Eomons, Warrants and other

[Kerham]

Last evening I was pm'ed by a friend if I want to join in an Eomon hunt. Well, why not, I do have fun with spiders, globsters or hogglos in team from time to time, so why not add an eomon.

So we went to crater. First I thought is gonna be difficult to tag a mob, so many ubers around, so few mobs, u know, when is low spawn, there's competition.

When we got there, to my hapiness, the spawn was large and growing. M2s/ck were busy, AoW were busy, DR were busy, Warrants busy and still 10 mobs at least free.

So we tagged one and started to happy trigger. Of course, the mobblet being hungry, ran through as all several times. But we did our best, tagged him from the herd and other players and we started tp-shoot-die-tpback, etc.

First I thought we're so noob we die so often, but I saw at revival each time same names from top 10 so nice company to die in same rhytm.

Well, we were doing our best, almost went to half of the mob when the good ppl of Warrants came and ks'ed us.

Now:

- we were NOT in the crater
- they were closer to OTHER mobs
- "our" eomon DID NOT aggroed them (was too busy munching us)

So we had nothing to do than watching Stryker and other guys who gives lessons on forum about the game how they steal the mob.

Until yesterday, I had greatest respect for Skalman and his soc. From now, they're only a bunch of greedy players for me, except Etopia, who's contribution on the forums I still keep in great respect.

After killing it, they said "pay us back the ammo and we'll give u the loot". No, honestly would have been to them pay us the ammo spent initially. Even better would have been to let us at our newb hunt. There were plenty of mobs for them to try.

Of course, nothing can be said in what regards rules of the game, as long as u kill more than half of the mob, u have the loot. But I am no part of mechanics of the game, I am a player, with feelings and stuff.

I read in Skalman's interview that his main focus when he created Warrants was to take revenge on cK. Now they're in same position.

I'm just a newb now, only specialist pistoleer with 123 hp. But things will change in 1 year or in 2 years. And then I'll have Warrants for lunch. Is fun to have an objective in the game and they shown what can be most disgusting in a comunity-related game.

 

[Leafren]

I read in Skalman's interview that his main focus when he created Warrants was to take revenge on cK. Now they're in same position.

I missed (or forget about) this interview Link?

Thanks pretender, interesting passages in there

 

[Pretender]

I missed (or forget about) this interview Link?

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8768

 

[Dom_sufc]

Disgusting behaviour.

Over my short time of my life on this forum, I've come to repect your word, Kerham (from your old account lol), and so I believe what you have said above.

I think also alot of peeopl have automatic respect for high skilled societies, due to their status, and knowlegde, and of course skills ect. So for a top-soc to commit this unethical act of greediness, is all most like a celebrity commiting a crime.

Warrants now have a different rank In my personal book of respect that to what they had before.

This excluding Etopia or course, because for the reasons you stated. I feel she has made a great contribution on this forum In many ways. Pity about her soc mates. Or at least the ones that were In the team.

And I do realise that this Is a completely legal thing to do In-game, but It Is widely known to be an act of greediness.

I look forward to see what the warrants In that team have to say about this.

 

[demoniac]

Well, we were doing our best, almost went to half of the mob when the good ppl of Warrants came and ks'ed us.

Can't say I'm surprised really.
To some socs it is their idea of fun and all part of the role-playing. Do people respect and fear them because of it or do they pity them?

 

[Lugzan]

oh, the greedness

yeah, they must have run out of ideas how to fill their pockets with ped and the community with luv. so, it's an easy decision. as there is no way to make it win-to-win, let's make it we win

hmmm, are the players in those soc really as teenagers as some around to act like that? and wasn't it against EULA to not letting other players to do whatever they do in a normal way? well, maybe someone that participated in it could give a little explanation by answering here?


J.

 

[Dom_sufc]

Can't say I'm surprised really.
To some socs it is their idea of fun and all part of the role-playing. Do people respect and fear them because of it or do they pity them?

Well, pity them. If their Idea of fun Is to piss other people off, and make them loose time & money just to be "virtually" feared, then they have serious Issues In themselves... especially seen as It's In a virtual world.

 

[Ter]

Thanks for calling me and other Warants greedy players when we wern't even there good call.......

 

[Lugzan]

Thanks for calling me and other Warants greedy players when we wern't even there good call.......

so the thread starter has the ball now to clear this part up?


J.

 

[Pretender]

oh, the greedness

yeah, they must have run out of ideas how to fill their pockets with ped and the community with luv. so, it's an easy decision. as there is no way to make it win-to-win, let's make it we win

hmmm, are the players in those soc really as teenagers as some around to act like that? and wasn't it against EULA to not letting other players to do whatever they do in a normal way? well, maybe someone that participated in it could give a little explanation by answering here?


J.

thats a bit of generalizing isnt it?

i mean, besides being one, i know for example alot of people are teenagers (f.ex. Recoda, and im sure he isnt...well, like you think teenies are) so i dont like this generalizing bit one bit.

 

[demoniac]

Thanks for calling me and other Warants greedy players when we wern't even there good call.......

Well I don't think your name was mentioned but of course it's up to you who you choose to associate with in game.

 

[Lugzan]

thats a bit of generalizing isnt it?

i mean, besides being one, i know for example alot of people are teenagers (f.ex. Recoda) so i dont like this generalizing bit one bit.

yes, generalising is a risky part. I did not mention anyone in particular, just wrote it to emphasize on who acts like that. I suppose it's more well-mannered than calling them lower-than-average IQ/EQ?

P.S. I know some teenagers who just amaze me by acting too much like a very empirical grown-up


J.

 

[manuel]

well i think it's a risk u need to have in mind,

it's like to say in chat all:

wow i found a strange signal it's my first , please don't shoot me !!

