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This is hypothetical paper results...

Look at your gun... equip. your best amp on your gun... Look at your min and max dmg and average the 2... then multiply your shots per min...

My Numbers
min = 78.5
Max = 157...
Average Dmg = 118 (about not including crits 300+ or misses)
X 36 swings a min
-----------------
4248 dmg per min

beat this number and you beat me...

Hypothetical Finals results level 3 (again humor me)
)Burnsey 5429.25 (ULx5 + evil)
)jak 4636.5 (RJ + dante)
)Sooz 4284 (HL15+amp15)
)Poker 4248 (UL nifl)
)CycoKick 4207.5 (x1+dante)
)Hally 3855.75 (Apis485 + dante)
)slupor 3037.5
)steffel 2876 (delta + beast)
)
)


If you would do it in the form
Min dmg=
Max dmg=
Average Dmg = (2 numbers / 2)
X # of uses per min
-------------------
total
also if you want include set up...


this is a good start to see if you have a chance... note : there are many factors... such as mob size... type... availablity... repairs... etc...
 
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don't think you can accurately get results from that..

There too many other factors.. such as how much you pay attention.. you HA, how many runners you have, lag, support gunners etc. etc.

still for an overall picture its a good idea.
 
Ogulak'Da'Dragon said:
don't think you can accurately get results from that..

There too many other factors.. such as how much you pay attention.. you HA, how many runners you have, lag, support gunners etc. etc.

still for an overall picture its a good idea.
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Da, as i stated in the begining... there are many other factors but it is a start to see if you have a chance... and this is all hypothetical...


Side note going along with the thread...
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this is an older picture with my old stats...I am much higher now.... but the weapon is maxed dmg... so you see 78.5 and 157... what are "your" stats for people who are in lvl 3 only please... not what entropedia or any other site...
 
As I said in your other thread, there is a lot more to this event than the actual hunting part. Overall spend and dps is important, yes, but it's not everything.

Someone spending 10k wisely with the help of a support team and efficient strategy will beat someone who spends 30k without a proper plan.
 
Oleg said:
As I said in your other thread, there is a lot more to this event than the actual hunting part. Overall spend and dps is important, yes, but it's not everything.

Someone spending 10k wisely with the help of a support team and efficient strategy will beat someone who spends 30k without a proper plan.
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Correct as i said many times... this isnt an exact science... and if you have a better way to quantify this please show me... these are hypothetical results... this is just a start... some people have dreams of winninig solo etc... and if they cant be this number they dont have a shot... so humor me...
 
Well ill give ya a run for your money ;)

110*51 5610.

And that not using biggest gun I could lay my hands on..
 
CycoKick said:
Well ill give ya a run for your money ;)

110*51 5610.

And that not using biggest gun I could lay my hands on..
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nice :) could you do it in the form of...
Min dmg=
Max dmg=
Average Dmg =
X # of uses per min
-------------------
total

also please dont use elite 50 dmg amp on ur gun... since there isnt enough supply for you to keep this up through out the total 36 hourevent... used your best UL amp...
 
nice :) could you do it in the form of...

Min dmg=55
Max dmg=110
Average Dmg = 82.5
X 51 of uses per min
-------------------
5610
 
Joker said:
so humor me...
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Well OK then :)

I have about 1k PED available on my card and in easily-sold resources from my storage, and I won't be depositing any more before January.

I have no support team, have no intention of hunting itumas for exactly 36 hours, and will only be hunting using my usual eco weapons (mainly T5 or perhaps BL1000 if I'm feeling excitable).

I'll hunt a few itumas and help some friends, and I'll be interested to see how high I can finish with no serious effort (I hope MA will be publishing the full list of scorers like they did last year).

Chance of me getting in the Top 10 - zero :)

Chance of me having a bit of fun, getting some skills, and some experience which might help in Merry Mayhem 2009 - 100% :)
 
CycoKick said:
nice :) could you do it in the form of...

