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Very nice. One question, since I didn't see one mention of location as a parameter in these tests (other than that it's on Caly). You are focusing on a rather common resource, are you targeting specific places which are known to produce it in above-average quantity (e.g. via LBML or own stats), or also with other things in mind like more valuable resources, or just random or for other reasons preferred places since Ali will likely show up anyway? Not asking for your secrets, just the general method how you choose the location(s) for this test. Assuming they are the same between different finder runs of course, otherwise you couldn't stick a certain distribution to the equipment.
 
San said:
Very nice. One question, since I didn't see one mention of location as a parameter in these tests (other than that it's on Caly). You are focusing on a rather common resource, are you targeting specific places which are known to produce it in above-average quantity (e.g. via LBML or own stats), or also with other things in mind like more valuable resources, or just random or for other reasons preferred places since Ali will likely show up anyway? Not asking for your secrets, just the general method how you choose the location(s) for this test. Assuming they are the same between different finder runs of course, otherwise you couldn't stick a certain distribution to the equipment.
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Location is LA 58 and using the same drop spots for the entire test, I also get putty there, so for enm that is a good 1 imo. For the other resources it's like anywhere else, sell when % is high.
I'm only focussing on the mission, in this case 1K Alic.
I do not follow LBML.
Not updated anymore, to many miners with dif finders/depth enh/ amps, dif mining technics, ... . Only trust your own numbers ;)
 
Had to try a small run with amp 1 ... almost 68% oil ... Even when selling for high % I'm still loosing ... because I'm not getting the better enm to make up the low TT return.
Oh well, will do a few more this week.
Some say it's boring without amps ...
Believe me, I find it boring drilling oil all the time :ROFLMAO:

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAmp 1AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-1078,9757,1072,31%64,0081,05%-14,97MD-1013,49%0,00%3,42%0,00%10,67%67,97%3,15%0,00%
 
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When you posted the table of the percentages you get w/ the various finders, how long were your tests?
  • 1 day
  • 1 week
  • The life of the finder
  • Other
 
Leeloo Miner said:
As it says, close to 4K peds in totall and between 7 th july and now
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Sorry, I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I meant how long for each finder not total.
For example, how long did you mine with F-104 no enhancers before you felt comfortable with the percentages and moved to the next finder setup?
 
I did a run with any finder when sold enough for the next run and I did the next run with a different finder no matter what the TT return was and always completed the run, no matter it was bad or good while mining.
At the start I didn't had 22 finders yet, cause not all where available.
I'm still looking for some finders I do not have yet + the pre-amped to test those also.
Only if mining was really low, like other unamped miners also where getting low returns like 70-75% I stopped mining till it was good again.
 
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More results with AMP 1

The differences I currently see :
Huge amounts of oil and more nexus, even when I TT oil I still would be loosing and a lot harder to sell those amounts @ a decent %.
Still not found cave sap. Is this a coincidence? Blocked?
HR with Amp1 drops

A good friend of mine (Scudd) also pointed me in the direction of HR so I'm going to mention it here
Average HR MD-10 : Unamped 31 / Amp1 29
Average HR Demonic : Unamped 33,20 / Amp1 27

Cost (all decay/MU included) 158,60 Ped
Netto TT return 148,61 Ped : 93,70%
After sales netto (so with % and minus fee) 166,68 Ped : 105,09%
Profit/Loss so far : 8,08 Ped

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAmp 1AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-1078,9757,1072,31%64,0081,05%-14,97MD-1013,49%0,00%3,42%0,00%10,67%67,97%3,15%0,00%
204,00Demonic79,6391,51114,91%102,68128,94%23,05Demonic4,10%0,00%1,38%2,19%10,86%74,44%7,21%0,00%
158,60148,6193,70%166,68105,09%8,08
-9,998,08
 
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Simulation when TTing all oil ... Cutting your own throat ... very slowly ...

