turn around and get multiple ubers within an hour or two when that spawn stopped and I was limited to smaller mobs.

I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what you believe in the game, its how you react that effects your outcome.
And to be honest... its easier to react at the right time if you are stupid, superstitious, or clueless than if you think you are smart and have the game figured out.

 

[KlowN]

I'm still curious on these 6A & 5B special plates. Ok, so you toss them in the refiner and can get "Disassembled Armor Plating"....but, i'm very curious on how these discoveries happened so fast yesterday lol. I mean really...who thinks "oh..let me toss my 6A in my refiner...".

 

[narfi]

I'm still curious on these 6A & 5B special plates. Ok, so you toss them in the refiner and can get "Disassembled Armor Plating"....but, i'm very curious on how these discoveries happened so fast yesterday lol. I mean really...who thinks "oh..let me toss my 6A in my refiner...".

Text in the mission chain? (I don't know, haven't got my 5k done yet)

 

[-Archangel-]

I mean really...who thinks "oh..let me toss my 6A in my refiner...".

I would.

Do you remember how most DNA was found, what about the special "ingots"


Some people are curious (and have enough time and resourses to get something out of it).

 

[TheLastKnight]

I think part of the big problem here is that people are quick to attack the "lucky" players. Lucky, I find, is defined as a nobody or a newbie who gets something nice. It's easy to isolate these individuals by tracking them down on tracker then crying foul when his/her stats are squat.

How often do you get on to tracker, see that the "lucky" avatar is someone who's been grinding for a few years, then complain about it? You don't. Time and time again you have regulars (someone with couple hundred k cycled based on tracker) who hit something nice....yay for them...but they don't hit your radar as someone with "900ped total loot" for hunting would.

 

[Capt.Dex]

still wondering about the mob, wich dropped the shadow footies

 

[SpikeBlack]

Check my tracker stats, if you only look at the tracker you'd think I had taken a break for nearly 4 years

I've been grinding away on the low level mobs and so barely feature on it and have less than a page in 7 years of playing (just not to the extent many do). So could I expect the same treatment if I get a lucky loot?

If something like this really annoys you then best not to go looking for it and ignore the globals and hofs, concentrate on your own playing and not someone elses

 

[Max Gaynes]

Last night, I noticed one common avatar score a big uber-loot on a mob while hunting. 1700+ PEDs I believe. Within the same hour, the same avatar scored several globals and another, even bigger uber while crafting.

But wait--this is statistically improbable, isn't it? Loot "following around an avatar"? No, THAT can't HAPPEN, right?

It's statistically improbable enough that a player can score multiple ubers and globals in a 1-hour period, but it becomes exponentially more improbable when that player scores ubers in different activities; i.e. hunting AND/OR mining/crafting.

This is not about jealousy, it's about fairness and the lack thereof. Just as one particular avatar can somehow trigger ubers at a vastly increased rate of probability, as it's all because of programming, other avatars--by way of extension of this logic--can suffer the reverse fate. I don't see why this is so hard for people to grasp; we see evidence of it every day, every VU, and for some, a decade later it's no different.

That was me last night! I got a 1700+ on an Aurli then decided to go craft my EK-2600 bp and hit a 2800+. I would love to say I have some secret knowledge but I'm like everybody else, I've put my time and PEDs in. I'm not new, you can check my entropialife profile: Max MG Gaynes -- you'll see that I prefer hunting and crafting. I suspect people who specialize in either hunting, mining or crafting that play regularly and for long durations are the ones that get rewarded.

 

[Futurama]

About the hof streaks: it's the same old question - is there a difference between 20k hof and one person hitting 4 5k hofs in a week or so?


Usually there is "nothing wrong" with the 20k hof (unless its a newcomer) but if someone gets 4 5k hofs than the shit hits the fan.

 

[helena]

"Entropia is dynamic...."

just look at who get the rare items since vu, and tell me if it is about luck or about ma's short list
this guy is maybe just a ma friend avatar, "hey look! shadow drop !"

