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TM 2 went ok and I passed the 750/1K Alic :)
Only needed 82,52% and getting a lot more resources with decent MU ...
Might stop amped and go for best profit.

82,52%HRAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
Return172-704359-585245-494363-438272-616166-724206-610
92,32%-3,84337,82,735,45,7222,861,65
88,78%-5,612991,5612,4817,453,9
127,32%13,66316,850,732,3345,984,8
96,46%-1,77357,651,173,11,53,7528,362,7
93,82%-3,09304,12,733,91,51,6131,871,2
104,22%2,113611,751,564,21,5928,664,35
AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
47,159,7517,3627,48175,1818,60
15,64%3,23%5,54%1,99%9,12%58,11%6,17%0,00%

Reached 750/1K Alic

TT neededComparisonCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
82,52%Unamped5140,975248,36102,09%6147,13119,57%1006,17Unamped13,11%3,00%3,54%3,74%9,43%46,60%10,16%0,37%
81,15%Pre-amped63,7254,8386,05%66,84104,90%3,1212 probes12,58%5,69%12,00%3,19%9,28%47,46%5,75%2,92%
86,16%Pre-ampedequals amp1153,96130,8084,96%152,1198,80%-1,8515 probes9,94%2,09%2,20%4,97%16,29%58,34%5,85%0,00%
86,76%Amp lvl1871,70818,3793,88%933,76107,12%62,06Amp lvl19,07%0,54%3,52%2,09%16,18%47,07%8,59%0,00%
6230,356252,36100,35%7299,85117,17%1069,50
 
My conclusion after analyzing the numbers.

In the meantime, I've decided to give up pre-amped/amped completely.
This only makes mining much more unstable
AND
When I look at the results, they only give more fillers.
If you try to sell this large quantity at a reasonable price so that you don't make a loss, it will take even longer before you get your peds back to do the next run.
That only causes even more delay while I expected the opposite.
If you sell these fillers to the TT, you are guaranteed to make a lot of losses, even in the longer term, and the bigger the amp, the more losses.
I choose unamped mining, where I get more decent MU resources and I calculate the MU so that I am sure that I am making a profit.
Agreed, I have to stockpile, but that's nothing compared to amped mining.
I will continue with this 1K alic until I reach my goal.
Then I'll move on to my next goal, which will consist of ores and will probably involve testing with all these different finders and depth enhancers, but that will depend on the results of what I find without depth enhancers first.
The advantage here with single drops is that while I mine ores, I can sell my stock of enmatters and vice versa of course.
But that's for later, I'm currently on 763/1K alic and without amps it will take a while.
 
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And again a Ziplex ... this time the Ziplex 20 and I'm 778/1K Alic

[Globals]: Leeloo Leeloo Mining found a deposit (Crude Oil) with a value of 71 PED at OLA#58!

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/loss10 probesAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10258,49254,2498,36%286,30110,76%27,81MD-1012,84%1,53%6,07%3,74%6,85%62,43%6,43%0,00%
204,00Demonic259,68227,4787,60%257,9599,34%-1,73Demonic15,47%0,69%2,62%2,75%13,28%58,29%6,53%0,00%
205,00TM1261,67261,95100,11%293,33112,10%31,66TM 113,40%0,00%5,04%1,34%9,40%59,95%10,88%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2103,9583,4480,27%94,7991,19%-9,16DSEC L213,00%0,93%4,04%0,00%13,28%53,55%14,20%0,00%
283,10F-101260,65242,3492,98%303,53116,45%42,88F-10112,36%8,37%6,24%5,57%9,57%48,90%8,79%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5296,24266,9090,10%309,81104,58%13,57Ziplex 510,27%2,19%3,21%6,56%6,46%60,00%10,96%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2205,65194,8794,76%229,08111,39%23,42Sabad 223,58%3,40%1,65%2,18%15,87%44,14%9,08%0,00%
347,30F-102258,55274,89106,32%316,66122,48%58,11F-10242,00%1,56%2,13%4,00%8,84%34,61%6,98%0,00%
390,10F-103313,44351,31112,08%406,42129,66%92,98F-10314,69%2,66%3,99%4,63%9,31%46,20%18,96%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10212,86314,74147,86%353,05165,86%140,19Ziplex 108,32%1,61%3,66%0,87%4,92%76,27%5,53%0,00%
408,00TM 2312,36301,4696,51%349,20111,79%36,84TM215,64%3,23%5,54%1,99%9,12%58,11%6,17%0,00%
432,90F-104312,13280,3789,82%333,48106,84%21,35F-10411,04%4,45%5,64%2,85%11,75%56,56%6,63%0,43%
472,60F-211312,06341,96109,58%403,03129,15%90,97F-21114,71%3,54%3,08%5,41%8,75%53,63%10,92%0,23%
477,60Ziplex 15258,37321,16124,30%378,66146,56%120,29Ziplex 158,86%4,37%3,68%3,43%4,94%58,22%17,23%0,00%
522,4F-105315,09313,3799,45%367,34116,58%52,25F-10513,20%2,99%5,08%4,31%10,09%55,03%9,29%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20154,26251,9163,30%294,46190,88%140,20Ziplex 204,49%2,79%4,54%2,48%20,97%60,84%5,66%0,00%
592F-212155,71141,5690,91%174,87112,30%19,16F-21216,32%5,51%5,59%8,30%17,91%40,41%5,40%0,00%
626,9Ziplex 25162,24126,4877,96%150,4692,74%-11,78Ziplex 2511,66%4,63%1,79%5,14%8,74%56,74%9,84%0,95%
631,8F-213209,56191,4391,35%223,42106,61%13,85F-21313,82%2,24%4,06%5,62%8,43%48,80%14,57%2,09%
631,8TM 3238,18287,82120,84%345,62145,11%107,44TM 37,66%3,52%4,03%4,69%18,88%35,04%25,48%1,39%
676,5Emine262,93281,68107,13%333,98127,02%71,05Emine13,63%4,29%5,36%3,99%7,23%53,19%10,81%1,85%
741TM 4163,01156,6796,11%190,70116,99%27,70TM 48,04%6,72%3,74%4,95%8,48%59,68%6,70%1,53%
830,8TM 5109,5288,3780,68%113,33103,47%3,80TM 58,37%12,36%1,10%3,11%7,06%56,37%10,01%1,36%
5396,605556,38102,96%6509,45120,62%1112,86Totall ped696,60165,75192,70201,25505,082558,10539,5518,80
159,781112,86Totall %12,91%3,07%3,57%3,73%9,36%47,40%10,00%0,35%
Minimum needed82,34%20,62%
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
My conclusion after analyzing the numbers.