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss+Amp 1AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-1078,9757,1072,31%60,4776,57%-18,50MD-1013,49%0,00%3,42%0,00%10,67%67,97%3,15%0,00%
204,00Demonic79,6391,51114,91%96,48121,16%16,85Demonic4,10%0,00%1,38%2,19%10,86%74,44%7,21%0,00%
205,00TM10,000,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!0,00TM 1#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!
158,60148,6193,70%156,9598,96%-1,65
-9,99-1,65
 
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Hey,

here the promised results for my f105 test. Still havent gotten to try shallow mining. Stupid work, stupid need for money and food :p.

I feel like there is no difference between TM4 and F105. Yes the F105 is a little lower but I got 2 globals with it (both low % stuff like Iron or Oil or something) so I feel that is prolly the reason for the 0.6% difference. Again, this is one area, on NI. So no clue if preamping has such an impact on other areas. I was doing double drops but this is just for the ore part of it. Oh but I feel like there is still a bug in my method, cuz I've gotten just 88.4% tt return, which seems low when I see the results of other miners here... or I guess someones gotta be feeding lol

TerraMaster 4L30F105
TT foundEst. MUTT foundEst. MUTT foundEst. MU
1076,99114,14%1202,97105,87%1299,71113,52%

Next I will try TM6, and Island Seeker (very shallow). Tho right now Im still TWEN-Tokening lol. Oh and about the HR, all of them had pretty much 30%. I deleted the exact numbers for each from my spreadsheet now but I remember them all being pretty much exactly 30%, with just some variance in the second decimal place or something. Not sure if thats normal but I may drop them a little close to each other when I dont pay enough attention or forget to record a drop here or there.

Cheers
 
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Thark said:
Hey,

here the promised results for my f105 test. Still havent gotten to try shallow mining. Stupid work, stupid need for money and food :p.

I feel like there is no difference between TM4 and F105. Yes the F105 is a little lower but I got 2 globals with it (both low % stuff like Iron or Oil or something) so I feel that is prolly the reason the 0.6% difference. Again, this is one area, on NI. So no clue if preamping has such an impact on other areas. I was doing double drops but this is just for the ore part of it. Oh but I feel like there is still a bug in my method, cuz I've gotten just 88.4% tt return, which seems low when I see the results of other miners here... or I guess someones gotta be feeding lol

TerraMaster 4L30F105
TT foundEst. MUTT foundEst. MUTT foundEst. MU
1076,99114,14%1202,97105,87%1299,71113,52%

Next I will try TM6, and Island Seeker (very shallow). Tho right now Im still TWEN-Tokening lol. Oh and about the HR, all of them had pretty much 30%. I deleted the exact numbers for each from my spreadsheet now but I remember them all being pretty much exactly 30%, with just some variance in the second decimal place or something. Not sure if thats normal but I may drop them a little close to each other when I dont pay enough attention or forget to a drop here or there.

Cheers
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Thanks for sharing again :)
There was a week my TT return went down to even 70-75% this month and other miners where having the same thing, so I stopped mining for a bit.
But other than that, the unamped mining was very stable.
And I see the pre-amped L30 has less MU ...
 
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I’ll share my two cents here (which is about worth what you paid for it 😂):

Some of my highest TT return %s come from runs where my hit rate was especially low in the teens or twenties. In fact, it is more often that I have a TT positive return when this is the case.

Therefore, I don’t sweat the hit rate. I really don’t believe you can control it in any way but the slightest, and that being so negligible for it not to matter. As a result, I just focus on the MU composition and it all comes out in the wash over time.

Plus, if you’ve read my log you would know that I’m stupid TT positive over the last ~60k cycled, so that never hurts 😂
 
John uncguy43 Williams said:
I’ll share my two cents here (which is about worth what you paid for it 😂):

Some of my highest TT return %s come from runs where my hit rate was especially low in the teens or twenties. In fact, it is more often that I have a TT positive return when this is the case.

Therefore, I don’t sweat the hit rate. I really don’t believe you can control it in any way but the slightest, and that being so negligible for it not to matter. As a result, I just focus on the MU composition and it all comes out in the wash over time.