Min dmg=55
Max dmg=110
Average Dmg = 82.5
X 51 of uses per min
-------------------
5610
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X1 + evil = 98.8 dps
nifl = 94.2 dps...

nice man... u got me beat... sad thing is it doesnt seem like much but that 4.6 extra dps really adds up eh :)
 
This is a ranking of all weapons blp amped with dante (at lvl 70 hit, 65dmg), laser amped with A204, ranked according to DPS.
Offcourse some weapons are not realistic, but still your sword is ranked nr 39 ... :eek:

Name Dmg/sec
1 Unique Official MindArk PHG - v.Marco 11307.4
2 Prototype Rocket Launcher XXX (L) 508.2
3 Unique Dub & McCormick Terminator 102.4
4 Unique Roman Ram Purifier prototype 98.7
5 Isis BL1450 (L) 88.5
6 GeoTrek H49 Poros (L) 85.2
7 DOA Strikehammer Improved 83.2
8 DOA Foeripper 81.4
9 Emik X5 80.4
10 Emik X5 (L)
11 Isis CB29 (L) 80.0
12 Isis HL18 78.2
13 Isis HL18 (L)
14 EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified
15 EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient
16 Isis CB28 (L) 76.3
17 Isis BL1300 (L)
18 GeoTrek H33 Uti (L) 73.7
19 GeoTrek H46 Menes (L) 73.1
20 GeoTrek AL29 Felis (L) 72.7
21 DOA Rockjacker Mentor Edition 72.4
22 Geotrek LP525 Geke (L) 72.3
23 DetPil Mamba (L) 71.4
24 DOA Rockjacker 71.2
25 A-3 Justifier Mk.II Modified 71.1
26 Isis LR66 (L) 69.9
27 GeoTrek H30 Illum (L) 69.6
28 Unique Legend War Axe 69.4
29 Eraktor Abomination (L) 68.2
30 Isis HL15 66.0
31 Isis HL15 (L)
32 Omegaton ASG-2 Swine Deluxe
33 Isis LR65 (L) 65.9
34 Skildek Cobra (L) 65.8
35 A-3 Justifier Mk.III Improved 65.8
36 Isis CB26 65.6
37 Isis CB26 (L)
38 Svempa X1 (L) 65.5
39 Genesis Niflheim 65.4
40 Genesis Niflheim (L)
41 Genesis Bifrost (L) 65.2
42 Vumpoor Disintegrator (L) 64.9
43 A-3 Justifier Mk.II Improved Ancient 64.4
44 DOA Strikehammer 64.1
45 Fire Forge DAR 9300 Modified 64.0
 
Yeah it does.

So does hl15+eamp15
and these are cat 2 guns..

But you have a massive advantage in a UL sword with so few repairs. As U wont need to stock a insane ammount of L guns to be able to last long enough.

For this event Ill would need about 12x1´s hl15 users will need much more as mnay arnt full tt..

Same for most guns
 
u are missing way to many facts that i not even will bring up.

but if u feels like u will do great with that stats i will not stop you. we have all our ways.

for all that i know u can have just picked a gun and wrote down thats stats and then wating for other to write down what dmg etc. etc they have and then pick a gun that are better then what they use ;)

so no offence... i won't say anything else.

/Spikey
 
Einstein said:
This is a ranking of all weapons blp amped with dante (at lvl 70 hit, 65dmg), laser amped with A204, ranked according to DPS.
Offcourse some weapons are not realistic, but still your sword is ranked nr 39 ... :eek:

Name Dmg/sec
1 Unique Official MindArk PHG - v.Marco 11307.4
2 Prototype Rocket Launcher XXX (L) 508.2
3 Unique Dub & McCormick Terminator 102.4
4 Unique Roman Ram Purifier prototype 98.7
5 Isis BL1450 (L) 88.5
6 GeoTrek H49 Poros (L) 85.2
7 DOA Strikehammer Improved 83.2
8 DOA Foeripper 81.4
9 Emik X5 80.4
10 Emik X5 (L)
11 Isis CB29 (L) 80.0
12 Isis HL18 78.2
13 Isis HL18 (L)
14 EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified
15 EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient
16 Isis CB28 (L) 76.3
17 Isis BL1300 (L)
18 GeoTrek H33 Uti (L) 73.7
19 GeoTrek H46 Menes (L) 73.1
20 GeoTrek AL29 Felis (L) 72.7
21 DOA Rockjacker Mentor Edition 72.4
22 Geotrek LP525 Geke (L) 72.3
23 DetPil Mamba (L) 71.4
24 DOA Rockjacker 71.2
25 A-3 Justifier Mk.II Modified 71.1
26 Isis LR66 (L) 69.9
27 GeoTrek H30 Illum (L) 69.6
28 Unique Legend War Axe 69.4
29 Eraktor Abomination (L) 68.2
30 Isis HL15 66.0
31 Isis HL15 (L)
32 Omegaton ASG-2 Swine Deluxe
33 Isis LR65 (L) 65.9
34 Skildek Cobra (L) 65.8
35 A-3 Justifier Mk.III Improved 65.8
36 Isis CB26 65.6
37 Isis CB26 (L)
38 Svempa X1 (L) 65.5
39 Genesis Niflheim 65.4
40 Genesis Niflheim (L)
41 Genesis Bifrost (L) 65.2
42 Vumpoor Disintegrator (L) 64.9
43 A-3 Justifier Mk.II Improved Ancient 64.4
44 DOA Strikehammer 64.1
45 Fire Forge DAR 9300 Modified 64.0
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What amps did u put on:)?
 
