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Amigetman

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So, i have deposited for my first time and i just put 20 bucks in. and i had ped from sweat.

I have about 225 ped, just asking the community whats the best way to spend my money i put into the game? what armor should i buy, how do i use the auction correctly with all the different mark ups and watnot. IM CONFUSED??? hahahahaha.
 
What do you want to do?

Hunt? Mine? Craft? Although crafting is one of the hardest to get started in
Trade? etc

Rgds

Ace
 
Amigetman said:
So, i have deposited for my first time and i just put 20 bucks in. and i had ped from sweat.

I have about 225 ped, just asking the community whats the best way to spend my money i put into the game? what armor should i buy, how do i use the auction correctly with all the different mark ups and watnot. IM CONFUSED??? hahahahaha.
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Welcome to the Universe... and good luck

:guide:​


From my experience I would say follow the game and by that I mean start with the tt package of equipment... The game is actually programmed for success and slow progression and the starter equipment will do you well for. many months and some of it like the opalo gun for years. Many will suggest that you by-pass the settler armor and buy a set of pixie armor and that would be a good choice I guess, but from my perspective nothing is is here wihtout a reason and that goes for the settler armor as well.

Then do everything you can for the next three months to earn peds by sweating primarily, without armor... and picking up fruits and stones to be able to do the things like hunting with armour or mining with and wihtout armor... Your key to success will be in seeing how long you can make that 225 peds lasts...

Use EF and the noob corner as a program manuel and cheat sheet and you will find answers to almost any question of problem you can imagine or encounter...

Well that's all for now I'm sure many will have further more advanced advice...

Again Good Luck and Welcome Planetside
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Well, if you are an absolute beginner and are looking to go the hunter route, what I would recommend is you get a nice set of Pixie, and a beginner weapon of your choice ;).

The reason Pixie is because it does decent enough protection for some smaller mobs and the decay is very low. Although in my opinion you should rarely use any Armour at all, I usually hunt Daikibas and Combibo naked, and only use Armour for the slightly harder to kill mobs.

Here is a guide for the weapons you should use, in which order. I would recommend specializing just one of them, but feel free to skill them all like me :).

After you get your Armour and your weapon, you should look into getting the TT healer, the Vivo T1, this is the most basic (L) Fap (First-Aid-Pack) there is, and use it to heal yourself while your out hunting :cool:. Don't use it too often though, or you'll just be wasting PEDS, use it during emergencys. (Unless you want to skill ofcourse :silly2:.)

If you want to go the mining route, it's pretty simple,

The Enmatter chart is Here.

and the Ore chart is Here.

For mining you basically equip the Finder of your choice, and probe/bomb the place all over. If you find something (A claim) you just dig it up with an extractor/excavator. The TT extractor/excavators usually get the job done and are one of the most efficient. After you dig up the enmatter/ore sell it to a trader, or if you're lazy TT it (DO NOT TT EXPENSIVE STUFF!!11`)

Lastly, have fun, the money does not last forever so once it's gone, it's back to sweating for you ;). You could trade with some of your money or you could deposit again, it's up to you :D. Good luck and have fun!
 
Thank you so much for all the advice so far. Its just like, i wanna buy a set of pixie armor but what stuff do i bid on in the auction? like the mark ups are all different and the prices???? i want to spend my money the most wise and im clueless to this stuff.
 
Amigetman said:
Thank you so much for all the advice so far. Its just like, i wanna buy a set of pixie armor but what stuff do i bid on in the auction? like the mark ups are all different and the prices???? i want to spend my money the most wise and im clueless to this stuff.
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You are looking for the armour parts that have the least markup, ie TT+ ?

TT = trade terminal value, the tt value of the pixie armour is irrelevant, you will need to repair what you have bought though.