In the meantime, I've decided to give up pre-amped/amped completely.
This only makes mining much more unstable
AND
When I look at the results, they only give more fillers.
If you try to sell this large quantity at a reasonable price so that you don't make a loss, it will take even longer before you get your peds back to do the next run.
That only causes even more delay while I expected the opposite.
If you sell these fillers to the TT, you are guaranteed to make a lot of losses, even in the longer term, and the bigger the amp, the more losses.
I choose unamped mining, where I get more decent MU resources and I calculate the MU so that I am sure that I am making a profit.
Agreed, I have to stockpile, but that's nothing compared to amped mining.
I will continue with this 1K alic until I reach my goal.
Then I'll move on to my next goal, which will consist of ores and will probably involve testing with all these different finders and depth enhancers, but that will depend on the results of what I find without depth enhancers first.
The advantage here with single drops is that while I mine ores, I can sell my stock of enmatters and vice versa of course.
But that's for later, I'm currently on 763/1K alic and without amps it will take a while.
Click to expand...
Awesome advices!

Looking forward for your ores mining tests and data collection :)
 
Finally reached the 800/1K alic today :yay:
Also stopped pre-amped / amped and the returns are back very stable ;)

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10258,49254,2498,36%286,30110,76%27,81MD-1012,84%1,53%6,07%3,74%6,85%62,43%6,43%0,00%
204,00Demonic259,68227,4787,60%257,9599,34%-1,73Demonic15,47%0,69%2,62%2,75%13,28%58,29%6,53%0,00%
205,00TM1261,67261,95100,11%293,33112,10%31,66TM 113,40%0,00%5,04%1,34%9,40%59,95%10,88%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2103,9583,4480,27%94,7991,19%-9,16DSEC L213,00%0,93%4,04%0,00%13,28%53,55%14,20%0,00%
283,10F-101260,65242,3492,98%303,53116,45%42,88F-10112,36%8,37%6,24%5,57%9,57%48,90%8,79%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5296,24266,9090,10%309,81104,58%13,57Ziplex 510,27%2,19%3,21%6,56%6,46%60,00%10,96%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2205,65194,8794,76%229,08111,39%23,42Sabad 223,58%3,40%1,65%2,18%15,87%44,14%9,08%0,00%
347,30F-102258,55274,89106,32%316,66122,48%58,11F-10242,00%1,56%2,13%4,00%8,84%34,61%6,98%0,00%
390,10F-103313,44351,31112,08%406,42129,66%92,98F-10314,69%2,66%3,99%4,63%9,31%46,20%18,96%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10212,86314,74147,86%353,05165,86%140,19Ziplex 108,32%1,61%3,66%0,87%4,92%76,27%5,53%0,00%
408,00TM 2312,36301,4696,51%349,20111,79%36,84TM215,64%3,23%5,54%1,99%9,12%58,11%6,17%0,00%
432,90F-104312,13280,3789,82%333,48106,84%21,35F-10411,04%4,45%5,64%2,85%11,75%56,56%6,63%0,43%
472,60F-211312,06341,96109,58%403,03129,15%90,97F-21114,71%3,54%3,08%5,41%8,75%53,63%10,92%0,23%
477,60Ziplex 15258,37321,16124,30%378,66146,56%120,29Ziplex 158,86%4,37%3,68%3,43%4,94%58,22%17,23%0,00%
522,4F-105315,09313,3799,45%367,34116,58%52,25F-10513,20%2,99%5,08%4,31%10,09%55,03%9,29%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20154,26251,9163,30%294,46190,88%140,20Ziplex 204,49%2,79%4,54%2,48%20,97%60,84%5,66%0,00%
592F-212205,95208,85101,41%259,70126,10%53,75F-21215,13%5,79%14,03%7,30%12,60%38,78%5,60%0,96%
626,9Ziplex 25212,29182,1485,80%217,87102,63%5,58Ziplex 2510,40%4,71%1,98%5,08%11,86%53,54%11,45%0,66%
631,8F-213259,60270,75104,29%323,40124,57%63,80F-21310,75%4,61%3,58%6,74%6,26%55,82%10,91%1,48%
631,8TM 3291,92344,96118,17%412,12141,17%120,19TM 38,10%3,50%3,29%4,35%18,01%39,61%22,48%1,16%
676,5Emine315,03334,25106,10%394,43125,20%79,40Emine13,66%3,62%4,82%4,04%9,25%50,72%12,61%1,56%
741TM 4213,46202,5494,89%246,16115,32%32,70TM 47,70%6,55%2,86%5,92%6,56%58,43%9,26%2,57%
830,8TM 5159,66149,6993,75%185,96116,47%26,29TM 512,29%9,38%0,75%3,67%6,77%56,89%8,32%1,87%
5753,365975,55103,86%7016,70121,96%1263,34Totall ped739,10188,76216,10225,75539,652781,04581,4025,20
222,19Profit1263,34Totall %12,85%3,28%3,76%3,92%9,38%48,34%10,11%0,44%
Minimum TT needed81,90%21,96%
 
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Reached 850/1K tx to the Ziplex-5, that gave me 1x modest + 1x ample Alic
I'm beginning to like the Ziplex series :giggle:

Cost (all decay/MU included) 6064,95 Ped
Net TT return 6301,54 Ped : 103,90%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 7385,28 Ped : 121,77%
Profit/Loss so far : 1320,33
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,13%