CycoKick said:
Yeah it does.

So does hl15+eamp15
and these are cat 2 guns..

But you have a massive advantage in a UL sword with so few repairs. As U wont need to stock a insane ammount of L guns to be able to last long enough.

For this event Ill would need about 12x1´s hl15 users will need much more as mnay arnt full tt..

Same for most guns
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I claculated 8,64 X1s if you shoot 36 hours without stop firing
 
Joker said:
This is hypothetical paper results...
Look at your gun... equip. your best amp on your gun... Look at your min and max dmg and average the 2... then multiply your shots per min...

My Numbers
min = 78.5
Max = 157...
Average Dmg = 118 (about not including crits 300+ or misses)
X 36 swings a min
-----------------
4248 dmg per min

beat this number and you beat me...

Hypothetical Finals results level 3 (again humor me)
1)CycoKick 5610
2)Poker 4248
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

If you would do it in the form
Min dmg=
Max dmg=
Average Dmg =
X # of uses per min
-------------------
total
also if you want include set up...


this is a good start to see if you have a chance... note : there are many factors... such as mob size... type... availablity... repairs... etc...
Click to expand...

You're about 20-25% below other weapons that could and will be used by others.
 
Einstein said:
This is a ranking of all weapons blp amped with dante (at lvl 70 hit, 65dmg), laser amped with A204, ranked according to DPS.
Offcourse some weapons are not realistic, but still your sword is ranked nr 39 ... :eek:

Name Dmg/sec
1 Unique Official MindArk PHG - v.Marco 11307.4
2 Prototype Rocket Launcher XXX (L) 508.2
3 Unique Dub & McCormick Terminator 102.4
4 Unique Roman Ram Purifier prototype 98.7
5 Isis BL1450 (L) 88.5
6 GeoTrek H49 Poros (L) 85.2
7 DOA Strikehammer Improved 83.2
8 DOA Foeripper 81.4
9 Emik X5 80.4
10 Emik X5 (L)
11 Isis CB29 (L) 80.0
12 Isis HL18 78.2
13 Isis HL18 (L)
14 EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified
15 EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient
16 Isis CB28 (L) 76.3
17 Isis BL1300 (L)
18 GeoTrek H33 Uti (L) 73.7
19 GeoTrek H46 Menes (L) 73.1
20 GeoTrek AL29 Felis (L) 72.7
21 DOA Rockjacker Mentor Edition 72.4
22 Geotrek LP525 Geke (L) 72.3
23 DetPil Mamba (L) 71.4
24 DOA Rockjacker 71.2
25 A-3 Justifier Mk.II Modified 71.1
26 Isis LR66 (L) 69.9
27 GeoTrek H30 Illum (L) 69.6
28 Unique Legend War Axe 69.4
29 Eraktor Abomination (L) 68.2
30 Isis HL15 66.0
31 Isis HL15 (L)
32 Omegaton ASG-2 Swine Deluxe
33 Isis LR65 (L) 65.9
34 Skildek Cobra (L) 65.8
35 A-3 Justifier Mk.III Improved 65.8
36 Isis CB26 65.6
37 Isis CB26 (L)
38 Svempa X1 (L) 65.5
39 Genesis Niflheim 65.4
40 Genesis Niflheim (L)
41 Genesis Bifrost (L) 65.2
42 Vumpoor Disintegrator (L) 64.9
43 A-3 Justifier Mk.II Improved Ancient 64.4
44 DOA Strikehammer 64.1
45 Fire Forge DAR 9300 Modified 64.0
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the other problem you have is... this is not actual max dps... this includes a hypothetical 8% miss rate... and shit like that... and does not factor in crits...
not to mention if the people dont have the skills on some of these UL non sib weapons their dmg is much lower
 
Joker said:
the other problem you have is... this is not actual max dps... this includes a hypothetical 8% miss rate... and shit like that... and does not factor in crits...
not to mention if the people dont have the skills on some of these UL non sib weapons their dmg is much lower
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These dps are calculated at lvl 70 hit, lvl 65 dmg ... It's not max dps, but the list would be the same i think.