TT+? you want the ? as low as possible

Rgds

Ace

PS you could also put up a buying thread on EF to see if anyone has a full set they want to sell to you. Check auction history on each piece first though to make sure you are getting a good deal
 
crafting is a bad idea to start on with so little ped but it can be done. for most crafting you spend days/weeks collecting mats then blow it all in 30 min and are bored again in no time.

its fun to mine but you will need hunting skills/gear.

buy full pixie, Opalo tt riffle, and the vivo t1 medi ball. if you can some kind of unlimited "panic" weapon and fap a Katsuichi Determination and a 2350 are ok for this.
hunt small stuff at first, any mob you can kill without needing to heal during the battle is best for now. stay with limited weapons you can buy at a low mark up as your skills progress.

once you max out the tt riffle "not anymore" for SIB if you still have peds I would max out the rest of the tt weapons. this will give you a feel for most forms of combat. if you max them all out and want to hunt larger mobs buy some armor plates for the pixie or upgrade the armor set. then pick a path you want to go down like laser hand guns, or blp riffle, and stick with it. as your skills progress in one kind of combat you will start to unlock new skills this is why you want to go down one path.

before you buy a finder for mining spend a few hours here reading all the information you can find.

as for the markup in the auction its really easy to understand but harder to explain. with that just read over the information you see and ask people in soc chat if you get stuck. the nbk will do lots of team hunts its a good idea if you go on them for some learning =)

when you are ready to upgrade the pixie read and understand this
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/armor/94684-how-armor-works.html
then use this
http://www.entropiawiki.com/ArmorAdviser.aspx

for weapon and other upgrades
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/weapons/165740-new-sib-charts.html

its a good idea to track your mining you need to know what area has what and found at what depth. so you can match the depth of your finder to the area you are in. the newbie place where port atlantis is located is a really good spot for newbies and the stuff you find has a fair mark up.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/mining/165013-calypso-ore.html

I can go on for hours with stuff you will want to know but it all can be found here on this site =)
 
If you get pixe you might want to keep it for a long time. Just buy armor plates to get better protection. You might eventually loot higher armor as you hunt also.
 
Try to get your pixie by trading with other players at neas and swamp camp. You can often get it in trade for sweat and/or for tt value.


Also may want to read Alice's Guide and maybe Huting on $15 a month as it is close to the $20 budget you have.
 
im not sure if this was smart.... hahaha but i just placed bids on all the pixie pieces of armor for the lowest mark up i could find. all pieces i bidded on were below .20
 
Amigetman said:
So, i have deposited for my first time and i just put 20 bucks in. and i had ped from sweat.

I have about 225 ped, just asking the community whats the best way to spend my money i put into the game? what armor should i buy, how do i use the auction correctly with all the different mark ups and watnot. IM CONFUSED??? hahahahaha.
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My advice;
If you want to be a hunter, buy NO armor.
Buy only an opalo, Vivo t1, and ammo (and maybe a knife for killshots - all available at the TT).
Hunt your ass off (sweating first until the mob agros) until you loot an entire set of Pixie armor (use www.entropiawiki.com as a guide for what loots the parts you need). This will be a looooong grind, but by the end of it, you'll have maxed your opalo (and be ready to move up to the next level of laser rifles). This should only take around two weeks of 20 hours/week grinding.
If after two weeks, you're maxed on the opalo and are missing 1-2 parts of your set, just buy them (I'd guess Thigh and Foot will be hardest to loot).
By the time you've looted the Pixie, you'll have a better understanding of everything and you'll be ready to ask around for new advice fitting your new circumstances.
ps: in my opinion, you will not need an A101 amp for this initial period.
 
Amigetman said:
im not sure if this was smart.... hahaha but i just placed bids on all the pixie pieces of armor for the lowest mark up i could find. all pieces i bidded on were below .20
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Seems smart to me. :)
if the pices are under TT+0.5 then the seller acually recieves less then TT price for it because of the AU fees. so you could not have found it for a better price :)
Always pay as little markup as posible. Thats a good habit to have.
Remember to repair your armor to Full TT value before you go out to hunt, the armor protects less when it is not fully repaired.

One thing that not many people mention but that is quite important when you start to hunt: Try to hunt in a more quiet area than swamp camp.

The reason for this is that you will get attacked by several mobs at the same time at swamp camp, mobs that got aggro from another player and then decided that your armor looks realy tasty and he wants to eat it.
 
Welcome to EU! :D

We have all been where you are right now. EU has a steep learning curve, but also has a community that is generally interested in sharing knowledge and helping new players.

It basically boils down to "what do you want to do?"

Personally, I started out hunting, then switched to mining/crafting, then back to hunting, and presently I am doing all 3 professions.