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10309,58310,18100,19%348,08112,44%38,50MD-1014,25%1,26%6,52%3,06%7,71%61,46%5,75%0,00%
204,00Demonic311,10265,4885,34%300,7796,68%-10,33Demonic16,89%0,59%3,44%2,35%13,04%57,50%5,59%0,00%
205,00TM1313,61309,1898,59%346,33110,43%32,72TM 113,29%0,00%4,59%2,18%8,50%61,28%10,09%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2155,95147,5194,59%168,73108,20%12,78DSEC L213,19%2,12%5,64%0,00%8,65%60,22%9,86%0,00%
283,10F-101312,01291,6193,46%360,18115,44%48,17F-10111,81%6,95%8,20%5,23%9,04%49,58%8,95%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5348,96338,3796,97%390,20111,82%41,25Ziplex 515,86%1,73%3,55%5,54%6,80%55,77%10,64%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2206,73194,8794,27%229,08110,81%22,35Sabad 223,58%3,40%1,64%2,18%15,87%44,14%9,08%0,00%
347,30F-102258,55274,89106,32%316,66122,48%58,11F-10242,00%1,56%2,13%4,00%8,84%34,61%6,98%0,00%
390,10F-103313,44351,31112,08%406,42129,66%92,98F-10314,69%2,66%3,99%4,63%9,31%46,20%18,96%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10212,86314,74147,86%353,05165,86%140,19Ziplex 108,32%1,61%3,66%0,87%4,92%76,27%5,53%0,00%
408,00TM 2312,36301,4696,51%349,20111,79%36,84TM215,64%3,23%5,54%1,99%9,12%58,11%6,17%0,00%
432,90F-104312,13280,3789,82%333,48106,84%21,35F-10411,04%4,45%5,64%2,85%11,75%56,56%6,63%0,43%
472,60F-211312,06341,96109,58%403,03129,15%90,97F-21114,71%3,54%3,08%5,41%8,75%53,63%10,92%0,23%
477,60Ziplex 15258,37321,16124,30%378,66146,56%120,29Ziplex 158,86%4,37%3,68%3,43%4,94%58,22%17,23%0,00%
522,4F-105315,09313,3799,45%367,34116,58%52,25F-10513,20%2,99%5,08%4,31%10,09%55,03%9,29%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20154,26251,9163,30%294,46190,88%140,20Ziplex 204,49%2,79%4,54%2,48%20,97%60,84%5,66%0,00%
592F-212205,95208,85101,41%259,70126,10%53,75F-21215,13%5,79%14,03%7,30%12,60%38,78%5,60%0,96%
626,9Ziplex 25212,29182,1485,80%217,87102,63%5,58Ziplex 2510,40%4,71%1,98%5,08%11,86%53,54%11,45%0,66%
631,8F-213259,60270,75104,29%323,40124,57%63,80F-21310,75%4,61%3,58%6,74%6,26%55,82%10,91%1,48%
631,8TM 3291,92344,96118,17%412,12141,17%120,19TM 38,10%3,50%3,29%4,35%18,01%39,61%22,48%1,16%
676,5Emine315,03334,25106,10%394,43125,20%79,40Emine13,66%3,62%4,82%4,04%9,25%50,72%12,61%1,56%
741TM 4213,46202,5494,89%246,16115,32%32,70TM 47,70%6,55%2,86%5,92%6,56%58,43%9,26%2,57%
830,8TM 5159,66149,6993,75%185,96116,47%26,29TM 512,29%9,38%0,75%3,67%6,77%56,89%8,32%1,87%
6064,956301,54103,90%7385,28121,77%1320,33Totall ped797,05188,76237,60232,00561,082920,08597,1525,20
236,591320,33Totall %13,14%3,11%3,92%3,83%9,25%48,15%9,85%0,42%
Minimum needed82,13%21,77%
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
Reached 850/1K tx to the Ziplex-5, that gave me 1x modest + 1x ample Alic
I'm beginning to like the Ziplex series :giggle:

Cost (all decay/MU included) 6064,95 Ped
Net TT return 6301,54 Ped : 103,90%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 7385,28 Ped : 121,77%
Profit/Loss so far : 1320,33
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,13%

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10309,58310,18100,19%348,08112,44%38,50MD-1014,25%1,26%6,52%3,06%7,71%61,46%5,75%0,00%
204,00Demonic311,10265,4885,34%300,7796,68%-10,33Demonic16,89%0,59%3,44%2,35%13,04%57,50%5,59%0,00%
205,00TM1313,61309,1898,59%346,33110,43%32,72TM 113,29%0,00%4,59%2,18%8,50%61,28%10,09%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2155,95147,5194,59%168,73108,20%12,78DSEC L213,19%2,12%5,64%0,00%8,65%60,22%9,86%0,00%
283,10F-101312,01291,6193,46%360,18115,44%48,17F-10111,81%6,95%8,20%5,23%9,04%49,58%8,95%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5348,96338,3796,97%390,20111,82%41,25Ziplex 515,86%1,73%3,55%5,54%6,80%55,77%10,64%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2206,73194,8794,27%229,08110,81%22,35Sabad 223,58%3,40%1,64%2,18%15,87%44,14%9,08%0,00%
347,30F-102258,55274,89106,32%316,66122,48%58,11F-10242,00%1,56%2,13%4,00%8,84%34,61%6,98%0,00%
390,10F-103313,44351,31112,08%406,42129,66%92,98F-10314,69%2,66%3,99%4,63%9,31%46,20%18,96%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10212,86314,74147,86%353,05165,86%140,19Ziplex 108,32%1,61%3,66%0,87%4,92%76,27%5,53%0,00%
408,00TM 2312,36301,4696,51%349,20111,79%36,84TM215,64%3,23%5,54%1,99%9,12%58,11%6,17%0,00%
432,90F-104312,13280,3789,82%333,48106,84%21,35F-10411,04%4,45%5,64%2,85%11,75%56,56%6,63%0,43%
472,60F-211312,06341,96109,58%403,03129,15%90,97F-21114,71%3,54%3,08%5,41%8,75%53,63%10,92%0,23%
477,60Ziplex 15258,37321,16124,30%378,66146,56%120,29Ziplex 158,86%4,37%3,68%3,43%4,94%58,22%17,23%0,00%
522,4F-105315,09313,3799,45%367,34116,58%52,25F-10513,20%2,99%5,08%4,31%10,09%55,03%9,29%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20154,26251,9163,30%294,46190,88%140,20Ziplex 204,49%2,79%4,54%2,48%20,97%60,84%5,66%0,00%
592F-212205,95208,85101,41%259,70126,10%53,75F-21215,13%5,79%14,03%7,30%12,60%38,78%5,60%0,96%
626,9Ziplex 25212,29182,1485,80%217,87102,63%5,58Ziplex 2510,40%4,71%1,98%5,08%11,86%53,54%11,45%0,66%
631,8F-213259,60270,75104,29%323,40124,57%63,80F-21310,75%4,61%3,58%6,74%6,26%55,82%10,91%1,48%
631,8TM 3291,92344,96118,17%412,12141,17%120,19TM 38,10%3,50%3,29%4,35%18,01%39,61%22,48%1,16%
676,5Emine315,03334,25106,10%394,43125,20%79,40Emine13,66%3,62%4,82%4,04%9,25%50,72%12,61%1,56%
741TM 4213,46202,5494,89%246,16115,32%32,70TM 47,70%6,55%2,86%5,92%6,56%58,43%9,26%2,57%
830,8TM 5159,66149,6993,75%185,96116,47%26,29TM 512,29%9,38%0,75%3,67%6,77%56,89%8,32%1,87%
6064,956301,54103,90%7385,28121,77%1320,33Totall ped797,05188,76237,60232,00561,082920,08597,1525,20
236,591320,33Totall %13,14%3,11%3,92%3,83%9,25%48,15%9,85%0,42%
Minimum needed82,13%21,77%
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You're doing pretty good with Ziplex series!

