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Theocles said:
There are those who have relatively high hit rate that dont cheat, unfortunately entropia does not have an anti cheat feature, maybe one day!

Saying pvp rewards should be removed from the game is rather silly, the rewards dont affect you in the slightest, those who win the event, place in the event and are interested in pvp will spend far more in ammo and decay than the rewards even justify, so IMO, the rewards can stay.

IMO, people who used yog horror in landgrabs should be removed from the game
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Theocles said:
IMO, people who used yog horror in landgrabs should be removed from the game.
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I agree with you.

But also I think those that falsely accuse people who never used the exploit, as witness by MA doing their investigation and clearing said persons by witness of said persons not getting any discipline actions like all those who were banned; the accusers should have a mark over their names to show they are full of BS and only have the intentions of trying to bully others, and failing FYI. 🤣
 
jak said:
I agree with you.

But also I think those that falsely accuse people who never used the exploit, as witness by MA doing their investigation and clearing said persons by witness of said persons not getting any discipline actions like all those who were banned; the accusers should have a mark over their names to show they are full of BS and only have the intentions of trying to bully others, and failing FYI. 🤣
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sunglasses all over the place

need to wear the orange ones to spot aimbots
 
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I must admit that I sincerely like the initiative from Mindark and @Socrates|Mindark in this case, even though pvp in this game doesn't really appeal to me, events and initiatives of this kind should be encouraged...so...

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19 People signed up so far - I know there are more of you out there with a set of Sentinel and a Cryogenic Chip - So sign up for the chaos and get involved! :) The more popular this is the more we can do with it going forward.
 
Well, pvp isn't my kind of thing - except defending against it in space. But if it were, I'd probably be turned off by many points around 'not knowing what I was doing' problems and 'fairness'. You didn't answer my question about the distribution of ammo/decay costs, so I remain not even semi-knowledgable.
I'd have to book it as a complete loss - and maybe some fun.
 
I believe it's going to be difficult to mass appeal this kind of event to the playerbase.

There is simply no point in participating as a newer player, even mid to medium avatars.

This is because gear + skill gap is extreme between players and it will be near impossible for even a group of people to just kill one real Uber just a single time, where this Uber would be able to kill everyone a thousand time with one shot kills the other way around.

Maybe if they could make an event where everyone gets temporary same skills and guns. That would be a lot more fun (and fair)
 
At the current state of the game i doubt this is a good event to run from MA's side.
With the dll injection and aim assists even if the top players that win... does so legit... people will still rage and accuse them of not been legit.
That is ofc if a simpler exploit like "hey bro come here and let me shoot you" is not used.

I guess i'll make some popcorn and just observe from afar.
 
NoBion said:
I believe it's going to be difficult to mass appeal this kind of event to the playerbase.

There is simply no point in participating as a newer player, even mid to medium avatars.

This is because gear + skill gap is extreme between players and it will be near impossible for even a group of people to just kill one real Uber just a single time, where this Uber would be able to kill everyone a thousand time with one shot kills the other way around.

Maybe if they could make an event where everyone gets temporary same skills and guns. That would be a lot more fun (and fair)
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This is just an initial event as a free for all. Following a suggestion from further up the thread, going forward we might run leagues for different "Health Brackets" to make it approachable for all. Nothing is fixed, my aim is to make these events something for everyone to participate in, who wishes too. Of course, within those brackets there should still be incentive to gear and skill etc. But fair comments.
 
Rawr66 said:
At the current state of the game i doubt this is a good event to run from MA's side.
With the dll injection and aim assists even if the top players that win... does so legit... people will still rage and accuse them of not been legit.
That is ofc if a simpler exploit like "hey bro come here and let me shoot you" is not used.

I guess i'll make some popcorn and just observe from afar.
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I understand the view, but I'll agree to disagree on some things. I don't think things not being in an ideal state today should be an excuse not to do fun things like this, because things can always be better regardless of what that current status quo is. I suppose if the rewards on offer were seriously good, then I would agree that it would create bigger concerns.