Plus, if you’ve read my log you would know that I’m stupid TT positive over the last ~60k cycled, so that never hurts 😂
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Haha yeah, and I literally hate you right now :p
 
Another day, another amped1 run
Actually this run was very good, with the amount of oil dropping to the average of a run without an amp, this time amp1 and the TM1
And because I got less oil, I got more resources with a better % which makes a big difference in the end and especially after the sale.

Only negative here is that I didn't get cave sap again. Still a coincidence? Blocked?

Average HR unamped 33,80 / Amp1 37
I just got the Roctec S16, so a new chapter "Pre-amped" coming up. :yay:

Cost (all decay/MU included) 238,09 Ped
Netto TT return 148,61 Ped : 93,84%
After sales netto (so with % and minus fee) 252,57 Ped : 106,08%
Profit/Loss so far : 14,48 Ped


DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss+Amp 1AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-1078,9757,1072,31%64,0081,05%-14,97MD-1013,49%0,00%3,42%0,00%10,67%67,97%3,15%0,00%
204,00Demonic79,6391,51114,91%102,68128,94%23,05Demonic4,10%0,00%1,38%2,19%10,86%74,44%7,21%0,00%
205,00TM179,4974,8194,11%85,89108,05%6,40TM 116,71%0,00%5,66%3,34%14,73%45,77%13,43%0,00%
238,09223,4293,84%252,57106,08%14,48
-14,6714,48
 
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Pre-Amped - 15 probes
ROCTEC S16
It's a bit cheaper than using an MD-10, Demonic or TM1 + Amp1 DEPENDING the % you pay for the amp and finders. So do the math here.
Here again, no cave ... BUT if you check auction, you'll see the availability is less ;) and that's the reason I didn't get it in the last day's.
Mining is so much more than just running around and drop probes :p

Cost (all decay/MU included) 78,01 Ped
Net TT return 71,01 Ped : 91,02%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 80,44 Ped : 103,10%
Profit/Loss so far : 2,42 Ped


DpthPre-ampedCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss15 probesAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
253,80Roctec S1678,0171,0191,02%80,44103,10%2,42Roctec S1611,76%0,00%2,40%1,41%15,72%57,81%10,77%0,00%
78,0171,0191,02%80,44103,10%2,42
-7,002,42
 
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Today F-101 + Amp 1

As Cave sap (Putty) is unavailable and the amount of Magerian is also hard to hit and Alicenies is very small, it's hard to get resources with a good %.
The next runs will therefore be unamped, because there is a greater risk of finding too many low % resources if everything remains the same.
This is easy to follow on auction
Once I sold some Oil and Nexus, I might amp up again but for now I'll wait and just sell what I have and mine unamped.

Cost (all decay/MU included) 317,12 Ped
Net TT return 294,04 Ped : 92,72%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 332,66 Ped : 104,90%
Profit/Loss so far : 15,54 Ped

DpthAmpedCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss+Amp 1AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-1078,9757,1072,31%64,0081,05%-14,97MD-1013,49%0,00%3,42%0,00%10,67%67,97%3,15%0,00%
204,00Demonic79,6391,51114,91%102,68128,94%23,05Demonic4,10%0,00%1,38%2,19%10,86%74,44%7,21%0,00%
205,00TM179,4974,8194,11%85,89108,05%6,40TM 116,71%0,00%5,66%3,34%14,73%45,77%13,43%0,00%
283,10F-10179,0370,6289,36%80,09101,34%1,06F-1011,56%0,00%5,95%0,00%13,55%61,03%17,20%0,00%
317,12294,0492,72%332,66104,90%15,54
 
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Just an un-amped update for the magerian and cave sap situation with the Ziplex 5

Cave sap : 0% so still 100% blocked. Average 2,86% with this finder
Magerian : 2,5% so a lot less in your return. Average 7,34% with this finder
Never forget that MA is always in control o_O

Less magerian and no cave at all is compensated by more oil and typo : TT return : 124,92%

I will post the full table when I reach 600/1000K alic here and in post #2 (I'm @ 584/1K for the moment)
 
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wilhb81 said:
Looks like Oil, Nexus & typo dominated the shallow depth finders...
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As for now yes, since Cave is 100% blocked and mage is harder to find so they need to give compensation but it will be the same with deeper finders.
The low % resources keep coming more and more by using Pre-amped, or Amps. The higher Pre-amped/amps you use, the more low % you will get.
 