Looks like Ziplex series = your luckycharm :)
 
Love the amount of information you gather and the precision with which you do it :love:
 
Alic was hitting nicely, so I reached 900/1K already :yay:

Cost (all decay/MU included) 6270,42 Ped
Net TT return 6511,81 Ped : 103,85%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 7627,81 Ped : 121,65%
Profit/Loss so far : 1357,38 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,20%

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10309,58310,18100,19%348,08112,44%38,50MD-1014,25%1,26%6,52%3,06%7,71%61,46%5,75%0,00%
204,00Demonic311,10265,4885,34%300,7796,68%-10,33Demonic16,89%0,59%3,44%2,35%13,04%57,50%5,59%0,00%
205,00TM1313,61309,1898,59%346,33110,43%32,72TM 113,29%0,00%4,59%2,18%8,50%61,28%10,09%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2155,95147,5194,59%168,73108,20%12,78DSEC L213,19%2,12%5,64%0,00%8,65%60,22%9,86%0,00%
283,10F-101312,01291,6193,46%360,18115,44%48,17F-10111,81%6,95%8,20%5,23%9,04%49,58%8,95%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5348,96338,3796,97%390,20111,82%41,25Ziplex 515,86%1,73%3,55%5,54%6,80%55,77%10,64%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2256,87254,2498,98%296,77115,54%39,91Sabad 226,53%2,91%1,91%2,75%13,41%45,21%7,26%0,00%
347,30F-102309,77320,96103,61%370,21119,51%60,44F-10238,82%1,70%1,78%4,28%8,91%37,28%7,29%0,00%
390,10F-103365,07404,36110,76%467,33128,01%102,26F-10318,58%2,70%3,75%4,02%8,40%45,29%17,62%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10265,34366,52138,13%413,41155,80%148,07Ziplex 109,29%1,38%6,93%1,50%5,20%71,26%6,34%0,00%
408,00TM 2312,36301,4696,51%349,20111,79%36,84TM215,64%3,23%5,54%1,99%9,12%58,11%6,17%0,00%
432,90F-104312,13280,3789,82%333,48106,84%21,35F-10411,04%4,45%5,64%2,85%11,75%56,56%6,63%0,43%
472,60F-211312,06341,96109,58%403,03129,15%90,97F-21114,71%3,54%3,08%5,41%8,75%53,63%10,92%0,23%
477,60Ziplex 15258,37321,16124,30%378,66146,56%120,29Ziplex 158,86%4,37%3,68%3,43%4,94%58,22%17,23%0,00%
522,4F-105315,09313,3799,45%367,34116,58%52,25F-10513,20%2,99%5,08%4,31%10,09%55,03%9,29%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20154,26251,9163,30%294,46190,88%140,20Ziplex 204,49%2,79%4,54%2,48%20,97%60,84%5,66%0,00%
592F-212205,95208,85101,41%259,70126,10%53,75F-21215,13%5,79%14,03%7,30%12,60%38,78%5,60%0,96%
626,9Ziplex 25212,29182,1485,80%217,87102,63%5,58Ziplex 2510,40%4,71%1,98%5,08%11,86%53,54%11,45%0,66%
631,8F-213259,60270,75104,29%323,40124,57%63,80F-21310,75%4,61%3,58%6,74%6,26%55,82%10,91%1,48%
631,8TM 3291,92344,96118,17%412,12141,17%120,19TM 38,10%3,50%3,29%4,35%18,01%39,61%22,48%1,16%
676,5Emine315,03334,25106,10%394,43125,20%79,40Emine13,66%3,62%4,82%4,04%9,25%50,72%12,61%1,56%
741TM 4213,46202,5494,89%246,16115,32%32,70TM 47,70%6,55%2,86%5,92%6,56%58,43%9,26%2,57%
830,8TM 5159,66149,6993,75%185,96116,47%26,29TM 512,29%9,38%0,75%3,67%6,77%56,89%8,32%1,87%
6270,426511,81103,85%7627,81121,65%1357,38Totall ped851,25192,27240,30237,50569,842994,30606,7525,20
241,391357,38Totall %13,58%3,07%3,83%3,79%9,09%47,75%9,68%0,40%
Minimum needed82,20%21,65%
 
Alicenies 950/1K :yay:
The last 50 points to the finish line are coming.

Cost (all decay/MU included) 6681,36 Ped
Net TT return 6931,70 Ped : 103,875%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 8129,73 Ped : 121,68%
Profit/Loss so far : 1448,73 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,07%

