- May 13, 2009
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- Graden (Switch) Foss
In fact so many people used a auto clicker, that one could argue MA gave up the fight and built it into the game (auto tool)Well... that was what sweating was like up to VU10, right? And we did sweat anyway in those days.
I do hope you realize it takes MA a few weeks or even months to get around to banning people. they are slow as with all things, but its very likly to happen and the more support tickets raised against you the more likely it will happen.It's still on a very little scale, since we are still only 3 and don't spend a lot of time doing this, but, because less sweat is actually gathered : For now, this is working. Well, for seeing anything impact on the price, well.. we must have to wait for a little time.
I appreciate all the ideas proposed by many of you, but since it is not something we can actually DO, I won't answer on these matters: MA will do what they want to.
Just a little update about the "you will be banned" thing : From what I see, for now, I haven't been banned, and I come almost everyday. 3 or 4 people said that they have reported me, and I've heard nothing from MA nor from these people since then. (EDIT : I haven't been banned, and I haven't been warned either !)
Oh, I did not realize that, since they always usually process my support tickets very quickly.I do hope you realize it takes MA a few weeks or even months to get around to banning people. they are slow as with all things, but its very likly to happen and the more support tickets raised against you the more likely it will happen.
MA responds quickly with canned responses. anything else often requires some time, especially when they leave the offices for summer vacation (holiday).Oh, I did not realize that, since they always usually process my support tickets very quickly.
True, and when MA investigates they would see no reason, however if they look through your logs and see you purposefully messing with others "fun" on a frequent basis..Those players requesting you to stop, and your continued abuse of their time...I am not sure your "fairness" has merit.Well, all in all, I don't really see where the truth ends and where you opinion begins, especially in that sentence : "the more support tickets raised against you the more likely it will happen." ... IMO, that doesn't seem a fair system.. a very famous character could ask, by anger/jealousy/etc.., his 100 friends to send support tickets against the same avatar with no reason.
No where in the rule "no interfering with others gameplay" does it say, only if it costs them ped...regardless many sweaters wear armor or heal, and the increased decay and heal required to fix your "harassment" would in fact fall under loss of ped..That's why I think the only problem is : Is the reason of the report valid ?
And, really, none of us can tell if dragging a mob on a sweat group in a private area can seriously be seen as "interfering with other's gameplay"...
1) First of all, sweating is not like hunting : no risk of losing PED.
Have you read anything above..? Yes, actions are deliberate. After that, YOU can call them "sabotage" as much as you want, but it's not very mature to highlight these wrong points of view as if they were true. (They will be if MA decides they are; and, no, in that situation, it is not 100% clear that there was an identical precedent ever).Blah blah blah
Just fucking deposit ... Seriously, if you had spent half the time working vs. posting useless ideas here you could have easily deposited 1000 ped already. Is there any point to this dribble ??Have you read anything above..? Yes, actions are deliberate. After that, YOU can call them "sabotage" as much as you want, but it's not very mature to highlight these wrong points of view as if they were true. (They will be if MA decides they are; and, no, in that situation, it is not 100% clear that there was an identical precedent ever).
your post is half wrong, and half slander (and with 0% argument). If I was as immature as you, I would say "I don't even bother to answer to posts like this" but I won't :
real facts: (not MY point of view)
*******our full names are clearly known by many people in Nea's Place (lol@ I don't disclose names, but I give you a little hint)
*******my avatar hasn't been created just to do this, since it was created in 2004 (sometimes, reading all the thread can keep from talking rubbish)
*******have you ever considered that having the same Last Name can mean that we are related to each other in a way and had the idea of taking the same name for that reason ? (no, off course; since I do something you don't like, I'm a cheater and I'm evil)
*******To put it in your way : It is very likely that you don't know anything about me but that you pretend to anyway.
(Look, i've put more stars, so I'm obviously right !)
I don't usually answer in that way, but that post was really offensive. I really hope it will be deleted BTW.
Thank you for not answering back.
Farmer Smurf, I've got your point.. But, really, now, all we can do is wait and see what MA says.. I hope I'll get a chance to be heard by them. I was really into asking them myself the question at the beginning.. Now that reports have been filled, I think I'll just wait. I've talked about it a bit in reports I've sent after having being harassed lately, and they didn't seem to pay any attention about it..