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No update for the 1K Alic mission yet because the results are downright bad due to a lack of sufficient cave and magerian so here again, less mining.
So I played with some numbers to make a comparison of how much TT return you need to break even after the sale (with my sales % that is ofc).
Do not freak out !!!
You will now also find this % in the table in post #2

Average TT return needed to break even after sales :
Unamped : 82,74%
Pre-amped with 12 probes : no results yet
Pre-amped with 15 probes : 87,92% (equals amp 1)
Amp 1 : 87,82%
 
It is said that... first you have to lose and then it will come back... with a swirlie...
I'm definitely not losing, only around 99% TT return, my sale numbers are very positive and I still get a swirlie :)
Was mining with the Ziplex Z10 unamped !!!
[Globals]: Leeloo Leeloo Mining found a deposit (Crude Oil) with a value of 77 PED at OLA#58!
 
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How is your experience with L30 finders ? I started using them at 180% and now crafting them at 130-135%.
 
Leeloo Miner said:
It is said that... first you have to lose and then it will come back... with a swirlie...
I'm definitely not losing, only around 99% TT return, my sale numbers are very positive and I still get a swirlie :)
Was mining with the Ziplex Z10 unamped !!!
[Globals]: Leeloo Leeloo Mining found a deposit (Crude Oil) with a value of 77 PED at OLA#58!
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It looks like you're getting good result with Ziplex Z10 unamped, looking forward for the unamped HOFs with this type finder!
 
Alina said:
How is your experience with L30 finders ? I started using them at 180% and now crafting them at 130-135%.
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Not used for the moment, been looking for Ziplex finders first that uses 15 probes depending % they cost.
Not tested the TK-series neither cause of very high % sale price.

130-135% ... not sure if I'll use/test that.
Highest % I payed for now is 128% for DSEC 12 and I'll do the first run with that finder friday.

I probably go for amps 2 with the finders Ive got already first but already afraid of the amount of oil I'll be getting lol
 
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wilhb81 said:
It looks like you're getting good result with Ziplex Z10 unamped, looking forward for the unamped HOFs with this type finder!
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I'm afraid that HOF's with unamped finders for enmatter are very rare, even een global is rare, but you never know ofc but unamped mining doesn't need globals for profit and I see swirlies just for fun. ;)
 
Unamped and reached 600/1K Alic
Cost (all decay/MU included) 4345,50 Ped
Netto TT return 4352,17Ped : 100,15%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 5106,45 Ped : 117,51%
Profit/Loss so far : 760,94 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,64%
I'll post this update in post #2 also