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10309,58310,18100,19%348,08112,44%38,50MD-1014,25%1,26%6,52%3,06%7,71%61,46%5,75%0,00%
204,00Demonic311,10265,4885,34%300,7796,68%-10,33Demonic16,89%0,59%3,44%2,35%13,04%57,50%5,59%0,00%
205,00TM1313,61309,1898,59%346,33110,43%32,72TM 113,29%0,00%4,59%2,18%8,50%61,28%10,09%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2155,95147,5194,59%168,73108,20%12,78DSEC L213,19%2,12%5,64%0,00%8,65%60,22%9,86%0,00%
283,10F-101312,01291,6193,46%360,18115,44%48,17F-10111,81%6,95%8,20%5,23%9,04%49,58%8,95%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5348,96338,3796,97%390,20111,82%41,25Ziplex 515,86%1,73%3,55%5,54%6,80%55,77%10,64%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2256,87254,2498,98%296,77115,54%39,91Sabad 226,53%2,91%1,91%2,75%13,41%45,21%7,26%0,00%
347,30F-102309,77320,96103,61%370,21119,51%60,44F-10238,82%1,70%1,78%4,28%8,91%37,28%7,29%0,00%
390,10F-103365,07404,36110,76%467,33128,01%102,26F-10318,58%2,70%3,75%4,02%8,40%45,29%17,62%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10265,34366,52138,13%413,41155,80%148,07Ziplex 109,29%1,38%6,93%1,50%5,20%71,26%6,34%0,00%
408,00TM 2364,19349,5995,99%405,60111,37%41,41TM217,05%3,24%5,38%2,15%10,01%55,61%6,35%0,00%
432,90F-104363,83325,1489,37%385,72106,02%21,89F-10412,38%4,20%4,84%3,46%11,30%55,96%6,92%0,37%
472,60F-211363,67414,54113,99%487,51134,05%123,84F-21114,38%3,48%4,26%4,82%8,04%54,92%10,42%0,19%
477,60Ziplex 15310,09379,87122,50%443,92143,16%133,83Ziplex 1510,14%3,70%3,06%3,62%4,60%58,93%15,99%0,53%
522,4F-105367,29360,0298,02%433,37117,99%66,08F-10513,32%5,42%4,90%4,10%9,12%52,88%10,17%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20206,05304,42147,74%356,50173,02%150,45Ziplex 207,83%2,82%6,99%2,46%19,03%58,18%4,68%0,26%
592F-212255,99257,46100,57%316,14123,50%60,15F-21215,11%5,30%12,46%5,92%12,27%42,46%5,77%0,78%
626,9Ziplex 25262,34230,0687,70%276,89105,55%14,55Ziplex 2512,28%5,26%2,13%4,67%12,71%51,33%10,11%1,22%
631,8F-213259,60270,75104,29%323,40124,57%63,80F-21310,75%4,61%3,58%6,74%6,26%55,82%10,91%1,48%
631,8TM 3291,92344,96118,17%412,12141,17%120,19TM 38,10%3,50%3,29%4,35%18,01%39,61%22,48%1,16%
676,5Emine315,03334,25106,10%394,43125,20%79,40Emine13,66%3,62%4,82%4,04%9,25%50,72%12,61%1,56%
741TM 4213,46202,5494,89%246,16115,32%32,70TM 47,70%6,55%2,86%5,92%6,56%58,43%9,26%2,57%
830,8TM 5159,66149,6993,75%185,96116,47%26,29TM 512,29%9,38%0,75%3,67%6,77%56,89%8,32%1,87%
6681,366931,70103,75%8129,73121,68%1448,37Totall ped918,80212,94262,30247,25601,583185,41634,6529,60
250,341448,37Totall %13,75%3,19%3,93%3,70%9,00%47,68%9,50%0,44%
Minimum TT needed82,07%
 
I made it !!! 1K alic so here is the final result

Cost (all decay/MU included) 6853,04 Ped
Net TT return 7161,36 Ped : 104,50%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 8405,18 Ped : 122,65%
Profit/Loss so far : 1552,15 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 81,85%

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10309,58310,18100,19%348,08112,44%38,50MD-1014,25%1,26%6,52%3,06%7,71%61,46%5,75%0,00%
204,00Demonic311,10265,4885,34%300,7796,68%-10,33Demonic16,89%0,59%3,44%2,35%13,04%57,50%5,59%0,00%
205,00TM1313,61309,1898,59%346,33110,43%32,72TM 113,29%0,00%4,59%2,18%8,50%61,28%10,09%0,00%
213,90DSEC L2155,95147,5194,59%168,73108,20%12,78DSEC L213,19%2,12%5,64%0,00%8,65%60,22%9,86%0,00%
283,10F-101312,01291,6193,46%360,18115,44%48,17F-10111,81%6,95%8,20%5,23%9,04%49,58%8,95%0,00%
303,05Ziplex 5348,96338,3796,97%390,20111,82%41,25Ziplex 515,86%1,73%3,55%5,54%6,80%55,77%10,64%0,00%
303,50Sabad 2256,87254,2498,98%296,77115,54%39,91Sabad 226,53%2,91%1,91%2,75%13,41%45,21%7,26%0,00%
347,30F-102309,77320,96103,61%370,21119,51%60,44F-10238,82%1,70%1,78%4,28%8,91%37,28%7,29%0,00%
390,10F-103365,07404,36110,76%467,33128,01%102,26F-10318,58%2,70%3,75%4,02%8,40%45,29%17,62%0,00%
403,00Ziplex 10265,34366,52138,13%413,41155,80%148,07Ziplex 109,29%1,38%6,93%1,50%5,20%71,26%6,34%0,00%
408,00TM 2364,19349,5995,99%405,60111,37%41,41TM217,05%3,24%5,38%2,15%10,01%55,61%6,35%0,00%
432,90F-104363,83325,1489,37%385,72106,02%21,89F-10412,38%4,20%4,84%3,46%11,30%55,96%6,92%0,37%
472,60F-211363,67414,54113,99%487,51134,05%123,84F-21114,38%3,48%4,26%4,82%8,04%54,92%10,42%0,19%
477,60Ziplex 15310,09379,87122,50%443,92143,16%133,83Ziplex 1510,14%3,70%3,06%3,62%4,60%58,93%15,99%0,53%
522,4F-105367,29360,0298,02%433,37117,99%66,08F-10513,32%5,42%4,90%4,10%9,12%52,88%10,17%0,00%
552,3Ziplex 20206,05304,42147,74%356,50173,02%150,45Ziplex 207,83%2,82%6,99%2,46%19,03%58,18%4,68%0,26%
592F-212255,99257,46100,57%316,14123,50%60,15F-21215,11%5,30%12,46%5,92%12,27%42,46%5,77%0,78%
626,9Ziplex 25262,34230,0687,70%276,89105,55%14,55Ziplex 2512,28%5,26%2,13%4,67%12,71%51,33%10,11%1,22%
631,8F-213313,99344,81109,81%406,83129,57%92,84F-21318,23%3,62%3,85%5,51%6,84%50,44%10,70%1,16%
631,8TM 3345,72427,32123,60%511,87148,06%166,15TM 310,73%3,19%10,38%4,33%16,36%37,90%18,15%0,94%
676,5Emine377,52406,29107,62%485,36128,57%107,84Emine13,71%3,65%4,74%8,18%8,31%47,22%12,85%1,67%
741TM 4214,46203,7495,00%247,50115,41%33,04TM 48,25%6,51%2,84%5,89%6,52%58,08%9,20%2,55%
830,8TM 5159,66149,6993,75%185,96116,47%26,29TM 512,29%9,38%0,75%3,67%6,77%56,89%8,32%1,87%
6853,047161,36104,50%8405,18122,65%1552,15Totall ped981,70217,23294,10271,25618,823255,84652,0531,20
308,321552,151448,37Totall %14,33%3,17%4,29%3,96%9,03%47,51%9,51%0,46%
Minimum TT needed81,85%22,65%
 
Conclusion

My goal here, outside the Alic mission, was and still is Cave sap or Putty because it has a high % and can make the difference in profit/loss.
Alic, Garcen and Typo have been very low in % for quite some time, so I have sold virtually none of them so far and am waiting for an increase.
Magerian can currently be sold at a top price (150%), so it is currently flying out the door.
Nexus ... If you really want this to yield something, it is best to sweat between mining runs, so that it yields more than 101%.

