today born the SSM(Sweat Sellers Moviment)!!!!!! Sweat sellers, hear me!!!!

[akruz]

SSM is the Sweat Sellers Moviment, the objective is to in the start stabilze the sweat prize, so it dont fall anymore, then, raise the price to at least 1.5...
In the past, sweat cost 3.0, but the time change it, the buyers whant more cheap sweat and that what the sweaters do, and the the prices falls... Nowdays, sweating is for all, yes! But sweating is a time cosumting, tedious and hard work... Why they buy if then can sweat thenselfs? that is simple, they dont have more time for this, they can wyn more money in the time they sweat, as a sweater you now that take hours and hours to take a good quant. of sweat, that why we cant lower the prices!!!!! no more opression!!!!! they know that the noobs are deseparet for money and, with the low fall tatic a newarriver just thiks that the actual price its the true price... Sweaters brothers we have to unit, we have to unit in the SSM!!!!!!! no more sweaters will sell less than 1.0, start it now!!! tell to your friends, tell in the T.Ps move more sweaters!!!!!! They are not buying now, but they are doing it to obrigate we do lower the prices!! Dont it!!!!! if all sweaters dont sell less than 1.0, so they will have only two options, buy or sweat thenselfs... They will quickly need that sweat because they will qiuckly spen their mindforce (for that dont who know, sweat is used to make mindescence) SWEAT BROTHERS... UNIT!!!! OHAY SSM o/!!!!

 

[Vedder]

Please do a search.. There has been LOTS of threads like this in the past.

 

[Hardicus]

Erm...good luck with that.

(I wouldn't buy sweat at 1.5 in any situation).

 

[akruz]

well, is like the life works... someday a moviment will work, i starting a new other, is just this... SSM!!!!!! and for now, we whant just to stay with the 1.0 to 1.2 price

 

[Mossemeez]

I`ve seen lot of sweat union activists in a 2 years, i play....they all gone and sweat price always follow the market. If it hard to get, price raise and if it lot on market, pricees drop.
So, GL on your moviment


PS: 2 years ago, sweat price was 1-1,2pec and if i worked hard 5-6hours, i got max 1k sweat per day...now i get 600per hour. Now think about it!

 

[Hardicus]

Put it this way: Nexus is limited, sweat is not.

Hence, the price of sweat will always suffer from the effects before Nexus does.

 

[SsteLiosS]

dont tell me

all the uber now are afraid and dont know what to do
hahaha
be serius
here it is capitalism and do you know what it means?
if you need money you will sell ... remember that.... else just deposit
its not so simple to get better price

 

[Snuggins]

Good luck with that...

Hey, while you are at, why don't you magically control dung prices up to 3 PED per piece? I have a load of it in storage I would love to sell.

 

[SODERD]

hope they take away the value of sweat totaly!
force everyone to deposit!

a thought from someone who is depositing and loosingpeds to non depositors.

 

[Moonbiter]

Where is option "I don't care"?

 

[Ardorj]

I miss the "I don't know / I don't care" option

 

[akruz]

well, but i know that tatic, people say to me that on past times sweat have higer prices... and just have falled all this years, the tatic used is simple, you lower the pice a litlle... 0.1 for example, and then, you lower it again, and dont see any market law here, i see just i old market tatic to get the price higer or lower... small changes dont are really noted, and is to simple, you think that sweat dont have this value? so go and sweat yourself, but this is not much intellingent you know? cause in the time you are sweating, you cam gain the money that pay the price and can get extra money, you all know that sweat is not a very profitable profession... the point is itt, not satisfact with the price? so why you dont go and sweat yourself?

 

[akruz]

i dont know how edit a poll lol

 

[Hardicus]

well, but i know that tatic, people say to me that on past times sweat have higer prices... and just have falled all this years, the tatic used is simple, you lower the pice a litlle... 0.1 for example, and then, you lower it again, and dont see any market law here, i see just i old market tatic to get the price higer or lower... small changes dont are really noted, and is to simple, you think that sweat dont have this value? so go and sweat yourself, but this is not much intellingent you know? cause in the time you are sweating, you cam gain the money that pay the price and can get extra money, you all know that sweat is not a very profitable profession... the point is itt, not satisfact with the price? so why you dont go and sweat yourself?

Lol, you think you can make more money using MF or hunting than you can with sweating? Do you even know how useless MF is?

