Teens EU Summer Jobs in the news

As previously discussed - EU has to have its "success stories" which are then carefuly marketed. This was driven to extremes with Cobra Boners claims he offered 150k$ for CND while ND got it for 100k$. This seems like as previously mentioned careful marketing where MA saw ND as better PR prospect than poor english speaking Cobra.
Bullshit :wise:

The buyout was set to 1 million, doesn't matter how much more than that people say they offered. Now if Ben could prove he had 1 mil on his account and made the bid before ND did, then, and only then, would he have a claim. Fact is, he cant prove that.

Way off-topic in any case.

Now lets face it - if you earned 1000$ - someone lost 1200$
Nope. Almost every high-end item in the game has made profits for multiple people. Each time it gets sold on it makes a profit for someone else (in theory anyway, obviously I dont have the actual figures for these sales). Only the people holding them currently are yet to make a profit. Maybe Warz will struggle to sell his FAP for more than 420k, who knows, but at least 2 people have made profit on that FAP already (Stryker and whoever he bought it off).

Comment to Da Dragon:
we are tlaking poor innocent kids - the ones who see EU and say wow... not the ones who looted Mod Anything and sold it for 75k PED to bump start their career. Gratz to your success tho - glad you put it into good use - and not cars and hookers :D
No, were not talking poor innocent kids, were talking grown-ups who are responsible for their own lives and their own wallets. I dont want to be treated like a child thanks very much, and I appreciate the fact that MA doesnt (well not too much).
 
But still you looted that stuff and sold it for enough to buy the stuff you still have, and that has gone up in price also. Plus being able to skill pre-nerf has made you allot more.

Partially true yes but most of it was from profits... I didn't need the drops to buy the items I want I just used what I was given and turned it into something that improves what my profession was.
I am where I am at today cause of hard work.. If I never looted the Mod Dar not much would have changed.. My angel might be mixed with a couple tiger parts would be all..

And I didn't skill as much as you thought.. I never got to autofap.
Like I said I was mostly a miner so by the time I unlocked RDA/combat sense (unsure) is when they nerfed it so I wasn't that high... going from where i am now is dedicated hunting and spending some of my profits on skills.
and like I said below my skill doesn't calculate into that (35,000 profit)


Did you count your total value to come to the total sum of $35k?
No That is just profit not including my equipment *like I said above the 35,000 is Profit it wasn't from inflation, My gear is from depositing and getting the occasional good item.
35,000 is pure profit without equipment value.

I still wonder if you would have started now, and play 5 year you would have got the same, I think not! Your achievements from the past 5 years where made because of those versions and not the current one. Those items you looted back then wont ever drop again.

Yes but new items are dropping today That DIDN'T exist 5 years ago!
Your thinking in the past.. To make a profit in real life or in entropia is to be smart and adjust to the current times..
Sure I could of bought 5 billion Hershey candy bar's 20-30 years ago and sold them today and be a millionaire!

Do I whine that it is unfair I didn't get the chance to buy the 5 billion bars?

Sure probably a mod dar will never drop again.. BUT look at all these unlimited Limits dropping.. theres atleast 1 a week. and they go anywhere from 10k to 100k I didn't have that back then If I looted a good item back then it'd be worth 1-4k MAX with the occasional extremely once in a blue moon item worth 10-100k

Even if you happend to loot an IMK2 5 years ago it was only worth 20k
A T10 UL goes for more than that TODAY!!


So today is just as fair as it was 5 years ago. I garuntee you if I loot like a for example T10 Unlimited It'll probably be a huge profit in 5 years.. but right now its worth what it is. and if I kept it for for 5 years then sold it well gall darn then that'd be inflation profit and someone in 5 years would complain to me saying I started 5 year's ago and T10 UL's don't drop anymore!
Just as your complaining to me right now..

I say - good for those who made it. I feel glad for them.

I say - you can make some $$ in EU (sweating, reselling...) but this is all pocket money. I for example - started with 100$ depo, resold and had some LUCK - i cashed out with 2000$ (whish paid for my central home heating instalation) + I have an avatar worh about 1.5k$ to have fun.
I wouldnt really call that something i can support my family with - but i had some fun and cashed out a bit.



Exactly you had fun playing and made money at it.. If you spent more time trying to make money and having less fun you could have alot more.. not enough to support a family but alot more..
And anyone who has a family knows a game isn't a viable way to support a family.
They never said support a family.. They said go on a hunt and maybe go out and buy a pizza which is entirely true.. all it takes is a 100 ped profit on a hunt to go buy a pizza and a 100ped profit isn't super godly rare.