I have also completely banned amps, as they provide many more fillers (low MU resources).
If you prefer to mine amped, it is best not to refine these fillers (this is the highest cost) and simply sell them to the TT to buy probes again.
Keep in mind that this will cause your profit % to drop considerably.

In the meantime I have received a number of questions from miners, here are the most important ones:

Q What if there are multiple miners?
A Just keep mining, this will not affect your return.

Q Do I first drop everything and then extract?
A If there is a hit, I will extract immediately. Someone online didn't do this, her internet provider went out and she lost all her claims. A question about MA yielded no answer. She received the answer that the intention is to extract your claims immediately.

Q Waves?
A I can't call it waves, but rather availability. You can even predict this "availability", and in this case this is when I start mining what I need. And no, I won't reveal how this time :p

Q Big or small runs?
A Really make no difference. My runs are usually just 100-200 drops

Q Do you have to loose first before you get a global/court?
A NO, even though I'm always in +100% return, I also get multipliers and globals/hofs.

Q Can you get an un-amped tower?
A YES, a friend of mine had a 4.6K tower unamped with an F-finder about 2 months ago

And now the next step!!!
LA63 for the Frigulite mission.
 
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Conclusion

My goal here, outside the Alic mission, was and still is Cave sap or Putty because it has a high % and can make the difference in profit/loss.
Alic, Garcen and Typo have been very low in % for quite some time, so I have sold virtually none of them so far and am waiting for an increase.
Magerian can currently be sold at a top price (150%), so it is currently flying out the door.
Nexus ... If you really want this to yield something, it is best to sweat between mining runs, so that it yields more than 101%.

I have also completely banned amps, as they provide many more fillers (low MU resources).
If you prefer to mine amped, it is best not to refine these fillers (this is the highest cost) and simply sell them to the TT to buy probes again.
Keep in mind that this will cause your profit % to drop considerably.

In the meantime I have received a number of questions from miners, here are the most important ones:

Q What if there are multiple miners?
A Just keep mining, this will not affect your return.

Q Do I first drop everything and then extract?
A If there is a hit, I will extract immediately. Someone online didn't do this, her internet provider went out and she lost all her claims. A question about MA yielded no answer. She received the answer that the intention is to extract your claims immediately.

Q Waves?
A I can't call it waves, but rather availability. You can even predict this "availability", and in this case this is when I start mining what I need. And no, I won't reveal how this time :p

Q Big or small runs?
A Really make no difference. My runs are usually just 100-200 drops

Q Do you have to loose first before you get a global/court?
A NO, even though I'm always in +100% return, I also get multipliers and globals/hofs.

Q Can you get an un-amped tower?
A YES, a friend of mine had a 4.6K tower unamped with an F-finder about 2 months ago

And now the next step!!!
LA63 for the Frigulite mission.
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First of all, congratz for completed the 1K Alice mission :)

Tbh, I've learnt so much following your mining log here, it's truly one of the best mining logs in this forum!

Hopefully, you'll do more with the ores mining soon :D

Good luck~
 
wilhb81 said:
First of all, congratz for completed the 1K Alice mission :)

Tbh, I've learnt so much following your mining log here, it's truly one of the best mining logs in this forum!

Hopefully, you'll do more with the ores mining soon :D

Good luck~
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Thank you sooooo much :yay:
As for the ores, already working on it :p LA 63
But as from today ... availability is down for the ores I want to mine, so I'll stick to auction for sales untill it gets better again.
 
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You can play Entropia in different ways, but I chose to go for the win, and from my experience mining is definitely one of them.
A little common sense, knowing how the economy works and patience can take you a long way.

But first a little explanation about my ava.
Started playing together with my BF in 2002 and then already to mine. Years went by, we broke up but I kept playing with the same ava we used.
Then "destiny" struck, because the ava was on my ex's name who, as it turned out, had passed away, so that ava was a thing of the past.
But because I have so many friends here, loved mining, I decided to make a new ava and come back.

How do I mine.
I have decided to mine goal missions (but not daily's) and at the moment I am working on 1K Alicenies @ LA58.
So I will keep mining in the same place until I complete that mission. ;)
Once I have it, the last enmatter unlocks will be released.
The last unlocks will be Garcen, Mage and Typo what I'm also getting on this LA and lyta I'll have to mine somewhere else.


Mining gear
Which finder(s) I use ... let's say I go for diversity .... and I use +20 different finders at the moment, L and UL :sneaky:
Extractors : Demonic excavator (but not for oil/nexus) - Exhumer MK-1
I also carry 2 x RE-101 :D
Refiner : Imperium resourse refiner B1
As you can see, I use mining gear that is available to everyone, and is certainly not expensive.
The only thing I would replace is the refiner for a Transformer T-105 depending the price.
There is very expensive material available that is cheaper to use. I will certainly never buy it. Why not? Because it is always possible that something new drops or new BP comes out that replaces the expensive material and then you lose your investment.

Mining in 3 sections : EDITED 7/10/23
First I'll do some unamped runs with different finders.
Second run will be with pre-amped finders.
Third, I'll use the same finders but will be amped.

I'll cycle the finders from lowest to deepest depth all the time
Here, also the pre-amped will be included.
If I have done 5 runs with a finder, I will start amped runs with that finder, starting with amp 1 and going up if results are good. Mind you, if I really get too much oil in the return, fewer resources that have a decent %, or loosing, I stop amped and go back to unamped or use a lower amp again.
Because I did not buy all the finders at once, a particular finder may only be tested with amps later.
If the results of a particular finder is so bad that I keep making losses, testing with that finder stops.

Skils
Do skills matter? NO
No matter what finder (if maxed) you use at any level, the results stay the same.
Skills are only important if you want to mine for more rare enm/ores that are deeper, cause you need a higher level finder that goes deeper, but you get the same results with UL finders and depth enhancers at lower lvl.

