Mikass
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Do you think we`ll eventually see these shares auctioned by MA for less than 1k?
Hmm that may be someone who bought a stack of 10 shares but only wants 9 of them (enough for a house) and therefore sells the last one but knew it would be impossible (or next to it) as long as MA ones existed
omfg... the investment is based on the revenue generated by Calypso... so the day this gives 0PED/Month would be the day where noone plays Entropia Universe.That should depend on the roi, the higher ped/month payment the higher the deed value. If it's 0ped/month for a while then people may get jittery and try to sell them. If enough try to sell then the price will surely drop as they compete for the people who are buying - if any.
MA may have to drop their price if they're trying to compete with their own players to sell them. Or they'll just stop selling them until the price rises.
Obviously this whole thread will be entirely useless untill the first payouts start. Then again I have a feeling that MA may be raising the ROI in the beginning with some events like 2x skillgain etc. So it will be useless untill we get a period of "normal" activity. I don't see that happen anytime soon though.
The real test will be when we have more planets online. When planets like Arkadia have be build up a bit more and Cyrene is online more players will be tempted to leave Calypso and play there instead.
I think market price will be decided after the first payments happen ... then you will get an indication of the real ROI. Before that its only guessing ...
...if the ROI falls short below the promised 27% (not 30%) then I see some real pricedrops comming for the deeds.
Ah nah I don't see that as too much of a problem since 20% of the income still go to the planet the account was created at. Right now Calypso is in a HUGE advantage in that regard since from the total of accounts almost all originated there even though many of them may be inactive at the moment.
I bought some Deeds myself but since it's an old story from MA promising and than changing cards on the table, the price on these Deeds can't be extimated now, and maybe it's less risky to invest not all you got in this operation.
Today I would set market value few peds under 1k since players are still buying and selling at 1k costs 38 peds in fee.
So if someone is thinking to buy some have to consider that selling back for few months will mean to lose the fisrt 1-2 months incomes at MA "promised" ROI
I thought it was 25% goes to the original planet you sign up on no matter where you play, 25% goes tot he planet you play on, and 50% goes to MA.
So even if all the current players leave calypso, but keep playing. The roi would still only be cut by half.
its been a while since i went to school, but i remember a few things about shares. One of them is the nominal value of the share itself. In the case of CLD the nominal value seems to be 0.01 peds and thats a good enough reason for me not to buy any of them.
Well as a baseline value MA have established the CLD value at 30% ROI for a revenue share of $1.8 milion or $34.6K per week.
Given a 12 month period, if Calypso achives a ROI of only 23% vs the original amounts (a real terms fall in player based revenue) than the CLD price can fall to 750 Ped and still meet a 30% ROI against this price for new buyers. In addition anyone who sold at that price would after adding their 52 weekly payouts recover 100% of their Ped (i.e 0% ROI for them in those 12 months).
The future CLD price will depend on what buyers want as an ROI for the assessed risk.
If MA have got it wrong and 30% is too low, i.e they should have only tried to raise $3 milion (30 K lots @ 1000Ped) for a 60% expected ROI then the you will see the CLD price drop to 500 Ped within a year for a $1.8 milion revenue share.
If they have overestimated the ROI and stable weekly revenue payouts atract buyers at 15% ROI then for the same $1.8 milion the CLD prices will rise to 2000 Ped.
Add to that weather you think Calypso CLD revenue share will rise or fall over the 12 months from $1.8 milion and you have your answer.