Comment to Da Dragon:
we are tlaking poor innocent kids - the ones who see EU and say wow... not the ones who looted Mod Anything and sold it for 75k PED to bump start their career. Gratz to your success tho - glad you put it into good use - and not cars and hookers :D


I have to disagree with you there though.. Its not poor innocent kids..
How many kids do you see reading the wall street journal? or watching the 6 o'clock news?
The article is aimed towards adult's they used me because if a teen can do it anyone can basicly is what it means.
And any teen or adult's (smart ones) know that its not easy money.


Let me ask you this... Did you seriously when you were signing for an account you were thinking wow I can make free easy money.. or were you skeptical and knew that there is no such thing as *Free money*
Money takes time and work in real life and ingame.
I even stated that almost exactly in an interview with a newspaper a year or so ago.. If you wanna look it up.

And for a teen if they can invest the time Like I said above, this year I've been making 3-5k peds a month.. That's plenty for a teen to live off of.

But being realisticly they won't have my gear and such won't make that much at all but I'm investing 4 hours if they invested a 5 day 8 hour a day job at mcdonald's if they put that 8 hours a day into Entropia (twice as much as me) with a bit of patience they could make (close) as if spending 8 hours at mcdonalds. Yet they have the freedom to skip a day and do it on there own schedule.
It might take a bit of investment.
All it'd take is a 50-300$ investment to do some profit making and that'd only be one paycheck at mcdonald's..
I know some who started last year and haven't deposited and there characters are averaging 500-1k~$
now if they had a 300$ headstart do you not think in a year they could of turned it into a 3-5k$? if they can turn 0 into 500-1k$?

and I worked at walmart for a year.. I made 5000$~ roughly after tax
If I invested that 8 hours of time into the game I could of made more than 5000$ I think.


Just my opinion.


ps: and thanks It was hard resisting those hooker's and car's.. But I had to keep telling myself.. College is more important xD
 
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Bullshit :wise:
The buyout was set to 1 million, doesn't matter how much more than that people say they offered. Now if Ben could prove he had 1 mil on his account and made the bid before ND did, then, and only then, would he have a claim. Fact is, he cant prove that.

Way off-topic in any case.

I said "he claims" - not going into discussion there. And IF its true.
With all conspiracy theories there is a plausable explanation on both ends.

Nope. Almost every high-end item in the game has made profits for multiple people. Each time it gets sold on it makes a profit for someone else (in theory anyway, obviously I dont have the actual figures for these sales). Only the people holding them currently are yet to make a profit. Maybe Warz will struggle to sell his FAP for more than 420k, who knows, but at least 2 people have made profit on that FAP already (Stryker and whoever he bought it off).

Hermm :scratch2: - afaik - every single cent someone profits - someone has to deposit (and lose). Plus MA takes their share. Or do you really think those ores exist in the ground and mobs carry loot they earned flipping burgers in free time you didnt hunt them.

Once EU is shut down and TT value is paid out to all players - that is the value you have. And it will certainly be less than ppl deposited over years.
Not saying nothing this will happen soon or giving domsday notices - could be tomorrow or in 10 yrs - whenever board of directors decides.

Not to complicate:
TOTAL WITHDRAW AMOUNT < TOTAL DEPOSIT AMOUNT
conclusion: SOMEONE LOST MONEY (or will lose sooner or later)

No, were not talking poor innocent kids, were talking grown-ups who are responsible for their own lives and their own wallets. I dont want to be treated like a child thanks very much, and I appreciate the fact that MA doesnt (well not too much).

Wow - dont take it personally man... :lol:

It thaught summer job ment highschool kids or smth. I didnt know grown up working ppl take summer jobs - but if you say so. I obviously werent paying attention. Sorry

P.S.

Coledge is really more important - thank heavens its almost free in Croatia. (i pay $300 / semester)
 
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Igorl : Read up a little (investment/profit/loss, that sort of thing)

Warz hasn't lost his 420k PEDS ... ;)
 
They dont, they havent, they wont do in the future. Stop with the fucking lying!

All anyone has ever said is ... its possible to have fun and make some money at the same time .. and you know what? It is. :yay:

Have you even looked at the 2 news videos and the threads that I posted the links to?

I have no idea what the people at MA intended, but we all told them that this is how it would come out and sure enough, it did.
 
this is like every investment in the world it's only worth something when you sell it.....

Some investments give dividends. I would prefer that ;)

at least with EU it's worth SOMETHING in other games it's illigal to be worth something.

True, but it would be a bitter-tasting profit in my mind: you are either chipping out for good becasue you aren't playing any more or gutting your avatar becasue you have to to survive.

To me this is just the ultimate refund when you decide to leave. For those who can't *wait* to get out, I'm sure it is quite welcome, though ;)
 
Ah I was right in my supsicions work was blocking all the video links (and om those pages are cluttered do these media stations not hire design editors :scratch2:)

:swoon: John Bates is soooo dreamy :swoon:
 
Warz hasn't lost his 420k PEDS ... ;)


Everything is worth what its purchaser is willing to pay for.

