Are you sick of this?

[Executor]

(This is a not serious mail...)

- Maybe MA realized that 3 Graphic Cards in SLI was the minimum to run CryTopia smoothly?

- Maybe they wanted to ensure at least one player would connect after VU 10 is realeased?

 

[Goreon]

(This is a not serious mail...)

- Maybe MA realized that 3 Graphic Cards in SLI was the minimum to run CryTopia smoothly?

- Maybe they wanted to ensure at least one player would connect after VU 10 is realeased?

It's dynamic.

I will got with that as well

 

[the1]

(This is a not serious mail...)

- Maybe MA realized that 3 Graphic Cards in SLI was the minimum to run CryTopia smoothly?

- Maybe they wanted to ensure at least one player would connect after VU 10 is realeased?

-the1-

 

[strakkan]

Sorry Luv, but ... "Dynamic" has now become predictable! I never thought I would be writing a post like this, but I have to agree not only with the OP, but also several others who have posted their opinions. For a long time now, I have seen new players get huge loots and ATH's ... which tells me that skill level is irrelevant. Sure, I got lucky at the crafting machine, and while my attachment skill level was 20 at the time, I still feel it was just a roll of the dice, plain and simple. Far too many people with mad skills are losing out to n00b big-ped looters, and I don't feel that's fair to long-term players who have invested a lot of time and money into this game ... I call it as I see it.

Also ... I totally agree with regard to one person getting 3 Nvidia cards ... no disrespect to Matt76 on my part either, but MA should have put a great deal more thought into this event. That said ... I'm not really surprised.

I dont usually put my thoughts out on theese kind of things either. Im pretty sick with EU lately too though. We actually need to make the casino into a casino again












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[kygon]

well 3x graphics cards oh well no biggie in my eyes 3x ATH a different matter lol

 

[psychnosiz]

which will be put into select Entropia Universe loots

It wasn't intended to be random, and for sure as hell not even dynamic.
Maybe we overestimate MA ... and they are not cabable of implementing a decent loot system. Just like politicians ... lots of blabla around stuf which every John Doe knowns that won't ever work.

 

[Usurper]

I honestly think it sux big time that one person can loot 3 cards.
I realy do.
Personally i don't need any of them cuz my 8800GTX will do just fine, but i know there are several people out there that realy want and need them, and also trying too loot them.

In cases like this MA need to shove their "dynamic" where the sun don't shine
and make it so that you can't loot more than one, since there is only a set numbers of cards available.

Realy, this sickens me.

 

[timmmers]

(This is a not serious mail...)

- Maybe MA realized that 3 Graphic Cards in SLI was the minimum to run CryTopia smoothly?

- Maybe they wanted to ensure at least one player would connect after VU 10 is realeased?

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

Most of us will need to shell out some money on hardware just to play pretty soon (no actual schedule for this major disruption yet though), I think maybe many will say "sod it" if things like this continue to happen.

t

 

[raynebowdragon]

Q - Where does the loot come from?
A - The loot comes from deposits.

Q - How to increase deposits?
A - Try to increase number of players.

Q - How to increase number of players?
A - Attract them with huge shiny ATH.

Q - How attract new players who don't care about looting 300K Oils?
A - Attract them with RL loot, like Graphic Cards.

Q - How to advertise better from Marketing Operation with nVidia?
A - Give 3 x Graphic Cards to the same player and make it public.


Maybe that even if you did not loot one of the Graphic Cards, your next loot will be a little better....



Have a nice weekend, on Earth or on Calypso...

This is repetition of what I poste earlier but in more summarised form

 

[jambon]

lol

Dim vCard, vLootOtherItem

vCard = dlookup("[NVIDIA]","Inventory","[UserID]=[CurrentPlayer]")

if vCard > 0 Then
    vLootOtherItem = True
Else:
    vLootOtherItem = False
End If

dim vItem
vItem = DMax("[ItemID]", "Items")

If vLootOtherItem = True Then
    ItemID.value = Int((vItem * Rnd) + 1)
Else:
    ItemID.value = dlookup("[NVIDIA]","Items","[ItemName] = 'NVIDIA'")
End If

I'm sure MA uses visual basic.. right?

lol I love it! Open-Source Entropia! Brilliant idea

Seriously though gratz to matt and everything, way to go, I'm sure he earned the loot and deserves it. But I do think it's completely unreasonable to allow 1 of the 750,000 Entropians to loot 3 of the mere 30 nvidia boxes available. I mean seriously the odds of that are so astronomically crazy I strongly suggest matt goes out and buys a few lottery tickets like right now!! But not if it's raining cause with those odds lighting just may strike twice too

I don't know though, tbh I'm not at all surprised by this as it happens all the time, it's really quite typically of MA and EU... for example, certain unnameable players hitting their 5th ATH in the span of a year or two while some players have been ingame for 3 years or more and haven't even globaled.

