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Impact on professions of chipping skills

Let's put a nail in that metallurgy/mining coffin

Metallurgy:

Level before: 290.17
Level after: 1.24
Chip tt: 0.41 peds

Professions affected:

Metal Engineer 7.16 -> 6.78

That is all.


I used NRF to measure the levels before and after; don't really care to upload all the screenies manually.
 
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Dale said:
can't say i've ever noticed a perc gain when nerve blasting, so it seems consistent.

Perception-loot is an old wives tale anyways... ;)
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Cheers for the confirmation Dale, and yeah you're probably right. But I'm always so convinced perception appears to be partly location based lol. Then again last night I got about 3 billion of them and still I can't see myself on top of the ATH list.... :D

Doer said:
Metallurgy:

Level before: 290.17
Level after: 1.24
Chip tt: 0.41 peds

Professions affected:

Metal Engineer 7.16 -> 6.78

That is all.


I used NRF to measure the levels before and after; don't really care to upload all the screenies manually.
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Ah nice one Doer. So that's Metal Engineer 13%.
 
Can confirm Combat reflexes has no effect on any of the mindforce skills

(well, taking out 200 levels did nothing...)
 
This will be the last from me for a while as I don't deposit much and want to hunt a bit more :)

Here's Marksmanship for ya.

The Chip



The skills

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Pro Standings before MMS implant

 
Pro Standings after MMS implant



Having not read other threads I was surprised to see Dmg go up as well as Hit. Surprised in a nice way that is. But no Hit for psychotropians =/
 
Ano, thx man, have been looking forward to MMS for a long time!!! :cool:

I suspect the percentages will be different to what was thought before, Jimmy get to work :p

+rep on the way :)
 
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Thanks ano. At a glance it looks like Ranged Laser (dmg) is 10% which is already listed on wiki so I presume thats documented here somewhere. We had about 10% for (Hit) too in the pro-standing thread but it looks to me more like 7 or 8% from these screenshots. I'll check the percentages properly later this evening when I get home.
 
No problem EyeContact - glad to be chipping one someone else finds useful :)
 
Marksmanship Results

Apologies for the delay.

The results for Marksmanship are:

All Ranged (Dmg) professions 10%
Psychotropian (Dmg) 10%
Pyrotropian (Dmg) 10%
All Sniper (Hit) professions 8%
All Pistoleer (Hit) professions 7%

All pretty much spot on. The Pro-standing calculation thread takes a bit of a beating on this one :D
 
Animal Taming Summary

Animal Taming chip bought: 0.16 PED priced at 15 PED
Cost to insert: 2 PED
Total cost so far: 353 PED
Total skill gain so far: 2192.14
Total profession gain so far: 11.53

Animal Taming before: 1.00
Animal Taming after: 129.57
Change in Animal Taming: 128.57

Animal Tamer profession level change: 0.484
Impact of Animal Taming = 0.484*100/128.57 = 0.376 = 38%
Pet Handler profession level change: 0.258
Impact of Animal Taming = 0.258*100/128.57 = 0.201 = 20%

Maximum possible error = 0.63%

All other profession level changes: 0

Wiki updated.

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Professions Before Chipping Animal Taming


 
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Professions After Chipping Animal Taming


 
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Inflict Melee Damage Summary

Inflict Melee Damage chip bought: 0.68 PED priced at 32 PED
Cost to insert: 2 PED
Total cost so far: 387 PED
Total skill gain so far: 2329.61
Total profession gain so far: 11.97

Inflict Melee Damage before: 1173.67
Inflict Melee Damage after: 1311.14
Change in Inflict Melee Damage: 137.47

Every Melee (Dmg) profession level change: 0.073
Impact of Inflict Melee Damage = 0.073*100/137.47 = 0.053 = 5%

Maximum possible error = 0.59%

All other profession level changes: 0

Wiki updated.

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Profession levels before chipping IMD are those after chipping Animal Taming.
 
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Professions After Chipping Inflict Melee Damage


 
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Hi Jimmy

Couple of corrections/updates for the summary page at the front...

1) Missed out Brawler on the dexterity chip

2)

Dale said:
Can confirm Combat reflexes has no effect on any of the mindforce skills

(well, taking out 200 levels did nothing...)
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keep up the good work :)
 
I chipped out 1767.99 levels of Animal Lore this week. The change to professional standings was as follows:

Animal Tamer
16.98->12.97 (3.71) 21%

Pet Handler
18.58->11.51 (7.07) 40%

Wiki updated
 
Thanks Dale - well spotted ;)

Thanks Doer, I'll add that in.
 
