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This game had no real cash aspect and return was always 120-150%? These are the sources of EU complaining. If you would play then you might as well quit, and if you wouldn't play, don't complain :)
 
Zenzile said:
This game had no real cash aspect and return was always 120-150%? These are the sources of EU complaining. If you would play then you might as well quit, and if you wouldn't play, don't complain :)
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no, I would not play. This game doesn't offer anything intriguing (gameplay wise) really and the real money factor is what makes this game really unique. Otherwise, I can play more extensive games like Skyrim or others and have fun that way because the model you described means subscription based and gold farming :)
 
We play for the lure of that ATH HOF! We play for the probability that we might loot something unique and rare with value. We invest RL money to be able to grind, craft and mine to achieve the above goals. We invest in equipment that makes the process cheaper and more eco, we are up against a company that trys to thwart our investments at every turn, but we like the old gold prospectors of yester year, will through rain, snow, shine grind until our mouse fingers bleed in a quest to be rich and uber. So no, the game will never ever move away from the RCE, way to much money would be lost.
 
Zenzile said:
This game had no real cash aspect and return was always 120-150%? These are the sources of EU complaining. If you would play then you might as well quit, and if you wouldn't play, don't complain :)
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How do you get a return of 120-150% if there's no investment? This scenario is flawed. :girl:
 
Zenzile said:
This game had no real cash aspect and return was always 120-150%? These are the sources of EU complaining. If you would play then you might as well quit, and if you wouldn't play, don't complain :)
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Return is always 120 - 150 %... just not to participants...
 
NO the REAL CASH economy is the ONLY REASON i play :D

and only GAME i play is this one!!!!!!
 
No! I play this game because it is a real cash game and the fact that it is a difficult game to play:wise:.. And of course !! for all my friends I have in game :yup::yup:
 
i might have tried it but quit quite fast if it wasnt rce.. im not too big fan of grinding in other games but here its different
 
RCE is all this game has going for it so no i wouldn't bother playing if it became a chat program.
 
A better questions would be...

If there was any other quality rce game, would you still play EU?
 
Farmer Smurf said:
A better questions would be...

If there was any other quality rce game, would you still play EU?
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Yep, because I'm positively sure that any RCE game would be liable to the same flaws, starting will very limited userbase, so why change bad for worse :)
 
hmmmm good question, but probably not.
it would be too easy, I would allready made a million ped and would not know that to do further, would be able to buy all gear -> no dreams left
EU is a challenge and that is what it is all about.
in other MMORPG everybody is getting rich and richer, how boring is that!?
 
My Answer : No

All people who answered in this thread so far are honest by admiting they are after all after money here. All saying they are just for fun are either hipocrytes ( from reasons stated in above posts like beter non RCE fun from other games etc. ) or tiny minority - kinda odds flux


Being after Money in RCE game is like question about masturbation.... 95% of ppl is doing it and rest 5% is lying about not doing it :D
 
People play Poker online with play chips. So I think there would be still some peeps here playing EU with ("play chips").

However I ain't one of them.:laugh:
 
Tough for me to answer a hypothetical., but I will say this., The game to me is an extravagant form of gambling. I am a gambler at heart so that I think is the biggest lure for me. I also think the game has a lot of appeal to it even outside of that., the real money/gambling aspect aside this game seems to encompass almost every genre, the thing is it all costs money to do. Then theirs the social hierarchy aspect to the game where the haves like to show off their uber gear, customizations, etc to show off their deep pockets. Calling someone a noob is like calling them poor. This appeals to the rich nerds.

The problem I have with this game right now and I'm on the fence atm as to whether to continue playing or not is that MA only seems to care about retaining the rich nerds and that as long as they have enough of the rest of us for them to play with the rich nerds are who pays their bills. This is evidenced by the events as well as pretty much anytime the rest of us put in a support case., they really dont care if they lose the common player. They figure the turnover is an acceptable loss so long as the rich ones are happy.

In under 2 months of play time Ive deposited something like $700 and would continue to if not for the blatant middle fingers Ive recieved in 2 support cases ive filed. I even told them they risk losing the thousands in deposits over my play time if they dont reconsider their decisions. Like I said the low and midlevel depositors dont mean anything to them. Which seems to be a self destructive policy if you ask me. The game could be so much more if they changed this attitude.
 