Let me put this in simple terms - Sweating is THE ONLY guaranteed way to gain income in this game, so don't complain

edit - Oh yeah and the only reason sweat prices were up at 3.0 was because it was so much harder to sweat. Now it's easy and everyone can do it. If the price of sweat were to go up to 1.5 again, all but the most rich MF users would sweat for themselves, so I think having the prices at 1.0 means that you at least have a chance of selling it.

 

[Witte]

IMO sweat price should be about 0.1 pec per bottle and nexus about 110% so the total ME price can be around 120%. The ME could finaly become usefull for stuff like healing, nb and fs. Simple way for MA to do this is to increase amount of bottle you gather in each succes by factor 10.

 

[Ardorj]

Lol, you think you can make more money using MF or hunting than you can with sweating? Do you even know how useless MF is?

Let me put this in simple terms - Sweating is THE ONLY guaranteed way to gain income in this game, so don't complain

edit - Oh yeah and the only reason sweat prices were up at 3.0 was because it was so much harder to sweat. Now it's easy and everyone can do it. If the price of sweat were to go up to 1.5 again, all but the most rich MF users would sweat for themselves, so I think having the prices at 1.0 means that you at least have a chance of selling it.

Right. When I started playing (and sweating) the price of sweat was around 2.5 and steadily dropping. At the end of my sweatingtime there were people calling us not to sell below 1.5. Why this is, is very simple: supply and demand. When I sweated the max amount of bottles one could get was 5. The average was somewhere around 2. Combined with the sweatcap (you couldn't sweat anymore after ~lvl 150), the supply was low(er). Low supply vs high demand means high prices. Today the supply is high and the demand just a little higher.

The two possible ways of price manipulation are not likely to succeed. Asking MA to replace the sweatcap may very well get you zero response. Encouracing pleople to use mindforce is likely to have the same effect.

Note #1: I started shortly after the Treasure Island sale, which got a lot of new players.
Note #2: The max amount of sweat you could gather was ~5000, now it is infinite.

 

[Leandro Kun]

well, but i know that tatic, people say to me that on past times sweat have higer prices... and just have falled all this years, the tatic used is simple, you lower the pice a litlle... 0.1 for example, and then, you lower it again, and dont see any market law here, i see just i old market tatic to get the price higer or lower... small changes dont are really noted, and is to simple, you think that sweat dont have this value? so go and sweat yourself, but this is not much intellingent you know? cause in the time you are sweating, you cam gain the money that pay the price and can get extra money, you all know that sweat is not a very profitable profession... the point is itt, not satisfact with the price? so why you dont go and sweat yourself?

Gathering Sweat isn’t meant to be fun or highly profitable. MA want your money, they don’t want you to have a free cash cow your entire EU life.

Now that the cap has gone, a lot of players ARE doing there own sweating. It gives you skills and relives boredom near the end of the month

Unfortunately ‘movements’ like this will just get the backs up of depositors. We don’t mind that you don’t deposit, just don’t moan about the free peds you get not being enough!

 

[steffel]

IMO sweat price should be about 0.1 pec per bottle and nexus about 110% so the total ME price can be around 120%. The ME could finaly become usefull for stuff like healing, nb and fs. Simple way for MA to do this is to increase amount of bottle you gather in each succes by factor 10.

exactly what i think. cheaper ME = more use of MF. cheaper sweat, but more bottles per success or less fails in general

 

[Faustian]

I honestly don't see why anyone buys sweat sense the cap was lifted. I get all my sweat my self. I can go to a nice snable young area, potent focus chip, fap 5, 1x0 axe or my trusty m2201. In an hour I can get 500 sweat easily. Then I head over to pvp3 area and mine my own nexus. So you can charge 1 ped a bottle for all I care

- Happy Sweating

 

[Kosh]

I am sorry, but what you or anyone thinks about the price of sweat is not really relevant.
The price is determined in a free market, the supply of sweat is constantly growing so the prices will drop.
The only one who can change it is MA (by changing the system), if they want and I dont think they have reason to want such a change.
No form of union can change the price in any way.

You dont want to sell for those prices?... dont, others will.
Dont like it? Start depositing, trading or think of other inovative ways to fund your ingame activities.

IMHO you are wasting your time.

