Poll: Feedback on Mining/PVP event!

[ViagraFalls]

Hiya.

As you all most likely are aware of, LaVF events launched a mining/PvP event for the remainder of the year.

We're very interested in hearing your opinions, ways we could possibly improve it, etc.

Please elaborate on your answers; we are trying to come up with the perfect formula to create a well-balanced event for both the uber and the noobie socs.

Thank you in advance

 

[MindStar9]

I voted ... "More focus on mining, less focus on PVP"

First let me say that I think this is an awesome event ... I love the concept and how it was designed ... BUT

Everything in the rules speak about this being a mining/pk event ... not a mining/hunting/pk event ... therefore I have some thoughts to bring into the mix that hopefully will be accepted as some critical thinking on my part, and not from a position of complaining or whining in any way ... this is my perspective.

As indicated above ... everything in the rules state this to be a mining/pk event ... for example: (and I'm mostly paraphrasing here)

"score mining globals"
"others can level advantage by PK'ing your miners"
"protect your best miners"
"beware of driller killers"
"mercenaries cannot be hired to hunt or protect miners"
"if a miner was killed ..."
"there's no distinguishing between miner or bodyguard"
"the pics in the original post even show VF and Lykke holding mining equipment"

I mention these things bcuz ... there has been a barrage of PK'ers roaming the domes and taking anyone out who's on a registered team in this contest whether or not they're mining.

Case in point ... Moonie and I were in Dome 13 one evening enjoying our usual bery hunt ... not mining ... Moonie was killed by a critical hit from a bery stalker, and I was left to battle it out with the stalker, as well as a prowler who joined in the fun.

I was doing just fine with the stalker who was almost dead when all of a sudden I took a big hit ... I thought it was the stalker and prowler doing it to me. I tried to fap (I have a 2600 and it wks fine), but then one more hit and I was dead. It wasn't until after I looked in the chat window to see if I had gotten a critical that I noticed that the berys did nothing to me, but rather "Skalman" had PK'd me. I discovered later that he had taken a pic thru his scope and had it posted at the EF forum to render a -1 against JetStar Alliance in this competition.

I have NO issue whatsoever getting PK'd during this event, and I want that to be clear... I understand that all 20 domes are PK, and I understand that in this event, a participating person takes a risk getting PK'd this first go 'round in domes 6-20. I think the PK aspect of the event makes it more exciting and heart-thumping when you see green dots enter the dome, and anyone who knows me, knows that I'm always up for an adrenaline rush.

The issue I have is this ... all along it's been called a mining/pk event, but it quickly turned into what I feel to be more of a PK event, and that mining globals are secondary.

My understanding was, from what I read of the original post ... that "miners" and their "bodyguards" could be taken out and that each would render points for the team taking them out. Fair enough ... I don't have a problem with that AT all, BUT ...

What's happened here is ... PK'ers are coming into domes and taking players out whether they're mining or not, and I really don't feel that it feeds into the spirit of this contest.

A point was made to me that it would have been difficult to know whether or not someone was mining ... my response to that is ... perhaps it could have been part of the original rules that pics only counted if there was proof that the person was mining, such as mining equipment in hand (maybe not always visible), or a claim rod up. It clearly states that the person cannot be PK'd a 2nd time after going bk to their claim, and would have to be allowed to extract that claim.

Personally ... I am disenchanted with how this is turning out, bcuz I was really looking forward to the challenge, as well as getting some mining skills in. I was ready to be PK'd while mining, and willing to continue in that vein, BUT ... it seems to have turned into a PK event without regard to whether you're mining or not.

If Skalman hadn't been in a soc that was registered as part of the event, then a straight-up PK while I was hunting would have been just that, and I wouldn't have had an issue with it at all, and rather honored to say the least bcuz it was Skalman, but the pic was posted in order to "level advantage" as the rules state, however ... mining had nothing to do with it.

I'm interested in seeing how the poll turns out, and what others have to say. It will also be interesting to see if the poll results match what will be shared in this thread.

I have nothing but sincere wishes for success with this event, and VF and Lykke know how much I adore them and support their every effort, but ... anyone who knows my reputation at these forums also knows that I'm one to be a critical thinker, as well as one to objectively give a perspective regardless of associations. My goal is to be as considerately constructive with my input as possible so that it has some kind of substance and value.

Here's to an awesome event continuing in the vein it was meant to be ...

 

[Manta]

I really like it the way it is now. I just wish I could actually global while mining to get the CoL back into positive figures

 

[Blood Moon]

I too think this event is awsome. I think that the focus of the Mining/PK'ing is unclear. As I see it now, there are two separate events happening here. A mining global event and an open season PK'ing event. I dont see the correlation between the two.

Of the first 29 kills, 22 of which were by Warants, there is no evidence that the player PK'd was involved in mining (i.e., claim rod or mining tools).

Also, in two of these kills, the players were clearly engaged in hunting MOBs and not mining at all. One poor fellow didn't even get to loot 2 of his MOBs. The rules clearly state, PK the miner and/or the bodyguards who are protecting the miner.

I have no issue with the PK factor as it was originally intended for this event but feel that PK'ing has taken on a life of its own outside the scope of the event.

As stated before, I think this is an awsome event, and VF and Lykke know that I am one of their greatest supporters, so I hope that this event will continue in the spirit in which it was meant with a great deal of success.

Keep It Fun

 

[CycoKick]

Just get the lines more clear between what is counting and what isnt as PKing.

