I am sooo sick of pirates!

[Infeliece]

Greetings all,
Latley I have been doing a lot of planet hoping, spending a lot of time on Rock but always returning to Caly to trade and offload non stackables on the AU there.

Now latley ive noticed a constant Pirate pressence lurking around Caly SS just waiting to shoot down anyone attempting to try to fly out, in fact i was just shot down by two of these 'Champions'(I use that term sarcasticly ), and on asking if they would just shoot me down to see if i had any loot and let me be on my way the only response i got was a 'prehaps...' (i admit i wasnt the most polite discussion ive had in EU, but damn im not talking nicley to thieves).

Now when I first started playing and heard there would be new planets to go to I thought 'What a great idea!', then when I saw u had to pay fee's to transport to them I payed the fee and enjoyed the new planets bringing back all manner of other planet stackables, but now we have this situation where there are all the 'Champion' pirates holding ppl up and decaying space craft it's just annoying the hell out of me and every time I'm in this situation I keep thinking why MA have implemented this system???

Has it helped bring more people in? Does it keep current players interested? Does it Help the Economy?

For me the answers for these questions are -

'Has it helped bring more people in?' - Yeah will bring some new players in but most new players who want to be a pirate are non-low depositers (imho) once they relize the costs involved most will abandon there ideals of being a pirate 'Champion' and the ones that do depo enough to set themselves up and blow up there first few space vechiles and get dung and nova would give up very soon (again imho).

Does it keep current players interested? - When Space first lanched I thought yes, we had a thriving pilot industry due to high prices of quads and thrusters and very few pirates, these days where quads and kismets have dropped in price the pirate 'Champions' have increased and thus when im shot down every time I try to leave Caly it is NOT making me more interested in the game, in fact I often think when waiting at a SS for pirates to log off that maybe I will sell up and quit the game..... IS THIS THE INTENDED EFFECT YOU HAD WHEN CREATING SPACE MA?????

Does it Help the Economy? - In theory Yes as Interplanetery trade is good for all economies. In reality No as I will not take my stackables thru space and thus all my storages on planets are filling up. I Understand there are Motherships to help get stackables thru space but 1/ Mothership flights are not always available or may be to expensive if only taking a few ped worth through 2/ Motherships and Privateers can still be shot down 3/ I own a quad, ive paied for my space travel, i will continuly pay thruster decay why do I have to pay more again???

To End this rant, what I realy would like to see is some like minded people like me who are sick of the pirate 'Champions' and form an aliance, buy some kismets and travel out there in Quad armardas to smash these thieves of space!

'Champions' Indeed!

Well my rant is over

Inf

 

[SUPREME]

I have been dominating Nebula Virus Pirates for the past few weeks... easy targets..... Oh Hi Ernstj, Next time carry loot your camping outside rocktropia

 

[Corey 'Greyfox']

Subbing
(too short)

 

[Aeris_is_back]

You just love to be the victom.

 

[rastamannen]

Well flights with motherships are both safe and cheap if u carry loot. There are some MS that are really safe for example Normandie. If u dont carry loot and see that pirates are keeping an eye on you...just go out in PVP and let them shoot u down, but try to avoid as many shots as possible, when theyve shot u down they got nothing and maybe spent 10 peds in ammo. If u try to make it a hard time for them in space pirates will reduce.

 

[John B Knight]

Maybe utilize a secure mothership and safe yourself the hassle

 

[Infeliece]

Agreed Motherships are a great way to carry loot, but as I said they are not always available when I am on (Australian Eastern Standard Time) and not always economicly viable if only carring small ammounts of loot. And yes I can get shot dwon and make pitates waste their ped, but also my quad is losing its tt value which I try to avoid.

Thanks for the reply, I would like to hear from all alike to what they think.

Cheers

Inf

 

[Dusk]

And has already been said, there are scheduled mothership services that will transport you in safety.

Edit, Oops, just seen your post above.

 

[John B Knight]

If subscribing to a mothership serivce with scheduled flights you wouldnt pay for the single flights, you could board the ship in advance of an flight and logout/sleepyou would just need to get on at the scheduled arrival/departure time from your target planet.

There is also lots of aussie gamers traveling often between planets, it can make sense to team up and book a vip flight together maybe even have a regular flight in place to save peds.
If like you said you liked to pay the 45ped TP fee before space then there should actually be lots of affordable flight opportunities out there for you.

 

[chances]

-Chances

 

[Infeliece]

Thx for the advice John, I have traveled with you on the Normandie before and found it to be great and you provide a great service, I will look at MS subscriptions and see if it fits in the budget.

Cheers

Inf

 

[chances]

Your friend Chances

 

[chances]

Mod's just approved my original post here... Derp

 

[Kri]

Give a shout to Sakuba (MS Bismarck) he's in the same timezone as you!

 

[Smoerble]

Don't forget: there are way more spaceships that can survive than the three biggest motherships (Normandie, Kronan, Bismarck).
Many Privateers are already upgraded with SIs that are big enough to withstand attacks from several pirates at a time, first of all, but not only my own: Privateer (add me via player roster if interested ).