 

[CycoKick]

well, but i know that tatic, people say to me that on past times sweat have higer prices... and just have falled all this years, the tatic used is simple, you lower the pice a litlle... 0.1 for example, and then, you lower it again, and dont see any market law here, i see just i old market tatic to get the price higer or lower... small changes dont are really noted, and is to simple, you think that sweat dont have this value? so go and sweat yourself, but this is not much intellingent you know? cause in the time you are sweating, you cam gain the money that pay the price and can get extra money, you all know that sweat is not a very profitable profession... the point is itt, not satisfact with the price? so why you dont go and sweat yourself?

ROFL u think we make money in that time, Nope we spent it most of the times, as we wanna have fun.

Btw u lucky, when i was a U could get max 3 sweat per pull and that went slow, u would have to sweat for like 7 hours to get 1 k sweat, And u would reach a cap, and u could not gather as much sweat as the skill went up faster,.

Alot of reasons why sweat was expensiver. Anyway, good luck and I hope u get a mental disorderer sweating

 

[Mkdesign]

Personally, I won't screw you more (others has done it finely for now )

I will simply add that yes, much more sweat and nexus, and Mindforce would become attractive.

The idea of upgrading sweat drop would be best-suited, aswell as nexus.

Heck, who would want to heal with a chip that takes 8 hours to load, and requires bubbles to work if you're hit, and costs a lot? I seriously don't see the point.

P.S.: I sometime go to PA and buy 2000~ sweat for 1.1 just to make some newbies happy with a little search and trade game

 

[kcjeeper]

I know you noobs want to control the market like all good socialists/communists but as long as MA leaves it an open market supply and demand will determine price.

Good luck in your endeavor. I have many thousands of swet in storage so when the price goes up I'll make some money. Not holding my breath though.

 

[Alice]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
another sweat price it low thread

well, even if i haven't been that long around, i saw several attempts of this too
good luck with it

ps1
bump
ps2, nice ava, i love NGE

 

[Naifas Anaconda]

well, but i know that tatic, people say to me that on past times sweat have higer prices... and just have falled all this years, the tatic used is simple, you lower the pice a litlle... 0.1 for example, and then, you lower it again, and dont see any market law here, i see just i old market tatic to get the price higer or lower... small changes dont are really noted, and is to simple, you think that sweat dont have this value? so go and sweat yourself, but this is not much intellingent you know? cause in the time you are sweating, you cam gain the money that pay the price and can get extra money, you all know that sweat is not a very profitable profession... the point is itt, not satisfact with the price? so why you dont go and sweat yourself?

You're so wrong... sweat is one of the few activities ingame where you are garanteed to make profit. For the rest of the activies, there are absolutly none, and it is most likely you'll end up loosing peds.
So my opinion is everyone should try to lower it to, let's say.. 0.5 or less, lol, afterall, the hard part in all of this ME business is gathering nexus! And with that I don't mean that nexus should rise in price of course...

 

[Franklon]

0.5pec or 1.5pec doesn't really matter to me. Using ME (TP and other activities) are considered luxury to me. However, if the price climbs too high, I'll just sweat myself.

 

[akruz]

i say a objectvy, if i get i dont know, but i thibk that the sweat price less than 1.0 its to much low, sweat is just profitable because we have people to buy, if the price is 0.5, so will no more be profitable.

 

[Ardorj]

i say a objectvy, if i get i dont know, but i thibk that the sweat price less than 1.0 its to much low, sweat is just profitable because we have people to buy, if the price is 0.5, so will no more be profitable.

Sweating will always be profitable. No matter how low the price is, because there is no cost for sweating (unlike every other proffession in this game) you will have a guaranteed profit. It may be vey low, yet a profit it is.
There may be only one reason why sweat won't be profitable anymore: when there isn't anyone to buy it.

 

[ano]

I know you noobs want to control the market like all good socialists/communists

LOL - because insider dealing/artificial market control doesn't happen in the 'free' market economy of the western world

To run with that ball a little further, a sweaters' union will never work because no single group 'own the means of production', unlike prior to the skill cap. Anyone can sweat, so if you try and organise into a group that refuses to sell for less than 1.2 you know what i'm going to do? sweat my arse off and sell at 1.0

 

[Dox Amarr]

HEHE! Sweat sellers Movment (SSM) thinks that they are on the top like the workers do. It's no one else than me and Mind Essence Makers (MEM) who controls the market totaly. We are the connection between the Noobs that sweat and the ubers that waste k's of ME every day (amen for that). Any resistance on that will result in a massakre of avetars.

Note for myself: Stop making 15k and go down to making 10k ME every day...