Sorry, I don't think that the most important thing in life is MONEY... thanks anyway for your advice, because it could be useful to some other people here !Just fucking deposit ... Seriously, if you had spent half the time working vs. posting useless ideas here you could have easily deposited 1000 ped already. Is there any point to this dribble ??
Gee, sweating is for new people to initially get to know the game, its not meant to make money.
just my 2 cents
Good for you Casper !I and my Socmates have moved to a new/unused area to collect Vibrant Sweat.
It is far more efficent than Neas...ammost 50% more per hour.
I thank you for your efforts as they have forced a change for the better for us. More sweat...more peds.
I will continue to skill healing at Neas as I loot spare chips...you are actually helping me in that too.
Funny how bad things can be turned into good despite your best laid evil plans...
But according to you it must be bad...they are making MORE sweat. Exactly what you are trying to stop with your mobtrains and whatnot...Good for you Casper !
If you read correctly, I don't plan on doing something that I consider bad.. If you make more PED now, it's really good for you ! (I'm not being sarcastic)
yep ! I've never said the opposite..But according to you it must be bad...they are making MORE sweat. Exactly what you are trying to stop with your mobtrains and whatnot...
Hey, don't read if you're not interested! When people talk to me, I answer ; and sometimes I ask questions, especially when I don't know what they mean exactly.Can't you just let this disgrace of a thread rest in peace?
Seriously, what's the point in bringing this up again and again... and again... and again?
My suggestion, change your ways before you get banned.2012-08-06 16:12 Entropia Universe Support:
Thank you for contacting us. Yes this doesn't look good at all, we'll investigate further and take proper action.
Thank you for your report,
Cameron | Planet Calypso Support
BTW, please, can someone define me "mobtraining" ?? I mean, clearly !
In my thoughts, mobtraining was dragging a very important amount of mobs at the same time on a player/group of players.. Was I wrong ?
There are tons of BP's in game actually now that take sweat. 2 weeks ago I ground down 50k sweat making lesser elysia (NI BP) while looking for bp drops in clothing on Arkadia.MA tried by introducing Welding Wire and a few other BPs that require sweat, but the BPs are plentiful. And small amounts of welding wire, 5 ped let's say, last for a good long while. Which helped decrease the demand for sweat.
You got banned for training mobs into groups of new users trying to sweat for the first time? It would be best to just let it go man Just deposit and you will be happy.If some people are interested, I'll PM them what happens next with the support service, because I think that this is the only thing that really matters : what it can teach to us (if I'm not the only one interested and quite confused with their answer)
I suggest you read the MA reply carefully."The most important issue here is the intention to manipulate the market, which is a serious matter for us since EU is based on a real cash economy.
Your account has been unlocked, but we must ask you to stop this behavior. If you continue to do so you risk having your account permanently banned."
1)You CAN'T manipulate the sweat market. Not because it's not possible, but because it's not legal (which tend to prove it's possible).
2)What I've been doing wasn't mobtraining after all (I insist on that, because many here (and at Nea's) were VERY confident with their good right of doing the good deed of talking to me like cr*p because of that false reason)
3)trying to manipulate the market is wrong. That absolutely must be told to these players wanting to create Sweat Unions and stuff (I've never seen them warned in that way by anybody)
No I didn't get banned.. You should read the thread, I won't answer since everything can easily be understood by reading it carefully.You got banned for training mobs into groups of new users trying to sweat for the first time? It would be best to just let it go man Just deposit and you will be happy.
My bad... I haven't CCed the whole discussion with the support.. : The reports were totally about mobtraining (which is about LARGE amounts of mobs, as they've told me), it is the reason my account has been locked, and I've been told that if inquiries had shown such a behavior, I would have been permanently banned.I suggest you read the MA reply carefully.
They said the *most* important issue, and I certainly agree that this point is more important than any other discussed here.
Why do you think that noone expected a ban for market manipulation? - If someone reported your behavior for that rather than for disrupting their game play, I'm not surprised at all.
Btw, they did not say that you were not mobtraining. They simply did not address this point, which is something completely different. They only addressed the most important issue, now it is up to you to figure out what the other issues could be.
Welding Wire!: http://www.entropiawiki.com/Info.aspx?chart=Blueprint&id=1936if someone else has info about blueprints that use sweat please add info on entropedia or here ty