MA says - full TT mod FAP is worth US$ 32 to them (i think or something like that).
Everything else is question of someone raising second mortgage to get it...

That is the fact and I dont like to speculate good / bad investments since i consider EU a game... and title of this post was - summer jobs for kids a.f.a.i.k.

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Everything is worth what its purchaser is willing to pay for.

MA says - full TT mod FAP is worth US$ 32 to them (i think or something like that).
Everything else is question of someone raising second mortgage to get it...

That is the fact and I dont like to speculate good / bad investments since i consider EU a game... and title of this post was - summer jobs for kids a.f.a.i.k.

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yea turned into a nice tangent didn't it lol
 
...has anyone found more similar articles?


darri
:)
 
I only found an article about a guy named djarro, who had always profit, especially when everyone else profits, he even profits more. :laugh:


And that would be considered as BS, lol

Its always nice to boast about something that isnt for sure to the other players. how can you prove it ??????? how can you disprove it ????

You cant, so i have always profit.. too.... just like you.

:bs:

99% of the guys who has profit it is due to, inflation , skillnerve, itamzzz that arent lootable anymore, so ... inflation. The rest is just crapping out of their mouth.

Dont -rep me for beeing right, just -rep me becuz noone believes you anymore.

Its not a shame you just profit from the inflation, and the nerves, we all understand it is better to be the better, thougher and faster boy on the playground. Some are irl, some have to "work" for it.
 
I only found an article about a guy named djarro, who had always profit, especially when everyone else profits, he even profits more. :laugh:


And that would be considered as BS, lol

Its always nice to boast about something that isnt for sure to the other players. how can you prove it ??????? how can you disprove it ????

You cant, so i have always profit.. too.... just like you.

:bs:

99% of the guys who has profit it is due to, inflation , skillnerve, itamzzz that arent lootable anymore, so ... inflation. The rest is just crapping out of their mouth.

Dont -rep me for beeing right, just -rep me becuz noone believes you anymore.

Its not a shame you just profit from the inflation, and the nerves, we all understand it is better to be the better, thougher and faster boy on the playground. Some are irl, some have to "work" for it.

I have to Disagree with you there. I'm not gonna neg rep you cause you are neither right nor right about people not believing.
All you have to use is common sense.

Since you can't disprove it or prove it how do you know your 99% right?
The Longer you are in the game the better you understand it, Take my society for example or any other top 10 society.
Most in my society hunt 1-3k peds a day every day almost if not every other.
Do you really think their being supported by selling there items from 5 years ago to stay in the profit? How come all the people who have these *inflation items* you speak of. Still have it and without depositing haven't sold it. Wouldn't they have run out of ped's by now? They are hunting 1-3k ped a day and profiting from the hunt. (not getting 1k ped's a day from inflation) which is unrealistic.

How come I've taken out 3 time as much as I put in yet I still have ALL My equipment that I had 2 years ago before I withdrew any.
Profiting from playing is real. You just got to know how to do it.
And if you don't believe its real you will never try and your doomed to losing money in this game. It what seperate's profiting people from the losing people.
And I'm gonna stop you right there, before you come back saying: they have all the *undroppable* items)) It doesn't take an uber or uber items to profit.

Take Andie for example: 99% miner uses korss 400's when she use to hunt a little bit more she could pull in 300-1k ped every couple of weeks to month with a KORSS!
And that wasn't spending much maybe 200-500 ped / day.
She didn't have any special skill at the time. Most of her skills were just from occasionally killing thing's while she mines.
She had a ek2600 korss 400 and kobold armor.. Easily purchased by about 90% of the people in the game.

Don't discourage others saying they can never profit cause it isn't true if you make them believe they can't profit they won't.
Cause they won't go that extra mile trying, they have to believe it and try for it to work.

My 2pec ;)
 
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I find it funny that there are people that choose to argue with those that have proven to be successful. Not only just in the game, but in real life as well.

Instead of arguing with these people and trying to prove them wrong, perhaps you should be trying to gain knowledge from them and understand what it is that made them successful. Take that knowledge and emulate it, and if you happen to see opportunity to change that system to make it better for yourself, then do it.

If a successful person tells you "that's NOT how I made money", perhaps you should take note...
 
If you play the game just to make a profit, then you've substantially raised your chances for disappointment. People can't come in thinking they're going to get rich and then get mad at MA when that doesn't happen. "I'm mad because I deposited $5k in this game that was supposed to make me rich and lost it all and now I can't pay my mortgage." Well, look at it this way: you have gained experience in your dee dee dee skill. No one blames the casino that hosts the Hold 'Em tourneys if they don't win the jackpot. Seriously. Why do so many people cry about losing money or not profiting??? It's a game with a chance to make a bit of profit. If you don't like it, then choose a door and promptly exit. Good grief.
 
...still good articles, take a read! ;)
 
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