All in all I think it's just yet another sign that MA needs to fine tune that EU "dynamic" a little more cause the balancing seems to be WAAAAAYYYYY off. Common MA I know your all focused on the coming cry engine update but lets not lose sight of the fact that Entropia is useless without a balanced dynamic

 

[bvandevelde]

If MA's marketing manager is in any way competent, he should be hiding the balancing manager's body right about now.

i think it's bullcrap as well and ive been thinking of taking a huge break myself, or start doing 50peds hunts again instead of 500-1000 ped while losing less. It's not normal anymore when u should be really happy to make a profit hunt and consider 30-60% return 'normal' ("Oh well i gained some skill...") while relatively new players loot what you've been depositing for the past year or so -_-

 

[Opus3000]

Not seeing the issue here, whats the value of a card like this, 1500-2000sek ? lets say 2k peds, so total loot is like 6k peds.
Anyone looting 2k peds can take out the peds and buy themselfes a card if thats something they want. The item in itself is seems a bit irrelevant in a game that is rce, a whole thread dedicated to a total 6k loot spells jealousy to me....

 

[Dahlifyr]

Not seeing the issue here, whats the value of a card like this, 1500-2000sek ? lets say 2k peds, so total loot is like 6k peds.
Anyone looting 2k peds can take out the peds and buy themselfes a card if thats something they want. The item in itself is seems a bit irrelevant in a game that is rce, a whole thread dedicated to a total 6k loot spells jealousy to me....

It`s about the fu*ked up lootsystem not the loot itself!

This just once more shows that the lootsystem is Trigged, good luck with youre game MA! You are once more gaining respect from the gamingcommunity!

Fu*king Amatures

 

[Shadowmage]

Not seeing the issue here, whats the value of a card like this, 1500-2000sek ? lets say 2k peds, so total loot is like 6k peds.
Anyone looting 2k peds can take out the peds and buy themselfes a card if thats something they want. The item in itself is seems a bit irrelevant in a game that is rce, a whole thread dedicated to a total 6k loot spells jealousy to me....

You didn't get it, did you ?

It is that in the interest of nvidia the 30 cards should be distibruted to 30 different participants. In addition to this, it's kinda screwing for 95% of the people who get BS as loot that a special loot like it get looted 3 times by the same person. According to Entropiatracker we have close to 15.000 active players. so the chance that you loot one is 15.000 : 1, the chance to loot three is (15.000 : 1)³ what are 2,962...^-13 %. The chance that this happens complete randomly, as loot system >is<, is around that. So do you think the system works ?

Gratz matt anyway, it isn't your fault for looting exceptional

 

[Syntaxtc]

It's totally evident of the players who care, and the ones who dont Executor, i love your humor

 

[Igorl]

the chance to loot three is (15.000 : 1)³ what are 2,962...^-13 %. The chance that this happens complete randomly, as loot system >is<, is around that. So do you think the system works ?

Gratz matt anyway, it isn't your fault for looting exceptional

Loot isnt random - it is tweaked to keep gamblers in.
It the same with ESI - i hunt allo and ambuli for 6 mths - and get nothing but oil and tt fodder.

Then - I loot 3 ESI off that small red hopping thingie E of Twin - and one from random atrax which attacked me.

I.

 

[bigdeal]

This just once more shows that the lootsystem is Trigged

WOW, are people finnaly waking up ???
I knew this when i saw that ATH from leeloo a vew years ago.
MA was filming on CND for a promotion and WHAM, the ATH ever felt.
From that day i knew the loot system can be altered bij MA.

greetings,

bigdeal

 

[jambon]

Not seeing the issue here, whats the value of a card like this, 1500-2000sek ? lets say 2k peds, so total loot is like 6k peds.
Anyone looting 2k peds can take out the peds and buy themselfes a card if thats something they want. The item in itself is seems a bit irrelevant in a game that is rce, a whole thread dedicated to a total 6k loot spells jealousy to me....

it's not that it's 6k in loot. It's that it's a limited edition item where there are only 30. And 1 out of 750,000 people has looted 3 of them in a month it just seems a little odd. It would kinda be like if one guy looted the atrox egg, the first hogglo pelvis and the first unlimited ore amp.