 

[MrWizard]

I could be wrong, but from what I read over at RealityPort, this competition has been put on hold due to lack of interest. Lykke or VF, please feel free to elaborate....

 

[Lykke]

That is true, MrWizard. But still - it would be great to hear some feedback on the events - both negative and positive - for the sake of futuring events!

And even though CND's big events are on hold, LaVF (=Lykke and ViagraFalls) is still making events for fun on both CND and Calypso - and other people can use our experiences too!

All information and opinions about these events (and events in generally) are therefore very much appriciated!

Thanks
Lykke

 

[Fiona Simmons]

Hm free advise to the ones who recive something for their engagement in this event and should break their brains how to improve it ...

But ok here my thoughts
I dont like this Event for 2 Reasons. On mining everyone is equal in the chances to find a big depo - good. But on the other side some societys have a clearly advantage over a major part of the other participants. So i expect to know the end result without the event allready ended. I see no reason to participate because my chances are next to nothing and the chances of the most others who not stick to a few choosen socs too. And a Event over 12 Months is too long for my taste. Compared with Akoz Events and i have no doubts where i go and spend my peds. Yeah i know there monthly prices on cnd but its not the same. I also dont say a word against this über socs like Warrants. Its not their fault this Event is not really interessting for me its more the organisators fault by missing to add rules to make it interessting for as mutch people as possible.


A way to "improve" this event would be

Limit the Armor, Limit the Allowed Gun and disalow fapping in pvp.
The gun rule can easy monitored because the killed by with xxx gun message.
The Armor and Fap rule can monitored by Screenshoots someone have to make when he feel the other dont follow the rules. Übers still had advantages because they have better dodge skills, better aim and more hitpoints but it where not completly impossible to survive an attack. It should also reduce the rambo type of Minerkiller and force to do group raids to have enough firepower to kill a miner bevore he run out the allowed pk zone.

This are my thoughts about the event and my suggestions how to make it more interessting for me and maybe for others too.

 

[Lykke]

Hm free advise to the ones who recive something for their engagement in this event and should break their brains how to improve it ...

But ok here my thoughts
I dont like this Event for 2 Reasons. On mining everyone is equal in the chances to find a big depo - good. But on the other side some societys have a clearly advantage over a major part of the other participants. So i expect to know the end result without the event allready ended. I see no reason to participate because my chances are next to nothing and the chances of the most others who not stick to a few choosen socs too. And a Event over 12 Months is too long for my taste. Compared with Akoz Events and i have no doubts where i go and spend my peds. Yeah i know there monthly prices on cnd but its not the same. I also dont say a word against this über socs like Warrants. Its not their fault this Event is not really interessting for me its more the organisators fault by missing to add rules to make it interessting for as mutch people as possible.


A way to "improve" this event would be

Limit the Armor, Limit the Allowed Gun and disalow fapping in pvp.
The gun rule can easy monitored because the killed by with xxx gun message.
The Armor and Fap rule can monitored by Screenshoots someone have to make when he feel the other dont follow the rules. Übers still had advantages because they have better dodge skills, better aim and more hitpoints but it where not completly impossible to survive an attack. It should also reduce the rambo type of Minerkiller and force to do group raids to have enough firepower to kill a miner bevore he run out the allowed pk zone.

This are my thoughts about the event and my suggestions how to make it more interessting for me and maybe for others too.

Very interesting indeed This is exactly that kind of information that makes it valuable for us and others who wish to make events!

We are not interested in opinions just to show or start an argument about who is wrong or who is right. But whoelse can give us constructive solutions and ideas than the people who experiensed it on their own "body" or choose not to of some reason!

Thanks Fiona

 

[Zhorgul]

I think something is missing ... Why is there so little interest to CND events atm ?

I for one know that the money gain can motivate but is not something revolutionnary and especialy it motivtes on short term ...


There is a huge potential on CND and maybe u'll like this idea :

something like THe PE olympic Games : make it fun, make it hard, make it for everyone !
a Major event as popular as Land grab ! More for the fame than the money ! Because we know that the fame count more than the money into events (of course there will be some prize for sure)


activities could be :
snabels resisting
Snabels powerfisting
fruit grabing
mining / Hunting
Pking
race
boxing
fat race (heavy dudes ^^)
clue race (severals enigms being solved leads to the good biodome or appartment at good coords to meet some goal)

Each contest would require only one participant (or a team for team contest) per soc ... the goal is to promote the soc, to seek fame so it could be nice to have a PE olympic Website showing all the winners ! glory !

with records to break some cash prize etc. And the names of the winners spread on the website for eternity !

 

[Lykke]

I think something is missing ... Why is there so little interest to CND events atm ?

I for one know that the money gain can motivate but is not something revolutionnary and especialy it motivtes on short term ...

There is a huge potential on CND and maybe u'll like this idea :
......
activities could be :
snabels resisting
Snabels powerfisting
fruit grabing
mining / Hunting
Pking
race
boxing
fat race (heavy dudes ^^)
clue race (severals enigms being solved leads to the good biodome or appartment at good coords to meet some goal)

..... !

That is really fun ideas you come up with there - and worth trying out too And you could even let it go further - like making it on CND, Amethera and Eudoria. The 3 winners could go to a final round to be the champion of Calypso

 

[Zhorgul]

Especially that with the event system it makes it easyer ... still for some others activities it would needs referees.

I think it could be a major event if everyone is involved ... You are right ... TI could be a playground for it too .. All Amethera etc. or even calypso.

we can even have a swimming contest in it or whatever it could be nice yes.