Wow! Did you just necro-quote me?
Indeed!
Actually quite fascinating. We are all aware there has been a lull in pirate activity, so what better way to keep the "drama" flowing, than a bit a pot stirring!
However, to be honest, stirring a pot that's over a year old is utter tactless and disgustingly bad taste! Quite literally! yuk!
There was a very good reason i left Mandies Team. Seeing that JBK was mainly interested in his own skilling and his own forthcoming and therefore didnt notice that other Players who were loyal to him had to take disadvantages. Fair Play and respect to each other really looks different. Sorry to say.
How do you call such a behaviour? Ohhh right ... SELFISH !.
Good heavens dear Phoenixx, I had absolutely no idea you have been feeling so down trodden. I really do hope for your own sake that this is a just a down time you are going through and soon things will be better.
I remember 100% the day you were upset, and decided EU was no longer for you. I would wish to preserve your own integrity, however your Necro attack here on a ship you once called home, is utterly disgraceful.
Suffice to say I was disheatered to hear that
you felt you had been ignored when you tried to converse in force chat late one skilling session. It is unfortunate that not all nuggets of conversation are engaged upon, however that is true of real life also.
I truly am sorry you had been quite upset by having felt " ignored" in force chat. If I had seen your chat, I would have merrily join in for sure.
However, each man is entitle to his own ego, and if this effected yours then so be it. I had thought a lot more of you, and respected you as a commerade. I had hoped such an incident would have been water off a ducks back, that was my fault on assumption.
Since you have now carried this burden for so very long, I can only presume that it has either severly effected your day to day life over the past 12 months since the incident, or your have been spurred on by some kind of weird propagana or nay saying efforts.
I had sincerely hoped such drama, pot stirring and rumours were a thing of the playground, and EU spaces past, but here she raises her ugly head once again.
My dear Pheonixx (with 2 x's!) I commend you to speak with me, if only to relinquish this negativity you have held undoubtedly for so long. Its neither healthy or helpful to ones way of life.
I am available , as you well know - here, in game, or on skype for a chat any time.
And .. i forgot. JBK did the same when Narfi wanted to establish his own space Business - not with a Kos but he really was upset that someone new jumped into "his" Business.
*cringe* Oh Phoenixx, please bear in mind that all of what you had said in the years gone by of Narfi is logged and accessible. Please please please for your own peace, be aware of your past bad mouthing, and how it effects your future. This is only my advice, ignore and dismiss as you please, but I abhor those who talk so badly of one group in the past, only to use this as a defence in the future.
On that note, Narfi is not daft ( as we would say in Scotland). He is very much aware of his venture, his business acumen and how space works. Do see below, his post just a few above you;
There are a lot of politics involved.
- There are pirates: People who shoot and loot ships in pvp space = A legitimate aspect of the game.
- There are dishonest pirates: People who trick others into a lootable area of space through one way or another in order to loot them. (false transport services, unsolicited summoning, etc....)
- There are scammers: People who gain the trust of others in order to 'borrow'(steal) their peds and items.
People that do not like the concept of pvp space will classify all 3 as 'Scammers'
Unfortunately this has provided a 'defense' for the actual scammers and dishonest pirates. When accused of scamming they will say, "Piracy is allowed by the game, it is a legal aspect of the game"
No one can legitimately argue with that, and so for a weak mind the argument is over. This is wrong though because they have twisted and avoided the root of the issue which is that they actually are scammers which is NOT an aspect of the game, or dishonest pirates which is a questionably (dark) grey area of the game.
I can see that your forum account is very new Phoenixx ( welcome!) but please do read the threads in which you post
You'll have to better explain the bit about JBK being interested in his own skilling and the disadvantages of others.
That Damn JBK! Should give all his skills to us!
Sorry i dont know what "necro-quote" means.
Evidently,
And why should you be bothered?
Dusk has more right to an opinion on this than many. He can can answer your question.
Dusk was there the night you claim JBK was being "selfish".
That night when Slay ( the pilot) was skilling hard, Dusk ( another pilot) also got many % on his level. Not to mention the repair crew who were quite literally lapping up the skills. Unfortunately the gunners are often the ones who lose the most. As was the case that evening. Please do not feel hard done by, you only missed 50% tt returns.
This happened the day slay had his mob train record. That was the mainreason i left Mandie! We (the rest of the team) did all the work and he and bonnie got the skills. We were not even mentioned as team member in the video nor the post here on PCF - and THAT is real selfish. For me a reason to look at another place maybe with ppl who are as fair and loyal to me as i am to them.
Your ideology here is backwards my dear. You mention that it was Slays record, yet John and I got the skills. Quite the contrary. John and I shot the mobs down(50% returns), but the skills were all the pilots ( John and I excluded).
And as detailed above, this is both contrary and similar to the reason you told us why you left. The lack of skilling opportunities on Normandie is ludicrous, our team have access to an unlimited supply of the quickest skill gains in space possible - however I can see now how you had been hurt by someone not replying to your message in force chat, and so dearly hope you may see that there was no harm meant.
Dusk note it here much more straight than I
As for JBK getting all the skills, that's laughable. You got skills as well. Repairing skills. Sure, at the cost of RK5 or RK20 devices plus welding wire. JBK had to pay for a mothership and upgrades to get his..
I am however, truly sorry in that I didn't do a credits list on the video. I would have surely loved to list all of our wonderful crew, however my video skills at that time were, well... lacking! I had hoped the team list would have been enough, however I can empathise if you were feeling particularly sensitive or left out at that point. For that, I apologise.
As JBK mentioned. Our dedicated crew reap the entire skill benefit of our ship. By being dedicated to Mandie, they in turn receive the skill benefit she has to offer. JBK alone, see's a very small proportion of these in fairness, he often will not skill pilot at all, in order for his crew to reap that reward - FACT.
if i ever see the Normandie or the ark royal shooting at somebody without any reason you can be sure there will be a report to MA because of acting against the ToU. PvP or not ...
I wish you much success in your endeavour, but I would also so very love to help you decipher the ToU.
lol sounds like ya got some hate for him
Indeed.
I dont know the story so I could really not find myself in a position to have a strong opinion.
100% agree