Besides I hear the card that's included is a PoS that's half the power of my card

 

[heineken]

that is rediculous...and a slap in a face by MA to all of us serious players.....

 

[Opus3000]

You didn't get it, did you ?

It is that in the interest of nvidia the 30 cards should be distibruted to 30 different participants. In addition to this, it's kinda screwing for 95% of the people who get BS as loot that a special loot like it get looted 3 times by the same person. According to Entropiatracker we have close to 15.000 active players. so the chance that you loot one is 15.000 : 1, the chance to loot three is (15.000 : 1)³ what are 2,962...^-13 %. The chance that this happens complete randomly, as loot system >is<, is around that. So do you think the system works ?

Gratz matt anyway, it isn't your fault for looting exceptional

I do get it, but i cant see the difference, either u loot a card, if u want it then good for u if not then were back to the value of the item, if u dont loot a card but peds then just buy a card.....
And i also get that the core issue here isnt about the cards in themselfes but the poo chance of looting anything at all, but since u brought up the loot chance, 1 person 3 cards...well stranger things have happend, just look at the ath or the hof posts in this forum and make your conclusion....

So again in my book a mere 6k loot regardless of the item and all this whining about it seems a bit unfair, when there has been some really questionable loots to coincidentally the same ppl ceveral times in the past and none or very little whining over those....

 

[Staffas]

Alright here we go:

Am I the only one who was not suprised that the new mob had the grafic cards in their loot?
New MOB, new loot, seems ok too me.

Am I upset that I didnt loot a card? No, I do not hunt the new mob.
Sure Mat has looted 3 cards, same as with the RL coins, he will probably sell them later on and here we go, 30 different players will end up with cards anyway. (I know that this is not the reason for the discusion)

Sure this could have been handled differently by MA and snablesnot male young could have been dropping all the cards (easy mob so anyone can kill and loot them), but then the threads would have been about the n00bs loot att the cool stuff.

Spreading the cards out so that they drop from loads of mobs would have been an alternative, but if you want/need a card how do you know what mob to camp to have a chanse to get one?

So one lucky guy looted 3 cards, to mee this means that even if I cant hunt the new mobs (due to whatever reason), now I can still buy the cards from this person that looted more than one.

 

[Lee]

About the original question/problem of the lucky guy getting 3 cards (gratz btw), no it isn't 'right' or 'good' and yes it could have and should have been coded differently to spread those cards around to 30 different players. So called 'event' mobs are spawning recently, like the new spider bots, the umbras returning, the boorum, the recent trox monsters at the rig etc, I expect the rest of the cards will be in some of them, but the 'balancing manager' was too stoned that day to care about spreading them around in order to do the sensible thing for the players or for the partner company.

Loot isnt random - it is tweaked to keep gamblers in.

That has been my belief for a long time now too, which fits alongside my belief that it is avatar based to some degree as well. No way any of us can prove our own pet theories, but I have mine and now play accordingly, which is just for fun and to survive without becoming completely pedless. The first year here I put in at least enough to support an average family in a western country for that time probably, since then my life changed and I simply can't live big like that anymore (never went to a casino before that either so had to learn the hard way )

I am completely convinced that if I could now afford to continue to depo like that I would be seeing a lot more return than I have ever since (and whether or not I was grinding for hours on end or shooting a few mobs a day). I can watch other players get what to me seem to be regular, even predictable, globals and hofs, maybe not ath yet, but they know when they go hunt or craft they will get something sparkly 8 out 10 times. Do they actually profit though? No. Are they happy and feel like they are getting what they should be for the amount they depo and or the skills/equip they use? No. Do they continue to depo regularly? Yes.

No offense to any of my friends here in saying this, it is just my observation. Of course MA want to keep the biggest depositors ingame, but they also want to keep those who have made it clear from their deposit history that they are gamblers, whether or not they know it themselves. The 'balancing system' is set to achieve that, at the same time as to encourage more new players who will hopefully be big gamblers too (noob hofs on baby mobs).

This has been going on since I started the game, only changing in the nerfs that make it even more directed in that way, and I expect that to continue. So as I go about building my avatar for the third time now, I feel a lot better by totally accepting this situation and just playing, also seeing skills mean nothing at all if you can get equip to hunt things a bit more fun than exas

 

[MindStar9]

Semai says| ...

Now I am a big fan and critic of MA and usually I am first in Line to criticise them... but in this case...