Sales of resources and economics
In this part of Entropia it is decided how much profit or loss you will make.
ALL prices go up and down regarding availability, so I stock up if needed and try to sell as high as possible for the highest profit. 💲
This means that I wait until my resources can only sell at a minimum fixed price determined by me and higher if possible, but never lower.
I do some calculation that I think is marketable, but in the beginning with the highest possible profit margin.
This is especially important for the fillers. You know that the sales % is low, but due to the large amount you receive during your runs, this price is very important. If your stock becomes too high because you are selling too slowly, lower your price a bit and create different stacks with different quantities and test the sales.
Also, your return is based on your avatar's profit/loss in TT, so sell cheap and cut your own profit.

Taxes on LA's
Depending how you mine, if you look at the numbers, mining on a LA with taxes will make it a lot more difficult for you to make profit.

My mining goals besides fun :
1) Making profit
2) Doing planet missions (no dailies)
3) Checking different finders + also pre-amped
4) Checking different amps

My way of mining
Along the way, I want to show that you can make a profit with any finder, as long as you max the finder and completely independent of your skills.
As soon as you start using pre-amped / amped mining, the profit percentage will decrease because you get more fillers (low % resources) in your returns.
I never do double/triple drops, just single drops between 50-100 ped/run for enmatters, or up to 200 ped/run for ores. No need to do bigger runs to get multipliers/globals ... and you still will have profit. Once I sold enough to do another run, I'll go mining, it's that simple. Somethimes it takes a few hours, somethimes a few day's ... be patience.
Between runs you can go and try to find fruits, sweat for the nexus you mining to sell essence or start trading ... Even as a noob you can make 10-20 ped / day easy.
If I go for 1K enmatter, I have to stock most of it, especially fillers, all depending on how much % I can sell it (economy)
Once my goal has been achieved, I will aim for 1K ores missions. This way I can slowly but surely sell my enmatter stock.

So be smart, stock up, calculate the % you want for resources first and decide for yourself how much profit you want to make when selling.

That's about it for now.
Time for some results.
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You hang on to ores/enm until the price is right to sell/ stack big enough. How much ped do you need to achieve this orestacking?
 
Spawn said:
You hang on to ores/enm until the price is right to sell/ stack big enough. How much ped do you need to achieve this orestacking?
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You actually control the price yourself, depending on your pedcard of course.
And just to be clear, I work with a 5-digit pedcard where I sometimes had difficulty stocking with enmatters that are the cheapest to mine and I often survived by selling oil and mind essence, which made me sweat and the ME selling for 123.55% net.

Look at the total I spent for the 1K alic.
Total 6853 ped. If you add to that the fact that I have more than 1K peds worth of finders.... for enmatters ... depending where you gonna mine and what resources are there.

What I mainly do is, for example, not sell anything for the first 500 ped drops and calculate what minimum % I need (including decay/costs/fee) to achieve a break even, which I will then adjust in different stacks and after looking at the market value over an entire year.
IMO it is not only mining that is important as a miner but also knowing the market.
The higher you set the bar, and by this I mean the more % you ask, the longer you will probably have to wait for the sale.

Look especially at the fillers, oil in this case, of which I still have a large stock but sell them regularly.
That oil amounts to 47.51% of all enmatters, so it is certainly not unimportant to sell this with a %, in my case 107.59% net. 3455.83 ped * 107.59% = 3718.13 ped which gave me a profit of 262.30 ped and which I am still selling. This is very underrated and conveniently…

With a smaller pedcard you might be better off not refining (largest cost) and selling it in the TT at a loss of a lot of %.

Think of it as your own store where you keep mining resources (cause that is the fun part) and sell cheap ... not counting extraction, refining, decay... and then complain that you are loosing ... and ofc blame MA ... It's all HOW you play the game.
Every miner will have to take breaks to sell his stock at the right time, following the economy because everything does indeed go up and down in % .

Another option is to sell at a small %, but then it will result in small profits.

The higher the profits, the faster you will grow ;) the more stock ... a circle ...
 
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I would like to provide a few words of explanation about what is currently involved in mining on Caly.

Since the start of the gold rush event, the return (TT) has gone down.
Ore was so volatile that I thought there was an amp on my finder... such high ups and downs with usually a lot of loss at the end of the run. I'm going to wait to mine ores until after the MM event.
So I stopped ore mining @ LA 63.

Enmatter continued to give normal returns.
That's why today I'm trying to mine enmatter again, also because I still can finish the 100 missions for garcen, magerian and typo.
This week's update(s) also fixed this... where you now get about 80-85% TT return.
Thanks to the high % at which I sell and stock, I can end the run today with 1 ped profit after sales ... :rolleyes:

Last week I was mining on Ark, which gave better returns and less fillers but still normal amounts of the better resources both enmatter and ores.
Next week I will go back to Ark to restock auction there and see if these have also been adjusted.

I can do 2 things now...
Keep mining and possibly take the loss and hope that one day I get something back or continue to play it safe and not mine.
I choose the latest and compare it to buying a lotto ticket... keep buying and EVER I will win... I never count on that.
Globals and hofs that I have received in the past were extras, never to close a hole!!!
 
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Just my 2 pec.
Your "luck" will never improve.
Unless you do hunting/crafting on a side that you are not including in this log, and TT numbers dont drag your mining back to average, those returns will continue till you even out.
 
The Mind said:
Just my 2 pec.
Your "luck" will never improve.
Unless you do hunting/crafting on a side that you are not including in this log, and TT numbers dont drag your mining back to average, those returns will continue till you even out.
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"Luck" doesn't exist imo :unsure: It's all about algorithm
Thank you, but I always have around 100-105% TT return, all costs included. Even now I'm above 100% TT return and I want to keep it that way ;)
I write down all of my runs, HR's, TT returns, after sales ... so easy to compare.
For me this is just a bad mining period, and not only for me, most friends mining have the same results so they also stop and wait.
Doing some small hunting runs now and they end positive
 
Leeloo Miner said:
I would like to provide a few words of explanation about what is currently involved in mining on Caly.
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Chin up! Sounds like it's just variance doing its thing. If i go back through my mining and i parse a squence of 10.000 drops (or loot events) i end up at 95% with very small divergence. Running at 100%+ tt will sort itself out at some point, sadly... but at the same time running at 80% will also sort itself out at some point. So hang in there! Just keep recording the data and you can use it to motivate yourself... and quite often know about exactly when your'e about to get the stick lol.
 
The Mind said:
So you hunt with TT profit also?
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Believe it or not, but on Proto drones I have 108,76% TT return :p

Tried this eve in team with a soccie and we both did over 100% ...

Then we ended up doing drones and got a global lol
 
0 Garcen / 0 Magerian / 50 Typo​

Still getting a lot of oil, but seems the rest is getting back also.

