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    In Space no one can hear you moan & whine

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoNi View Post
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    Well exactly that is why space is PvP.

    PP should not get players from other players, they should advertise their planet, so new players create an account at that planet.

    That was the original idea of Mindark. PP bring in new players, not PP get old players from other planets, that exist a long time.
    This is true.. I think this was the intention.

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    Trying to prevent being stolen is an exploit? puff

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    the logout "exploit" will be fixed the day we get cargo missions. so about never

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    Quote Originally Posted by Me Really Never View Post
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    the logout "exploit" will be fixed the day we get cargo missions. so about never
    Aaaaahhhh the Cargo Missions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan View Post
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    This will not fix the economy considering majority of transactions are done on Caly.
    They should just implement planet to planet teleporters already, get rid of the damn pirates.

    Or better yet, implement the function where pirates cannot go back into safe space for an hour after shooting someone down.....make it fair to everyone!
    Calypso should be moved to the middle of the universe. Also if you go up to space you should enter IT at a Geographical correct position. You should only end up at the spacestation if you ascend from port Atlantis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawn View Post
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    Calypso should be moved to the middle of the universe. Also if you go up to space you should enter IT at a Geographical correct position. You should only end up at the spacestation if you ascend from port Atlantis.
    Absolutely No! That like saying Earth should be at the center of our solar system. The sun should be at the center.

    Absolutely Yes! You should enter the space around a planet based on where you leave the planet. To further that point, flying around the Ark Moon, instead of landing, shows what is possible.

    Peace, Miles
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoNi View Post
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    Transport stackables safe:

    Offer a stack at auction Planet A
    Fly to planet B (nothing to lose, no stackables in inventory) f.u. pirate, nothing to gain from me
    Arrive at Planet B, take buyout of your offer at Planet A, pay 3 PED transport fee, thats it (all safe!)

    No need to logout exploit xD

    Who still didnīt learn that and still use MS service to be safe (what in fact isnīt safe at all), just fail !

    The only reason to use MS service - warp is faster!
    Does this still work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by safara View Post
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    Does this still work?
    Yes. However, removal of the lootable PVP between the SS and the planet made warps cheaper, too - as you don't need to pay 7 ped for tp but can fly down instead.

    Hence, using auction is only worth it if you have few big stacks of stuff. It's typically done by listing your stuff on the minor planet at optimistic prices and when it (most likely) expires, retrieving it from Caly.

    Let's break it down:

    Auction:
    min 0.50 listing fee (likely more because you need to set the SB reasonably high)
    2.00 ped slow retrieval fee
    = min 2.50 ped/stack

    Warp:
    10.00 ped scheduled warp
    0.10 ped thruster to fly down (~150% MU)
    negligible amount of oil
    = max 10.20 ped regardless of the number of stacks

    Thus, for three or fewer stacks auction will do if you haven't listed anything yet; or if you have five or fewer stacks already expired on the local auction.
    There are many ways to skin a cat but just one way to boil a frog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruto Rat View Post
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    Yes. However, removal of the lootable PVP between the SS and the planet made warps cheaper, too - as you don't need to pay 7 ped for tp but can fly down instead.

    Hence, using auction is only worth it if you have few big stacks of stuff. It's typically done by listing your stuff on the minor planet at optimistic prices and when it (most likely) expires, retrieving it from Caly.

    Let's break it down:

    Auction:
    min 0.50 listing fee (likely more because you need to set the SB reasonably high)
    2.00 ped slow retrieval fee
    = min 2.50 ped/stack

    Warp:
    10.00 ped scheduled warp
    0.10 ped thruster to fly down (~150% MU)
    negligible amount of oil
    = max 10.20 ped regardless of the number of stacks

    Thus, for three or fewer stacks auction will do if you haven't listed anything yet; or if you have five or fewer stacks already expired on the local auction.
    Or just slow boat in quad or v.t.o.l. around maps edge to stay mostly in non lootable for a few peds less

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