Has anybody ever thought of the possibility that this is proof that loot and return to a great extent is also a bit like being at the right spot at the right time ?

Compare it to mining... you know your locations and that's where you mine... why should hunting loot be different?

We're usually on the same page, but ... we're not talking about ordinary loot here my friend ... we're talking about a RL item of value with the potential to enhance a computer system for someone, and thereby giving them the opportunity to move into the CE2 stage after implementation with perhaps a bit more ease. Therefore, for one person to loot 3 of these cards (IMO) is unfair distribution.

That said ... I do understand your argument, as well as those who support the "persistence" theory, because many of us who have been dedicated and loyal players for a long time have done just that ... and for some (myself included), persistence paid off, but at what cost in the long run. And again, we're not talking about ordinary loot here, but a RL item that continues to give a value to the looter in the way of enhancing their computer system ... one per person (IMO) would have been the route to go in a "unique" event such as this.

 

[Vhailor]

Very unfortunate. Another nail in the coffin ?...maybe.
..unless CE2 will save us all.

 

[Svarog]

as one Cop says to another "I do not believe in co-incidences." This is a set-up.

You'd like it more if all cards ended up in the hands of some famous names?
That would be less fishy, eh? Yet I see just a pure luck + hard camping.

Also bypasses the point most have been trying to make - Code it so you can only loot one. Not hard. Probably about as hard as coding a lock for items...

And this leads to the official predetermination. What next? One ATH per year? One hof per week? I don't think it'd be much better than how the things are now.

I really can't understand why this guy should not have looted 3 Graphic Cards, and why some people consider it as a defect and send Support Case.

What he said.

 

[Burgerman]

If MA's marketing manager is in any way competent, he should be hiding the balancing manager's body right about now.

LOL A big smile and 100 +reps from me for this one.

 

[Doer]

This is definitely typical results for EU. Whether it's the best way to do things has been debated ad nauseum, but it's actually "normal" for one person to loot 2+ of some item in a short period of time. That's because EU is not random--it's dynamic. Clustered skill gains, clustered hits (clustered misses), clustered globals, clustered items: it's central to MA's magic dynamizer.

My opinion? As i've said in the past, "Yeah, it's a stupid way to do things." You thought maybe you were dealing with Page and Brin?

LOL at people who think it will change before or after CE2.

 

[psychnosiz]

we're talking about a RL item of value with the potential to enhance a computer system for someone ... one per person (IMO) would have been the route to go in a "unique" event such as this.

I can't really see a difference in looting a RL item which enhances your computer and a virtual item which decreases your need²deposit though And I don't think it's really a valuable asset to help you move into the CE2 stage as it not only depends on your gfx specs. Updating your hardware according to newer specs is kinda normal, it's just the way that the distribution is handled which is irritating. If they'd done 10-30 "random" mob attacks on towns (which we known now they can easely do, see marauder/rig topic), and make it possible to loot the cards that way would please everyone.

It should be limited to 2cards/person btw ... if they are SLI cards (haven't bothered to lookup specs)

 

[Lezardine]

ouch

I saw that guy looted a third card earlier.
I don't hold any ill-will towards him or others that are lucky enough to see such loots.
I learned from being a miner and seeing every nub and their brother hit a tower - that it isn't their doing. It's up to MA as to who gets what - so we get what they want us to get - doesn't matter your skills / perception / decay etc.

While I still really do love Entropia and all the time I've spent here and the people I've met ..



I concur.

ahh.... I remember when EU was PE and I was hoping this "game" will evolve in a good direction, loved the community aso, the spirit was'nt the same...
... now I just try to stay alive on calypso, friends have left, some new came and got hofs and globs I only dream of because I don't depo like crazy

Just look at those haircut you have now for male avas.... this isn't a not-like-others game anymore, it's sticking with the society, evolving in the same direction... and plz don't tell me human society is going in the right direction...
but hey! I still love it because I like the sound, the gameplay and some ppl stay just as they are....

So YourMom, you're not alone (even if i don't know you)

Lez. (trying to keep faith, even if agreed with E.k.x.)

 

[Thriller]

I saw that guy looted a third card earlier.
I don't hold any ill-will towards him or others that are lucky enough to see such loots.
I learned from being a miner and seeing every nub and their brother hit a tower - that it isn't their doing. It's up to MA as to who gets what - so we get what they want us to get - doesn't matter your skills / perception / decay etc.

While I still really do love Entropia and all the time I've spent here and the people I've met ..



I concur.

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