This is intended as a bit of fun, with nice rewards but rewards that aren't too impacting such that the issues within PvP don't become too much of a crux. I also hope, that with some more activity in this area that we can also take time to review, improve and fix things with PvP moving forwards. But as I always say, I never make promises.
 
Still answering, but not answering my question. If you don't know, then look into it as part of designing better events.

NoBion said:
There is simply no point in participating as a newer player, even mid to medium avatars.
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Adding to this, the fort events used to be great for all levels, as those without high firepower could man turrets in defense or heal gates and turrets. Costs were also low as a 10% cost of ammo event.
There were issues that meant over time the events died, mainly being able to fire inside from outside and team imbalances, but that shouldn't have been the end of a great event idea because of bugs and poor balance.
To start again with 'fun' stuff that isn't even at the level of what we used to have is poor, even under the simple label of 'fun'...
 
NoBion said:
I believe it's going to be difficult to mass appeal this kind of event to the playerbase.

There is simply no point in participating as a newer player, even mid to medium avatars.

This is because gear + skill gap is extreme between players and it will be near impossible for even a group of people to just kill one real Uber just a single time, where this Uber would be able to kill everyone a thousand time with one shot kills the other way around.

Maybe if they could make an event where everyone gets temporary same skills and guns. That would be a lot more fun (and fair)
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Why should people who have invested time and money into thier avatars skills and gear have them wiped off them for the Event? The hub on cyrene does that if you want to pvp with the same gear as others.

There is nothing to stop anyone from becoming a better pkr if that's the path they chose in game. Less than a year ago I'd have been destroyed, but focused on skilling and gearing towards pvp in order to be able to hold my own in the pvp aspect of the game.

There was a similar event on ni a few years back called the Thunderdome. By anyone's comparison I was a complete noob compared to others taking part, but I had an absolute blast, loads of fun, and felt included in something that would have seemed out of reach before. I have fond memories of that event and I'm sure anyone in a similar boat now could feel the same with this. Not everyone can get close to a fort to take part the fort events, with this everyone can come and have a laugh!


The event will be fun and chaotic, I know i won't win but I'm sure I'll have an absolute blast in the process.



There seems to always be this trend of pcf whenever something new is launched, with complaints of why can't it be something for noobs. There is an absolute plethora of missions and things going on for noobs to do, but if there is nothing for them to want to progress and achieve in the game there is absolutely zero reason to skill and level through the game.
 
Socrates|Mindark said:
19 People signed up so far - I know there are more of you out there with a set of Sentinel and a Cryogenic Chip - So sign up for the chaos and get involved! :)The more popular this is the more we can do with it going forward.
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It would motivate more people to participate if the cost per shot inside event is significantly lower than normal pvp. It can get quite expensive to shoot in pvp for an entire hour.
 
Unfortunately, I don't have enough PK skills to join an event like this - but I love seeing different types of events in game for all levels of players. In this case, it's for high-level players or / and players that can afford it and are willing to spend some money for the fun, and that's perfectly fine with me.

There are plenty of events for lower-skilled players as well - and everyone is free to join or not. So if you're not willing to pay the cost, don't participate. Join our Nakid Fisting Event instead then ... only cost is the tt knuckles and a little pride ... you don't armor decay and first prize is a little rub on the head from TheNun and som fun :better:

I'll say YAY for MA for daring to try out a different event to get the experience for future events, and if it weren’t for the fact that I’d die from the first shot (and we all know how a girl dies in this game), I’d be out there on the field cheering for you. Heck, if I had the skills, I'll shoot you all down myself ...
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jetsina said:
Still answering, but not answering my question. If you don't know, then look into it as part of designing better events.
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Sub-Zero said:
It would motivate more people to participate if the cost per shot inside event is significantly lower than normal pvp. It can get quite expensive to shoot in pvp for an entire hour.
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To the first point, I do not know the answer. Only that the accumulated decay is added to the prizes.

To the second part of that, and Sub-Zero's point - Yes, I'm in complete agreement in the premise of reduced decay/usage cost within the confines of the Event System for PvP.