Scores on the board so far :)

(a little snapshot of how much of each profession has been resolved - conclusion is, still lots of work to do!)

combat
BLP Pistoleer Hit 20%
BLP Sniper Hit 20%
Brawler Dmg 30%
Brawler Hit 52%
Decoy Dispenser 37%
Dodger 27%
Evader 30%
Gauss Sniper Hit 20%
Knifefighter Dmg 5%
Knifefighter Hit 15%
Laser Pistoleer Hit 34%
Laser Sniper Hit 34%
One Handed Clubber Dmg 30%
One Handed Clubber Hit 53%
Paramedic 11%
Plasma Pistoleer Hit 20%
Plasma Sniper Hit 20%
Ranged Gauss Dmg 10%
Ranged laser Dmg 35%
Ranged Plasma Dmg 10%
Ranger BLP Dmg 10%
Swordsman Hit 14%
Swordsman Dmg 5%
Two Handed Clubber Hit 53%
Two-Handed Clubber Dmg 30%
Whipper Dmg 5%
Whipper Hit 7%

mining
Driller 55%
Miner 0%
Prospector 5%
Surveyor 55%

MF
Biotropian 10%
Psychotropian Dmg 10%
Psychotropian Hit 12%
Pyrotropian Dmg 10%
Pyrotropian Hit 12%
Reviver 10%
Sweat Gatherer 9%
Teleporter 15%

random
Animal Investigator 33%
Animal Tamer 77%
Body Sculptor 1%
Colorer 52%
Face Sculptor 1%
Hair Stylist 1%
Humanoid Investigator 79%
Mentor 0%
Mutant Investigator 27%
Pet Handler 87%
Robot Investigator 28%

construction
Armour Engineer 0%
Attachment Engineer 0%
BLP Weapons Engineer 0%
Carpenter 0%
Electronics Engineer 13%
Gauss Weapon Engineer 0%
Laser Weapons Engineer 4%
Longblades Engineer 0%
Mechanical Engineer 0%
Metal Engineer 13%
Plasma Engineer 0%
Powerfist Engineer 4%
Shortblades Engineer 0%
Tailor 10%
Tool Engineer 0%

Mentor 0%

(Think my sums are right!)

You think it's close enough on any of them to start solving for the attributes contribution??
 
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Nice tally Dale. Actually we could probably finish some of them up completely using the method of the old thread now. If I get a free lunchbreak at work next week I'll put the old spreadsheet into action for Laser Sniper with the new knowns...less unknowns now so it should run way faster!

Oh...and I propose that Mentor is known 100% not 0% :D
 
Actually we could do with someone to confirm that. I'm assuming Mentoring contributes 100% to Mentor but you never know.

I tried to get the info out of alice a while back but she wasn't playing along...

Anyone here done any mentoring?
 
i'll talk to alice in-game and let you know :)
 
Jimmy B said:
Actually we could do with someone to confirm that. I'm assuming Mentoring contributes 100% to Mentor but you never know.

I tried to get the info out of alice a while back but she wasn't playing along...

Anyone here done any mentoring?
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Well if you are friend or know somebody who is friend with them I would ask either

Jenna Mercury Star
or maybe SKULL too
Mercury said:
I think 431 would have to double check but I'm sure it is over 350
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Why:
Because they have very high mentoring skills (I believe that that weren't just braging of something that they didn't have on chat)
So I think they will have more than 300

Second because they have high skills in other areas
Meaning that if one of those makes a small contribution it will be more easilly noticed (for example agility, or maybe other general skills, or an unlocked skill).

So with them the error margin would be minimum.



As far as I'm concern I have level 31 in Mentoring (1st disciple took me to 31, second didn't give skills, 3rd gave a little more in the 31 progression bar)

and the Mentor profession is at ~3/10 of the bar progression.
it's at 39-40 in 124 possible:
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I believe I will upload a better image tonight, took this out of the gallery since it's what I can show at the moment


So I assume that Mentor counts for more than 98% of the overall average.

I don't say 100% because:
I read that there are people with more than 3-4 in mentor level and didn't unlock that profession (are still with 64 in 65 possible)
 
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MG Mighty - thanks for the info. Apologies for the slow reply - some RL business to deal with the last few days!

I was pretty sure no other skills than mentoring contribute to the profession, otherwise we'd already have people that have qualified for it without having any mentor skill.

So the figures you provide suggest pretty strongly to me that Mentoring contributes 100% to your Mentor profession level.

With regards to your final comments about people having 3 or 4 mentoring skills and having not achieved the profession - Mentoring contributing 98% rather than 100% wouldn't cause that effect. What I suspect is that either all professions start off slightly negative without skills, or there's a small threshold that you need to get beyond before it registers as achieved... There's some other issues such as the contributions gained from the starting attribute levels (for the avatars who started at 20 agility etc rather than those that began recently with 1) that led me to believe something like that must be the case before anyway!
 
OMG What a great thread

This is really great +rep for u Jimmy can see alot of work has gone into this.

My question (which is slightly offtopic so I'll keep it brief) is does skill chipping up affect your ability to global/HOF in a negative way? As I have been told this is the case

Regards



Pol:yay:
 
Thanks Eyecontact

Thank you I thought it may have been but I do like to double check these things
:)
 
Pol said:
This is really great +rep for u Jimmy can see alot of work has gone into this.
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Thanks :)

Pol said:
My question (which is slightly offtopic so I'll keep it brief) is does skill chipping up affect your ability to global/HOF in a negative way? As I have been told this is the case
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No, I don't believe anything of the sort.
 
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