So if someone wants to do planet hoping, I recommend to find a ship that can do what you need at a price that you can live with.

If you don't want to spend money, you cannot expect to travel safe. Remember: this is EU, not a friendly environment .

 

[Doer]

Don't forget: there are way more spaceships that can survive than the three biggest motherships (Normandie, Kronan, Bismarck).
Many Privateers are already upgraded with SIs that are big enough to withstand attacks from several pirates at a time, first of all, but not only my own: Privateer (add me via player roster if interested ).

So if someone wants to do planet hoping, I recommend to find a ship that can do what you need at a price that you can live with.

If you don't want to spend money, you cannot expect to travel safe. Remember: this is EU, not a friendly environment .

I don't think Privateers are any help with this particular problem, because the pirates don't need to and for all i know don't really spend time camping the "vast" interplanetary space lanes... why would they when everyone but those flying out of a MS must make that last hop down to the planet from the space stations?

 

[John B Knight]

Don't forget: there are way more spaceships that can survive than the three biggest motherships (Normandie, Kronan, Bismarck).
Many Privateers are already upgraded with SIs that are big enough to withstand attacks from several pirates at a time, first of all, but not only my own: Privateer (add me via player roster if interested ).

So if someone wants to do planet hoping, I recommend to find a ship that can do what you need at a price that you can live with.

If you don't want to spend money, you cannot expect to travel safe. Remember: this is EU, not a friendly environment .

Agreed except in one point - you shouldnt list Bismark as biggest mothership as far as my information goes the current SI ranking beyond strongest spacecrafts is like this (however some info needs updated and is several months old):

Normandie
Dreadnought
Krusenstern
Bjorns privateer
Revenge
Kronan
Kri's privateer
Saratoga
Varyag
Yamato
Ticonderoga
Smoerble's privateer
Thule
Alabama
Gagarin
Bismark
Ark Royal

*following ships uncertain
Fortune
Enterprise
Victory
Perception

 

[jetsina]

Doer: privateers would need a little extra time to escort people to the atmosphere from space stations (if people are trying to avoid the extra cost of about 5 ped per person for a direct TP down to planet), but otherwise they can be crewed (repaired) more easily, so they have their advantages too.

The disadvantage is not being able to leave easily once you go on board, but as an escort you can enter a privateer if you need to, which is a concept of 'safe' that I'm quite happy with if it has enough SI too

(and yes, I mostly fly motherships, which I obviously recommend primarily )

 

[minim]

Nice OP! Good to see that I'm not alone out there.

If we are lucky they see what kinda mistake space is and removes it soon

and SI on ships ... cmon it doesn't mean anything as long as you can log out on them. You are just as safe on a privateer without SI upgrade as on the Normandie if you just log out. And Normandie has still been shot down regardless of that upgraded SI so it's not safe if you don't log out from that one either.

 

[chances]

Nice OP! Good to see that I'm not alone out there.

If we are lucky they see what kinda mistake space is and removes it soon

and SI on ships ... cmon it doesn't mean anything as long as you can log out on them. You are just as safe on a privateer without SI upgrade as on the Normandie if you just log out. And Normandie has still been shot down regardless of that upgraded SI so it's not safe if you don't log out from that one either.

Damn for someone who globals so much you NEVER have any loot

Cant agree more with the SI comment.
If anything the only good point of it is to skill up your spacecraft pilot skills.

See you around

-Chances

 

[John B Knight]

Nice OP! Good to see that I'm not alone out there.

If we are lucky they see what kinda mistake space is and removes it soon

and SI on ships ... cmon it doesn't mean anything as long as you can log out on them. You are just as safe on a privateer without SI upgrade as on the Normandie if you just log out. And Normandie has still been shot down regardless of that upgraded SI so it's not safe if you don't log out from that one either.

Carrying on in this thread now minim ? Thought you left the other to discuss further in pm - looking forward to your reply
Of course every ship in the universe has been shot down sometime, but saying this and that ship got shot down when it had 30k+ less SI then it has now, really doesnt mean much - the difference between flying logged out from the start for the whole flight time and just needing to log out once in over a years time is convenience the feeling of security cause the passenger can see for himself the status of the ship and doesnt fly 'blind', its also about saving peds exspecially like mentioned in the OP's post when it only goes about a few peds then the usage of station TP for 7ped or flying down at the atmosphere can already have major influence on the margin as a trader. Its also about time, cause a ship that can be shot down from a single quad in a matter of seconds can be held for ransom if it needs to perform a flight, whereas doing the same on larger ships doesnt pay off for pirates - this a huge difference in needed flight time if you need to repeat the flight 10 times till you sneak out compared to another ship which makes it on the first departure reliably in most cases.