NO no nonononononono no .. to short ... no :)
 
Svarog said:
Yep, because I'm positively sure that any RCE game would be liable to the same flaws, starting will very limited userbase, so why change bad for worse :)
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not at all, if the game was constructed differently there is no reason the same flaws would be there. there might be different flaws of course, but the central problem for EU is that its sold as a real cash economy, when really its a game economy that happens to be using cash. its fundementally unbalanced, with no value to the vast majority of items and every activity is a cash sink. a very few will "profit" most of who would have done the same if they spent the same money on short odds sports betting or online poker.

it does have one other thing going for it - fricking lasers in an MMORPG. too many are dungeons and dragons, a turn off from some (me). its a shame that in recent years they've not capitalised on this, sidelining Land Grab and i dont know what the hell pumpkins has to do with any of the lore.
 
No. It's the RCE factor that makes EU special compared to other games. The RCE is pretty much the purpose of the game, even if I loose money like hell on it :silly2:
 
Nope not at all, way too hard to learn and way too boring in the beginning after the new and amazement of the graphics wears off. Having said that there are things that are fun other than the money (which is by far in first place) like the graphics, the people you meet and the satisfaction when you go up a level in your chosen profession. Also there is the thrill of looting something that is very rare particularly if its worth something. Some of those items aren't really worth much and you can't use them because of the level requirement (you are level 50 and the whatever is level 100) or because they are a weapon like 30 damage at 33 shots per second and it is unlimited:). But if your are getting some good loot, not getting rich but able to play a while without the deposit, that is some fun, for me anyway. One other thing is the big swirl even if it is only 133 ped, at least for moment anyway:).
 
I would play EU in a non-RCE environment.

Pay a monthly fee and have unlimited (yet untradeable) ammo, and use looted stuff as a pool of money to buy stuff.
I'd pay £50 a month for it. Fixed fee, and no worries or pressure.

It would work as more time played would mean you gain more ped.
But it would have to be structured right, with goals of achieving new bigger items.

Would be funny paying 30 million ped for spaceship. I think it would work well.

Why do I say that?

Well I don't really contribute much now to EU, because I don't want to deposit $200 and it could be gone within a day or two hunting big mobs (I have 311K skills). In fact $200 is nothing once you bought a big L gun and fap, your have about $150 of ammo. My heart is not into that anymore.

So I say load up some servers and take my £50.

Rick.
 
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RickEngland said:
I would play EU in a non-RCE environment.

Pay a monthly fee and have unlimited (yet untradeable) ammo, and use looted stuff as a pool of money to buy stuff.
I'd pay £50 a month for it. Fixed fee, and no worries or pressure.

It would work as more time played would mean you gain more ped.
But it would have to be structured right, with goals of achieving new bigger items.

Would be funny paying 30 million ped for spaceship. I think it would work well.

Why do I say that?

Well I don't really contribute much now to EU, because I don't want to deposit $200 and it could be gone within a day or two hunting big mobs (I have 311K skills). In fact $200 is nothing once you bought a big L gun and fap, your have about $150 of ammo. My heart is not into that anymore.

So I say load up some servers and take my £50.

Rick.
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I don't agree with the "would play anyway" part as I said above but I see exactly what you are saying about the big gun and fap. Although I am not quite as high as you ( around 220K skills) I did suffer the fate you are talking about. I hit a 1.5K HOF and then a few days later a 2.3k plus many globals (had 87 gbls and HOFs in 1 week) along the way. Within about 2 weeks I had to depo and did 200 USD just like you said and just like you said it was gone in a couple of days. So I found a better way, I now hunt much smaller mobs where a 150 pedder is a joyous time :). I dropped from 13th to 314th in the standing and guess what it is just as fun as it ever was. I have had a couple of 600 ped HOFs and quite a few less than 200 ped globals but like I said the fun is back. I did loot an item that I sold for 3550 ped and still have about 2K left. My runs are small as are the mobs but now it less about the money than the fun I am having. If I get the lucky one I will again try the big mobs because I do like them but until then I am just having fun the old fashion way:).
 
nope nothing to keep me engaged in game play and nothing to gain from playing, main reason i dont play other games much unless someone else buys them for me
 
As long as there hope and seeing ATH HoF and global in chats, people will stay until they reach a certain point of frustration about the game.
 
Magyar_Republic said:
How do you get a return of 120-150% if there's no investment? This scenario is flawed. :girl:
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Yes, this.

Would one play anything in life with a sure thing? That is the question answered above.

Obviously not, but a near thing? or a thing that might give some return? yes.

EU only makes sense when you think of it as a throw of the dice, otherwise we are in the realms of delusion.

We play because we like to throw dice, which is fine. This reply is not directed to you Magyar of course, since you are as aware as I.
 
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