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss10 probesAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10258,49254,2498,36%286,27110,75%27,78MD-1012,84%1,53%6,07%3,74%6,85%62,43%6,43%0,00%
204,00Demonic259,68227,4787,60%259,95100,10%0,26Demonic15,47%0,69%2,62%2,75%13,28%58,29%6,53%0,00%
205,00TM1261,67261,95100,11%295,71113,01%34,04TM 113,40%0,00%5,04%1,34%9,40%59,95%10,88%0,00%
213,90DSEC L251,9138,1973,57%43,5083,79%-8,41DSEC L218,07%0,00%8,09%0,00%13,33%53,68%3,93%0,00%
283,10F-101260,65242,3492,98%305,18117,08%44,53F-10112,36%8,37%6,24%5,57%9,57%48,90%8,79%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5296,24266,9090,10%312,18105,38%15,94Ziplex 510,27%2,19%3,21%6,56%6,46%60,00%10,96%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2153,97105,0368,21%124,9081,12%-29,07Sabad 211,47%4,83%1,30%2,14%7,46%58,34%13,85%0,00%
347,30F-102258,55274,89106,32%318,07123,02%59,52F-10242,00%1,56%2,13%4,00%8,84%34,61%6,98%0,00%
390,10F-103313,44351,31112,08%408,80130,43%95,36F-10314,69%2,66%3,99%4,63%9,31%46,20%18,96%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10157,96279,12176,70%312,67197,94%154,71Ziplex 107,58%0,98%3,99%0,45%3,83%80,50%4,41%0,00%
408,00TM 2260,63249,3595,67%291,22111,74%30,59TM214,20%3,28%5,03%2,41%10,38%58,76%5,71%0,00%
432,90F-104260,39226,4286,95%273,52105,04%13,13F-10410,91%5,00%5,65%3,53%11,88%55,11%6,56%0,53%
472,60F-211208,3020497,93%236,98113,76%28,67F-21117,70%1,72%1,92%5,76%8,04%52,91%11,91%0,00%
477,60Ziplex 15156,80231,04147,35%270,45172,48%113,65Ziplex 156,67%3,21%4,85%2,60%4,87%58,98%20,39%0,00%
522,4F-105210,90231,90109,96%270,36128,19%59,46F-10514,49%2,19%5,03%3,77%9,74%56,71%8,54%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 2051,9540,678,15%46,5289,56%-5,43Ziplex 206,16%0,00%4,23%3,69%14,04%55,17%15,52%0,00%
592F-212103,9390,8687,43%110,95106,76%7,02F-21222,89%4,29%6,25%9,36%11,23%41,78%3,30%0,00%
626,9Ziplex 25108,2979,1173,05%92,2685,19%-16,03Ziplex 2512,01%1,97%2,68%4,42%9,25%51,42%15,74%1,52%
631,8F-213157,38132,6884,31%157,1399,84%-0,25F-21313,75%2,35%4,58%6,03%10,56%40,89%17,98%3,01%
631,8TM 3184,43236,88128,44%286,80155,51%102,37TM 37,75%3,79%5,21%2,96%21,75%29,46%29,07%1,18%
676,5Emine210,89208,3498,79%253,00119,97%42,11Emine17,23%5,24%5,36%5,40%8,35%46,66%10,15%1,54%
741TM 4108,7581,7475,16%105,7397,22%-3,02TM 49,91%10,50%4,51%7,65%10,84%47,77%4,40%2,94%
830,8TM 550,3037,8175,17%44,3088,08%-6,00TM 55,16%4,13%0,00%2,64%4,71%67,10%13,09%3,17%
4345,504352,17100,15%5106,44117,51%760,94Totall ped575,25113,10160,70159,25370,471954,67460,2014,80
6,67760,94Totall %13,24%2,60%3,70%3,66%8,53%44,98%10,59%0,34%
Minimum needed82,64%17,51%
 
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Here the first results with the DSEC 12

Cost (all decay/MU included) 63,72 Ped
Netto TT return 54,83 Ped : 86,05%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 80,44 Ped : 103,10%
Profit/Loss so far : 3,49 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 80,57%
I'll post this update in post #2 also for comparison

First conclusion :
the amount of oil is very nicely between unamped, pre-amped 15 and amp 1 as expected ;)

DpthPre-ampedCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss12probesAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
462,70DSEC 1263,7254,8386,05%67,21105,48%3,49DSEC 1212,58%5,69%12,00%3,19%9,28%47,46%5,75%2,92%
63,7254,8386,05%67,21105,48%3,49
-8,893,49
Minimum needed-80,57%5,48%
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
Unamped and reached 600/1K Alic
Cost (all decay/MU included) 4345,50 Ped
Netto TT return 4352,17Ped : 100,15%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 5106,45 Ped : 117,51%
Profit/Loss so far : 760,94 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,64%
I'll post this update in post #2 also