 

[sakuraqueen]

Damn, how could OP labeled pirates as champion ...should be space monkey or something

 

[chances]

Damn, how could OP labeled pirates as champion ...should be space monkey or something

Ill be your space monkey Sakura

 

[minim]

Carrying on in this thread now minim ? Thought you left the other to discuss further in pm - looking forward to your reply
Of course every ship in the universe has been shot down sometime, but saying this and that ship got shot down when it had 30k+ less SI then it has now, really doesnt mean much - the difference between flying logged out from the start for the whole flight time and just needing to log out once in over a years time is convenience the feeling of security cause the passenger can see for himself the status of the ship and doesnt fly 'blind', its also about saving peds exspecially like mentioned in the OP's post when it only goes about a few peds then the usage of station TP for 7ped or flying down at the atmosphere can already have major influence on the margin as a trader. Its also about time, cause a ship that can be shot down from a single quad in a matter of seconds can be held for ransom if it needs to perform a flight, whereas doing the same on larger ships doesnt pay off for pirates - this a huge difference in needed flight time if you need to repeat the flight 10 times till you sneak out compared to another ship which makes it on the first departure reliably in most cases.

It was just because it was offtopic for that thread. Will reply egen i get home from vacation. Just replying from a phone now.

The logging off part is not the issue.. that takes nothing of my time really. It's all the hassle in space that takes time. Just following scheduled flights takes hours since it stops on all planets. Even a VIP trip there is waiting time on that takes a lot longer than the log out/in part. You guys do a great job with the MS service trying to make space less of a hassle for the players. Just to bad that ma won't improve it further by removing it..

 

[Fifth]

when u have bad hangover there's always someone with a helpful advice to cure the headache by decapitation.

 

[dr3w]

Just to bad that ma won't improve it further by removing it..

Well, if we compare space with soccer - currently it's huge field with one spectator, one goalkeeper and one player. Ball is somewhere. Playing is possible, but damn slow and costly for all.

In other words - we need more players.

 

[sndlwood]

Your complaint is not uncommon, seeing how you are frequently the victim of interplanetary piracy. However, this issue which you and many other space travelers have is based is based upon the false premiss that looting other players in the game (affectionately called piracy when it takes place in space) is a form of thievery. It is not. MA does not support or permit stealing in Entropia, though we know that real theft has occurred on occasion. Acquiring loot by PK'ing other players in lootable areas is not theft. Players who do so are not thieves and players who have been looted have not been robbed, any more than the "loot pool" has been robbed when we receive loot by any other means.

For better or for worse, lootable areas have existed in some form or other since the beginning of Entropia. It is a distinct part of the game and optional only. A player can spend their entire Entropia career and never enter or be at risk of entering a lootable area ever. All of those players who choose to enter lootable areas may be looted or may loot other players as they wish. I repeat, it is the choice of those players who enter the lootable areas to be looted or to loot other players.

I personally love to mine. It's my main profession. I normally do not mine in lootable areas (but I occasionally do) because of the high risk involved in loosing my valuable resources. If you enjoy Entropia, why would you choose to enter any area that was unpleasant for you? Despite the obvious attraction to space and traveling to other planets, there really is no need to do so. Why not pick a planet and settle down?

I realize this is an over-simplified solution to the rants of possibly hundreds of looted players, but your ranting about issues that you have full control over and your hateful labeling of other person who are also trying to enjoy their Entropian experience as thieves is both unfounded and unnecessary.

Have fun and good luck.

 

[RickEngland]

.................. And Normandie has still been shot down regardless of that upgraded SI so it's not safe if you don't log out from that one either.

I can't stop smiling when I read these types of quotes.

Sure I agree nothing is totally secure in space, but its does need to be put into prospective. I am yet to see the pirates attempt another organised full scale attack on a mothership. I would not be surprised if that was a one off attack on Normandie just to see if they could do it. I'm sure if cost the pirates big peds to attempt it.

Now since that first success, John as added tons more SI to Normandie, not to mention if he has a team of repairs on board and gunners, then the pirates would need a fleet of quads to bring it down again.

Personally I can't see that happening, unless the pirates are much more organised, have many more members, or if they are in possession of bigger ships.

Not to mention most pirates are not keen to attack an MS again while the log-out is available, just not worth their investment for the opportunity of little loot.

So I say in conclusion, MS is pretty secure way to travel in space....for now anyway.

Rick

 

[Dr.D.C.]

sadly for you MA want:


-Have freaking pirate system
-Force you to use mother ships
-Force you to fight with pirates
-Reduce as max as possible travel between planets


ofc now the Paladins of Entropia will came to tell you that: no one force you to travel by planets, that you can or not use a mothership, that it s easy to avoid pirates, that space is great, that you sucks etcetcetc
like usual is your fault and not MA fault.

dc

 

[Dusk]

Sure I agree nothing is totally secure in space, but its does need to be put into prospective. I am yet to see the pirates attempt another organised full scale attack on a mothership. I would not be surprised if that was a one off attack on Normandie just to see if they could do it. I'm sure if cost the pirates big peds to attempt it.

Rick

Oh, it did! It did!

You can read about the whole saga here.

Its a hell of a soap opera if you read from start to finish.