And as you said yourself allready, there are many things that have to be considered ;)

I just gave a quick list
 
Einstein said:
These dps are calculated at lvl 70 hit, lvl 65 dmg ... It's not max dps, but the list would be the same i think.

And as you said yourself allready, there are many things that have to be considered ;)

I just gave a quick list
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problem is the list factors a 8% miss rate... 8% miss rate brings 95 dps to 65 :)

again i am not looking for things u are saying :) i am looking for a specific number...please keep the thread clean...
I want people real weapon numbers...Your actual in game gun numbers... no websites...

Min dmg=
Max dmg=
Average Dmg =
X # of uses per min
-------------------
total

also if you want include set up...

please keep the thread clean from other information :)
 
CycoKick said:
Well ill give ya a run for your money ;)

110*51 5610.

And that not using biggest gun I could lay my hands on..
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You did your math wrong, if you want to compare to joker you gotta do the average x the attacks

so 110+55 / 2 = 82.5 x 51 = 4207.5

He actually barely beats you but you have range advantage so while he's trying to get mobs in range you can still be shooting.
 
One of the Unlimited X5 owners (Or one that bought a bunch of X5s for this) would have something like this: (With Dante only)

Min dmg= 61
Max dmg= 122
Average Dmg = 91.5
57 # of uses per min
-------------------
total 5215.5

So don't think you have that big a chance with your sword to be honest... And pretty sure a few ppl bought enough X5s, since they all went out of auction mighty fast after the Mayhem event got announced, and considering they are maxed at lvl 57, I would say the chances are fairly big that they are in lvl3 :)
 
thank you... please keep thread clean... just your own REAL stats... that you can sustain... IE... 36 hours... X5(l) and other limited weapons you may beable to do for 10 hours... but not the full 36 do not count....

again i dont think i will win first place... i am just looking for a hypothetical top 10 here... or atleast help people figure out their chances...
 
UL X5 w/evil
min 63.5
max 127
average 95.25
reload 57

95.25x57 = 5429.25 FTW
 
Joker said:
This is hypothetical paper results...
Look at your gun... equip. your best amp on your gun... Look at your min and max dmg and average the 2... then multiply your shots per min...

My Numbers
min = 78.5
Max = 157...
Average Dmg = 118 (about not including crits 300+ or misses)
X 36 swings a min
-----------------
4248 dmg per min

beat this number and you beat me...

Hypothetical Finals results level 3 (again humor me)
)Burnsey 5429.25 (ULx5)
)Poker 4248 (UL nifl)
)CycoKick 4207.5 (x1)
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)
)
)
)

If you would do it in the form
Min dmg=
Max dmg=
Average Dmg = (2 numbers / 2)
X # of uses per min
-------------------
total
also if you want include set up...


this is a good start to see if you have a chance... note : there are many factors... such as mob size... type... availablity... repairs... etc...
Click to expand...

you forgot skill , shadow and mod fap :D
 
Proppen said:
you forgot skill , shadow and mod fap :D
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or fappers... or mob availablity... or any other 15 things that could go for or against a player... i am just trying to get some kind of comparable results... that can justify if i participate or not... if you have a better way to quantify participating lemme know
 
burnsey said:
UL X5 w/evil
min 63.5
max 127
average 95.25
reload 57

95.25x57 = 5429.25 FTW
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Foeripper + Dante

min 57.75
max 132
avg 94.875
reload 59

94.875 x 59 = 5597.625 "FTW" ;)

those aren't my stats, but someone else's who could compete in level 3
 
I am hoping to get a list of 20-30 people :) dont be shy even if you dont make the top 10 on this list... atleast you know where you hypothetically stand... will be fun to see how high you actually get in the event...

this is just a start people... not a real result thing here

please keep thread clean... just looking for a persons actual numbers... in the form of...

Min dmg=
Max dmg=
Average Dmg = (2 numbers / 2)
X # of uses per min
-------------------
total
 
burnsey said:
UL X5 w/evil
min 63.5
max 127
average 95.25
reload 57

95.25x57 = 5429.25 FTW
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going to be hard to sustain this level Burns... unless u have many evils... we are going at best sustainable level... IE if u have 5 dantes... u can have a runner trade u when 3 break... and u can go with the 4th... unless u have a lot of evils this number isnt possible
 
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