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss10 probesAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10258,49254,2498,36%286,27110,75%27,78MD-1012,84%1,53%6,07%3,74%6,85%62,43%6,43%0,00%
204,00Demonic259,68227,4787,60%259,95100,10%0,26Demonic15,47%0,69%2,62%2,75%13,28%58,29%6,53%0,00%
205,00TM1261,67261,95100,11%295,71113,01%34,04TM 113,40%0,00%5,04%1,34%9,40%59,95%10,88%0,00%
213,90DSEC L251,9138,1973,57%43,5083,79%-8,41DSEC L218,07%0,00%8,09%0,00%13,33%53,68%3,93%0,00%
283,10F-101260,65242,3492,98%305,18117,08%44,53F-10112,36%8,37%6,24%5,57%9,57%48,90%8,79%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5296,24266,9090,10%312,18105,38%15,94Ziplex 510,27%2,19%3,21%6,56%6,46%60,00%10,96%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2153,97105,0368,21%124,9081,12%-29,07Sabad 211,47%4,83%1,30%2,14%7,46%58,34%13,85%0,00%
347,30F-102258,55274,89106,32%318,07123,02%59,52F-10242,00%1,56%2,13%4,00%8,84%34,61%6,98%0,00%
390,10F-103313,44351,31112,08%408,80130,43%95,36F-10314,69%2,66%3,99%4,63%9,31%46,20%18,96%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10157,96279,12176,70%312,67197,94%154,71Ziplex 107,58%0,98%3,99%0,45%3,83%80,50%4,41%0,00%
408,00TM 2260,63249,3595,67%291,22111,74%30,59TM214,20%3,28%5,03%2,41%10,38%58,76%5,71%0,00%
432,90F-104260,39226,4286,95%273,52105,04%13,13F-10410,91%5,00%5,65%3,53%11,88%55,11%6,56%0,53%
472,60F-211208,3020497,93%236,98113,76%28,67F-21117,70%1,72%1,92%5,76%8,04%52,91%11,91%0,00%
477,60Ziplex 15156,80231,04147,35%270,45172,48%113,65Ziplex 156,67%3,21%4,85%2,60%4,87%58,98%20,39%0,00%
522,4F-105210,90231,90109,96%270,36128,19%59,46F-10514,49%2,19%5,03%3,77%9,74%56,71%8,54%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 2051,9540,678,15%46,5289,56%-5,43Ziplex 206,16%0,00%4,23%3,69%14,04%55,17%15,52%0,00%
592F-212103,9390,8687,43%110,95106,76%7,02F-21222,89%4,29%6,25%9,36%11,23%41,78%3,30%0,00%
626,9Ziplex 25108,2979,1173,05%92,2685,19%-16,03Ziplex 2512,01%1,97%2,68%4,42%9,25%51,42%15,74%1,52%
631,8F-213157,38132,6884,31%157,1399,84%-0,25F-21313,75%2,35%4,58%6,03%10,56%40,89%17,98%3,01%
631,8TM 3184,43236,88128,44%286,80155,51%102,37TM 37,75%3,79%5,21%2,96%21,75%29,46%29,07%1,18%
676,5Emine210,89208,3498,79%253,00119,97%42,11Emine17,23%5,24%5,36%5,40%8,35%46,66%10,15%1,54%
741TM 4108,7581,7475,16%105,7397,22%-3,02TM 49,91%10,50%4,51%7,65%10,84%47,77%4,40%2,94%
830,8TM 550,3037,8175,17%44,3088,08%-6,00TM 55,16%4,13%0,00%2,64%4,71%67,10%13,09%3,17%
4345,504352,17100,15%5106,44117,51%760,94Totall ped575,25113,10160,70159,25370,471954,67460,2014,80
6,67760,94Totall %13,24%2,60%3,70%3,66%8,53%44,98%10,59%0,34%
Minimum needed82,64%17,51%
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Based on your above data, it seems like Sabad 2 finder is the most least efficient for you (the below 70% TT return is definitely a NO NO).

Might need to avoid using this finder in near future...
 
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