 

[remontoire]

If your avatar can loot a cld token it can loot multiple. If you cannot loot any real mu items you just can't.

Yes, and yet our avatars are supposed to be equal?

 

[Serica]

Yes, and yet our avatars are supposed to be equal?

mmm... I think they only ever said that everyone STARTS equally. After that, perhaps it's dynamic

 

[RickEngland]

That was me last night! I got a 1700+ on an Aurli then decided to go craft my EK-2600 bp and hit a 2800+. I would love to say I have some secret knowledge but I'm like everybody else, I've put my time and PEDs in. I'm not new, you can check my entropialife profile: Max MG Gaynes -- you'll see that I prefer hunting and crafting. I suspect people who specialize in either hunting, mining or crafting that play regularly and for long durations are the ones that get rewarded.

Good for you Max

To hit a sweet hunting hof at CP, and then risk it at the crafting terminal takes even more guts....so you deserved it.

Both those activities take a lot of ped input to seek returns. I'm trying to convience players to up thier game as generally that is where the rewards lie.

It's hard for many to accept that generally more peds need to be put in, to get more out.

Anyhow gratz and may there be many more for you

Rick

 

[remontoire]

mmm... I think they only ever said that everyone STARTS equally. After that, perhaps it's dynamic

I don't have any of the quotes at hand and not inclined to search atm (sorry, my bad). Obviously somebody who has only TT sword and no armor is not equal to somebody with shogun + philosopher sword in most eu situations involving hunting.

It would be good to have a definite statement that said something along the lines of :

Two avatars with same levels and same equipment will have the same chances of receiving large loots and receiving special loots.​

There have been enough mining tests to tell us that the regular loot categories are the same for everybody in mining, but the drops of oots loots, much like drops of items in loot, is uncovered.

 

[Rave]

I've gotten 5k, 8k, 11k, and 13k ubers all in one 2 hour period before when crafting. Then again I've been playing for 10 years... but it IS possible to get a lot of luck in a small period of time. But I agree with the posts about how EU is programmed with poor coding opposed to pure statistical lotto drawings or highly coded casino slots.

But in the long term, my loot is still FAR below even 50% return even with that lucky streak I had. So seeing a newb who barely cycles 100 PED a day get such loot is definitely frustrating. I've honestly lost all hope in this game, hence having not logged in for months. Whomp.

 

[Downfall]

I've gotten 5k, 8k, 11k, and 13k ubers all in one 2 hour period before when crafting. Then again I've been playing for 10 years... but it IS possible to get a lot of luck in a small period of time. But I agree with the posts about how EU is programmed with poor coding opposed to pure statistical lotto drawings or highly coded casino slots.

But in the long term, my loot is still FAR below even 50% return even with that lucky streak I had. So seeing a newb who barely cycles 100 PED a day get such loot is definitely frustrating. I've honestly lost all hope in this game, hence having not logged in for months. Whomp.

Were you crafting attachments on condition? That would easily explain both a number of ubers and a very low return rate, especially if the success rate wasn't maxed.

 

[tyk]

what MA has said all the time from the start about avis is "all avatars are equal, gear and skills might have effect on loot but its no quarantee" thats what ive received always. and i think its a lie i mean the equal avatar thing.. at most it could be equal chance on avatar making to hit a "lucky" avatar.. this is going overboard again.. another hof list added so we can be more pissed coz same faces getting lucky all the time... i checked my deposit list yesterday and it made me do sadface so much $s spent within very short time without seeeing anything fancy.. and while talking to ppl who have no challenge to play month with under 100usd in same activities i do.. but ofc if they can hof ofcourse it works coz i cant

 

[Fort]

I'm still curious on these 6A & 5B special plates. Ok, so you toss them in the refiner and can get "Disassembled Armor Plating"....but, i'm very curious on how these discoveries happened so fast yesterday lol. I mean really...who thinks "oh..let me toss my 6A in my refiner...".

Nothing fishy
The info is given in the mission chain.