 

[Vedder]

Thanks for calling me and other Warants greedy players when we wern't even there good call.......

Well, that's pretty much what societies is about, isn't it?
What you do, will reflect on your socity reputation, and what your soc-mates does will ofc too.

I'm not saying that you are responsible for anything your socmates does, but merely that you, to some degree, share the reputation of your society.
Societies and soc-mates should be chosen with care.

 

[Pretender]

yes, generalising is a risky part. I did not mention anyone in particular, just wrote it to emphasize on who acts like that. I suppose it's more well-mannered than calling them lower-than-average IQ/EQ?

P.S. I know some teenagers who just amaze me by acting too much like a very empirical grown-up


J.

heh, i hope i can be counted in there. just tell me if i am not/are



and i guess its used alot, the teenager comment.
i dont mind, overall...just in some cases



/proud to be 16 and going on 17

 

[Toast]

TBH, if you can't handle the loss don't take the risk hunting it. If this makes the game more fun and interesting for other players, more power to them.

 

[MrSmith]

"When i started out in this game it was alot of players that was known for killstealing and things like that. Also you got hunted by cK's in PvP every day. I decided I wanted to be better, to show them how they would feel if someone did the same to them.

Well if Warants are into kill stealing, you get no respect what so ever from me.
There is enough mobs out there to not kill steal a mob that others have tried their best to kill.

The quoted text are from Skalman's interview.
I guess you failed your mission Skalman, if you where in the team.

 

[Kerham]

Thanks for calling me and other Warants greedy players when we wern't even there good call.......

You're wellcame. Next time slap Stryker and neomaven, they were there, and their team was called Warrants. Didn't wasted time to see how many of Warrants actually were there, but for me, they called themselves Warrants, they represent Warrants.

 

[Pretender]

Well if Warants are into kill stealing, you get no respect what so ever from me.
There is enough mobs out there to not kill steal a mob that others have tried their best to kill.

The quoted text are from Skalman's interview.
I guess you failed your mission Skalman?

Please explain.

i guess being better could also be viewed as bering better at killstealing.

 

[sahel]

It's like you learn that Santa doesn't exist

First days i watched a lot of Eomon slaughtering by the high skilled socs, spontaneous helping out with fapping etc (not in the team but just to help out), having a great time watching people you see as an example take down the might beasts.

Well, kinda sucky to see the same person ks your eomon (Voland called it). Thought they where "high society", well LOL, I see OJ's with more character.
I'm starting to think that Southpark episode is more tru than I ever imagined, really...

And Ter: i didn't see you there, but a lot of your socmembers where. It's nice that you wanna 'protect' them, but get your facts straight first.

Next event i'll be jumping, sweating and pulling mobs then...

Regards,

Sahel

 

[safara]

You're wellcame. Next time slap Stryker and neomaven, they were there, and their team was called Warrants. Didn't wasted time to see how many of Warrants actually were there, but for me, they called themselves Warrants, they represent Warrants.

There are some screenies in the Eamon Dung Thread that shows which Warrants were there.

If the Warrants did do this, then I am suprised. I thought they were better.

 

[Ter]

Kerham anyone can make a team called warants I wasnt there so I will leave it to the guys that were to respond about KS but to say all of us except etopia are greedy is not right as to my knowledge at least 5/6 of us where not even there.
And Demoniac I play the game not just the forums

 

[Kerham]

Kerham anyone can make a team called warants I wasnt there so I will leave it to the guys that were to respond about KS but to say all of us except etopia are greedy is not right as to my knowledge at least 5/6 where not even there.
And Demoniac I play the game not jus the forums

it might not be right. risks of the game, what can i say?

 

[Ter]

You mean the same risk as hunting high end mobs right ?

 

[kygon]

lol the way ppl are reacting over this its as if warants killed someone's puppy.

this type of KS happens at CP ALL THE TIME if I'm in dome4 and die on a hunter most socs and players (im not going to list them) will tag it before I've even revived, its a part of big mob hunting for me, it simply happens.

 

[AkiranBlade]

I had several of these mobs pulled from me when the youngs were spawning and I wasn't even dead!

Quite frankly too much of this is going from all teams/socs.

I'd prefer to see the way mobs can be attacked changed. Something along the lines of if participant A shoots at mob Y then participant B shoots at mob Y participant B is given a yellow message stating the mob is locked for a short time due to being attacked by another player.

This would lock people out from being able to steal mobs from those that are actively killing them.

If the participant A dies or does not attack mob Y for a predefined nominal amount of time, the lock is released ready for the next tagger.

There would also be the >50% rule in effect also.

 

[Kerham]

Yes, there's a risk hunting high-end mobs. But ks is an option, not a mandatory activity (especially when we don't talk about 1-at-a-time-spawned like tantardions). Upon what ppl choose to do in that situation, I choose to base my opinion and feelings about them. I think is clear.

 

[Moser]

Quite rude to KS somones mob. They where fighting it when Warrants arrived and stole it? Or where all dead and the mob not under attack?

 

[Dutchie]

Thanks for calling me and other Warants greedy players when we wern't even there good call.......

No opinion on this specific case, as I was not there.
However generally what a soc member does has an impact on the reputation of his/her soc and therefore indirectly on its other members.

And if a soc member (or members) do something nasty, then the soc should take action. If not, it is your choice to be associated with it, or leave the soc.

(and note again that I have no opinion on this specific case)

 

[kygon]

Quite rude to KS somones mob. They where fighting it when Warrants arrived and stole it? Or where all dead and the mob not under attack?

KSing while someone is shooting it for me is a whole different matter, thats one of the lowest forms of hunting

KSing when the team is dead (sounds that way here) is quite different , its anoying and possibly slightly unethical (and tbh can often be accidental, I've lost count of the mobs I've accidentialy taged at CP)