However, with this event I'm working with the system we have. I can and will ask about whether the team would consider a review on the Event System specifically for these changes. But as I said before, I won't hold off on attempting to run fun and small scale events on the premise that it might be improved later on. You do stuff now and make it better in future, the two are not mutually exclusive in my opinion.
 
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jetsina said:
To start again with 'fun' stuff that isn't even at the level of what we used to have is poor, even under the simple label of 'fun'...
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I completely agree in the need for these systems (LG, etc) being looked at for revamp which of course is a longer term thing. Within the confines of my role, and the tools I have available I'm trying to offer something small and fun for today for those who are interested. None of these things have to be mutually exclusive.
 
Socrates|Mindark said:
To the second part of that, and Sub-Zero's point - Yes, I'm in complete agreement in the premise of reduced decay/usage cost within the confines of the Event System for PvP.

However, with this event I'm working with the system we have. I can and will ask about whether the team would consider a review on the Event System specifically for these changes. But as I said before, I won't hold off on attempting to run fun and small scale events on the premise that it might be improved later on. You do stuff now and make it better in future, the two are not mutually exclusive in my opinion.
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Totally understand you and you're doing everything within your power atm. Just be careful that people not abuse reduced decay for shooting mobs on LA if there is any (in the future).

Btw it's a breath of fresh air to see you here on pcf with your 👌 communication.
 
Ok thanks. In days of old, someone who knew the answer would maybe post how something actually worked. Today that has all become trickier, especially in competitions. Just a maybe thought - maybe try and extract fun and competetive as distinct categories due to the word 'cost' that often doesn't help both aims.

I agree with sub-zero that you need to be careful with how settings can be remixed, such as his example above, but please do ask devs how stuff like reduced decay and ammo use can be put into certain events, yes. My example was not LG, but destroying the opponent's fort events, that need the tweak of preventing damage shots from outside the control room, plus some better allocation of how teams are formed and maybe switched during the event itself.
TY!
 
What a interesting way to get a Tax write off on your business,
 
messi91 said:
Its refreshing to see a human thinking something at MIndark HQ that has something for us but its like a drop in the ocean.
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Don't worry, with new mayhem format and all the amazing MU to be found there, you'll be back to your old self in no time, posting those fly gifs that can smell MU. ;)
 
Sub-Zero said:
Don't worry, with new mayhem format and all the amazing MU to be found there, you'll be back to your old self in no time, posting those fly gifs that can smell MU. ;)
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I've seen what new mindark devs are capable of.All the good stuff old in place was ruined and so your investment.
I don't recommend anyone to invest in this game.It does not goes by old developer mentality where you could invest in your avatar, now they want equal chances of outcome.
Real life inflation is nothing compared to their ability to slash all investment you built over a decade.
Your money is not safe here.
 
messi91 said:
I've seen what new mindark devs are capable of.All the good stuff old in place was ruined and so your investment.
I don't recommend anyone to invest in this game.It does not goes by old developer mentality where you could invest in your avatar, now they want equal chances of outcome.
Real life inflation is nothing compared to their ability to slash all investment you built over a decade.
Your money is not safe here.
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even at the risk of going slightly offtopic, this quote is right at the heart of things - im still not sure if mindark has actually realized just how much value of player assets was destroyed in the last year for the community as a whole it translates into millions of $ alot of us who trusted in mindarks longlived philosophy of ensuring growth and seeing our avatars as something to invest in longterm got heavily burned and its still not clear if mindark plans to remedy the damage caused with appropriate actions or if they only try to adjust things going forward leaving the wreckage untouched.

ontopic - i do like to see the effort of creating events/rewards/competition that values skills/gear/development and knowledge and restores purpose to what players have build up - much more of it will be needed, but it is a good start
 
as a pure PVE player i appreciate that some weirdo can kill themselves relentless.
nice idea ... more free spawns
 
Nice event Socrates even if small in scope it's still a fresh idea that can be developed

Side note, nothing brings a smile to my face as much as seeing butthurt people who bought pixels and are now surprised that their stash of pixels has no value. Insert mildly shocked Patrick Stewart meme here at your own leasure.



“think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin
 
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