I wouldn't have used the word "amusing" myself. "Worrying" would be more like it, especially when you think the game is great but you no longer trust the developers to do the right thing regarding security.
Hey, Nero. Rome is still burning, y'know.
it is amusing because i am currently kinda pissed off with MA especially (if you havent noticed with my tone towards MA lately) and am playing less
so since it doesn't affect me anymore as badly as it had when all was nice and dandy it is amusing
but i agree that it is worrying as well
Hit the nail on the head. MA were quick enough to act when people were using the trapping exploit in the instances because, surprise!, it directly affected them.
when there was an update where you could buy a bp for 1 pec from the tech sell it back to techncian for 1 ped, the thing was fixed in not even an hour
they CAN be fast, very very fast, as long as it affects their purse, not ours
there are severail examples of that
or remember the day when kinda every mining probe was at least a global, server was taken down pretty fast too
all in all the conclusion is, "as long it doesn't affect our purse we don't care really"
I think the problem is that did not actually exploit any bug. Yes, in this case it's pretty obvious for most of us that it's wrong and an exploit. But we could have similar issues that are not as clear if it wrong or not before MA have said "This is not an allowed behavior". So, official warning first like they did now, banning after that is the right method.
yeah
there was an instance where someone used a wormhole chip to create a wormhole to old cnd (spacestation, now foma)
temp ban pretty fast
in this instance people were summoned without them even knowing they are in the ships passenger list
that is an exploit
people were summoned into a pvp zone where their items, with real money value, could be looted, because of an exploit
people lost real money because others used an exploit
thats the fact
that they hide behind the fact there is a pop up window "yo dude, youre about to be summoned into space, you can get looted there, so beware!" is basically one thing, or actually two
hair splitting and cowardice
technically this summon message shouldn't be able to pop up AT ALL, which is the issue
that there is a warning in fineprint there is all nice and dandy, but not the issue
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in either case there should be several mechanics in place to avoid you getting summoned at all (especially against your will; like a "im on these ships as passenger, can be summoned by it" field in a list, which is opt in, so you know where you can get to for once)
MA failed to implement proper precuations and it is their fault as such as well
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its known i am against lootable pvp especially in space, so let me clarify that i would love to see lootable space gone except in some small areas in space
simply because of the fact cause it is one of the biggest exploit shitholes there are and has been
examples?
the pvp4 "hahah, i know how to make my radar work while you don't" exploit
the space "yeah, i can exploit my quad wing to fly waaaaaaaay faster than yours" exploit
this funny summoning thing
i am not much into the issue of pvp exploits, i bet if you ask the right people you can get a way bigger list whats really going on there
so if MA would have any professional attidute, they would do those things
#temp ban everyone, seriously everyone who had shot on the ships that have been used to summon (ie pirates)
if someone of those complains, perm ban, be done with the annoyance (yeah its harsh, but stealing peoples money is too, and this was by using exploits even, not intended game mechanics, so its stealing)
#compensation, 2 options:
option 1
take the peds from ppl who looted the passengers of said ships, evenily by who looted most (they have logs of that, even if they always deny having logs) to compensate the people
the said ships used for summon get their owner removed, dead reauctioned, this will also be used as compensation
option 2:
compensate the people out of their own pocket, because they have the nerve to go on a one or two month holiday in a RCE game without leaving anyone with the power to SHUT THE SHIT AND EXPLOITS DOWN
actually thats the option i would prefer, paying from their own pocket may have a learning effect they need desperately imo
#shut the annoying and useless pvp in space down til you FIXED IT!
space is generally mostly an annoyance that takes time and peds when you wanna switch planets, may be intended but there are better ways
and tons of better ways than pvp
which brings me back to my point of being amusing
that they pretty much tried to ignore the issue that long, with the really funny "ya bad bad boy!" announcement makes them look pretty hilarious
definitely not from a victims point of view though
(i prolly get on the no loot list for that, but its my opinion)