Cost (all decay/MU included) 7192,91 Ped
Net TT return 7540,31 Ped : 104,83%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 8725,76 Ped : 121,31%
Profit/Loss so far : 1532,85 Ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,43%

DpthCost netTTTT+%SalesSales+%Profit/lossAlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
204,00MD-10309,58310,18100,19%348,08112,44%38,50MD-1014,25%1,26%6,52%3,06%7,71%61,46%5,75%
204,00Demonic311,10265,4885,34%296,1395,19%-14,97Demonic16,89%0,59%3,44%2,35%13,04%57,50%5,59%
205,00TM1313,61309,1898,59%340,57108,60%26,96TM 113,29%0,00%4,59%2,18%8,50%61,28%10,09%
213,90DSEC L2155,95147,5194,59%166,03106,47%10,08DSEC L213,19%2,12%5,64%0,00%8,65%60,22%9,86%
283,10F-101312,01291,6193,46%355,79114,03%43,78F-10111,81%6,95%8,20%5,23%9,04%49,58%8,95%
303,05Ziplex 5348,96338,3796,97%384,47110,18%35,51Ziplex 515,86%1,73%3,55%5,54%6,80%55,77%10,64%
303,50Sabad 2256,87254,2498,98%293,28114,18%36,42Sabad 226,53%2,91%1,91%2,75%13,41%45,21%7,26%
347,30F-102309,77320,96103,61%366,58118,34%56,81F-10238,82%1,70%1,78%4,28%8,91%37,28%7,29%
390,10F-103365,07404,36110,76%461,76126,49%96,69F-10318,58%2,70%3,75%4,02%8,40%45,29%17,62%
403,00Ziplex 10265,34366,52138,13%405,47152,81%140,13Ziplex 109,29%1,38%6,93%1,50%5,20%71,26%6,34%
408,00TM 2364,19349,5995,99%399,69109,75%35,50TM217,05%3,24%5,38%2,15%10,01%55,61%6,35%
432,90F-104363,83325,1489,37%380,19104,50%16,36F-10412,38%4,20%4,84%3,46%11,30%55,96%6,92%0,37%
472,60F-211363,67414,54113,99%480,59132,15%116,92F-21114,38%3,48%4,26%4,82%8,04%54,92%10,42%0,19%
477,60Ziplex 15310,09379,87122,50%437,11140,96%127,02Ziplex 1510,14%3,70%3,06%3,62%4,60%58,93%15,99%0,53%
522,4F-105367,29360,0298,02%427,59116,42%60,30F-10513,32%5,42%4,90%4,10%9,12%52,88%10,17%
552,3Ziplex 20206,05304,42147,74%351,11170,40%145,06Ziplex 207,83%2,82%6,99%2,46%19,03%58,18%4,68%0,26%
592F-212255,63257,46100,71%312,82122,37%57,18F-21215,11%5,30%12,48%5,92%12,27%42,46%5,77%0,78%
626,9Ziplex 25262,34230,0687,70%273,30104,18%10,96Ziplex 2512,28%5,26%2,13%4,67%12,71%51,33%10,11%1,22%
631,8F-213313,99344,81109,81%401,55127,88%87,56F-21318,23%3,62%3,85%5,51%6,84%50,44%10,70%1,16%
631,8TM 3399,78495,77124,01%584,44146,19%184,67TM 311,28%2,91%8,98%4,29%14,91%38,45%20,12%0,81%
676,5Emine446,19494,82110,90%575,95129,08%129,76Emine11,42%3,39%4,01%6,72%7,36%54,28%11,52%1,70%
741TM 4280,46253,2390,29%304,77108,67%24,31TM 46,99%6,93%3,17%5,23%7,78%57,72%9,77%2,05%
830,8TM 5311,16322,17103,54%378,51121,64%67,35TM 57,98%4,72%3,25%4,19%7,60%53,78%17,23%1,37%
7192,917540,31104,83%8725,76121,31%1532,85Totall ped1000,75225,42305,80283,25646,293477,13728,1034,40
347,401532,851448,37Totall %13,91%3,13%4,25%3,94%8,99%48,34%10,12%0,48%
Minimum TT needed82,43%
 
A-Bomb said:
Chin up! Sounds like it's just variance doing its thing. If i go back through my mining and i parse a squence of 10.000 drops (or loot events) i end up at 95% with very small divergence. Running at 100%+ tt will sort itself out at some point, sadly... but at the same time running at 80% will also sort itself out at some point. So hang in there! Just keep recording the data and you can use it to motivate yourself... and quite often know about exactly when your'e about to get the stick lol.
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I think the TT return depends a bit on the server where you are going to mine.
Whatever the TT return is on certain servers, the most important thing is that you calculate what you have after the sale.
And when the TT goes down on certain servers, sooner or later multipliers will pop up :)

For example, if you look at my results from the dianthus server on Arkadia, where so far I have a TT return of 91.29% TT return, but due to the high % of Dianthus you can make up for this.

When I look at other servers, where you have a lot of fillers, for example, it is easier to achieve +100% TT return.
Analyzes of different servers say a lot, but of course the market also plays a role + adjustments that MA makes.

But the most important thing is where everything is located, such that you can mine and stock when the % is low, I think there is more to find then, and sell when the price is high.
All this also goes together with the events when there is more demand for certain resources.

From January 2024 I will post monthly returns that you can compare on all planets where I will mine.
This will bring a lot of clarity to what I mean by difference in servers.

This is the start of a very long mining journey across different planets but a lot of fun :)
 
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2024​


Received a PM today from someone who was working on his Alic mission because the general return of LA is 13.91% for 2023.

So I just did a run because I'm also looking for Magerian and Typo for my missions on that LA

And here the result after 100 drops : Alic 7,73% or ... 2 claims !!!

AlicCave sapGarcenMagerianNexusOilTypoVegatation
2,70008,3322,531,350
7,73%0,00%0,00%0,00%23,86%64,54%3,87%0,00%
 
Thankyou for posting all these posts Leeloo.. At last something just clicked in my head..... But this is not the thread for this discussion...
 
R4tt3xx said:
Thankyou for posting all these posts Leeloo.. At last something just clicked in my head..... But this is not the thread for this discussion...
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Please say, even if neg or pos.
This thread is not only to inform or let you know my results but we can discuss things also.
 
R4tt3xx: I have a new theory
Leeloo: Please share

You... have read his previous posts, yes?
No? Oh dear.
 
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