How quickly you will progress in skills and equipment is -generally- influenced mainly by how much you deposit. This is not always true, of course (just ask the newbie who hit a tower at Swamp Camp). :laugh:

When I started playing, 50 PED could last me forever. True, I'm more of a talker and would rather have a nice society chat than go hunting Atrox, but I still think it's possible to go very far with minimal money.

The problem I ran into was when I -really- wanted that Marber Bravo... ;)

I find it helps to branch out your professions a bit. Don't put all your eggs in one basket (some baskets are pretty safe, though). If you're so inclined, buy TT ore and enmat finders, TT ore and enmat excavators, 15 bombs and probes, an Opalo (or CB5, depending on laser/BLP preference), a Vivo T1, a knife (perhaps) and you will be all set.

Sweat some mobs, kill em when dry or aggro'd. Do some small scale mining. Make sure to slow down and walk around. There are fruits, dung, and stones to be found on the ground. I'm sure they could provide some extra change (I used to live off of them entirely).

Sorry if this post was reminiscent of "when I was your age, I walked uphill 3 miles to AND from school" grandparent stories. We just want to make sure you have the knowledge so that if you -do- lose some PED, you aren't crushed.

It's a fun game, it's a tough game to start in, but the community is absolutely wonderful. There's a lot to see on Calypso, lots of people to meet, lots of FUN TO BE HAD.

Grab Calypso by the conkers and have fun with it. :)

And once again, welcome to EU. ;)
 
My shopping list if I was in your place would be:

- 1 set of pixie from auction
- Repair pixie
- 1 Opalo carbine from TT
- 1 A101 amp for the opalo from auction
- Repair the amp
- 1 TT Fap

Save the rest for ammo and repairs of you rnew gear.

Hunt Exo, Daikiba, snables and other low level mobs with this gear until you have max damange and Hit Ability (HA) on the Opalo and also the Breer M1a.

That will take a while and you might have to deposit again to get there. By the time you have done it you have some good experience in hunting and can decide where you want to go from there.
 
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1: FAP
2: Gun
3: Armour

1: Keep sweating for a bit while you increase your Paramedic skills and think about all the advice given in this thread before spending any more.

2: The Anatomy skillgains you get from healing will boost your minimum damage for when you first start hunting. And the Evade/Combat Reflexes you got from sweating will help you not to be hit so often.

3: With your FAP maxed so you get the best heals you can and 20/20 per min, and your higher Evade stopping your armour from absorbing more damage (and decaying) more than it has to, get some armour and try something bigger.
 
Oh another word of advice. When buying weapons, FAP's, or tools, always try to buy items that have a Skill Increase Bonus (SIB). Simple way to find out if it has a SIB is to go to the info page for the item, and click the magnifying glass tab. It will say if there's a SIB or not.

SIB's give you increased skill points for using the items. Though at certain levels they do end. It's always more economical to use SIB tools to maximize skill gains.
 
One of the biggest reason i love this game is because the community :)

LOOK AT ALL THE POSTS I GET AND ADVICE :yay::yay::yay::yay:
you guys are the best

I think i wanna go blp. I definetly do wanna try a mix of skills sometime like mining ect.

And no worries about me getting crushed for losing ped :D i understand it is most likely it will happen haha.
 
Brooklyn said:
... The game is actually programmed for success...
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LOL! :lolup:
(Do you understand that its impossible for MA or anyone else to design a system in which everyone is is successful, at the same time, if the system is closed?)
 
Rony said:
LOL! :lolup:
(Do you understand that its impossible for MA or anyone else to design a system in which everyone is is successful, at the same time, if the system is closed?)
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Plus if everybody was successful they would be losing mad money :rolleyes:
 
Rony said:
LOL! :lolup:
(Do you understand that its impossible for MA or anyone else to design a system in which everyone is is successful, at the same time, if the system is closed?)
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I repeat the game "IS" programmed for success.... not a easy success... not a quick success... not an unearned success... but success never the less... what MA understands is that people especially gamers are incredibly, impatient, not focused, not determined, easily bored, lazy, easily distracted and in general looking for a quick score or just want the entertainment and the adrenaline rush of a shoot-em up gamblers game and are easily led into taking on a gambling mentality and the false gambler’s casino logic that the system, which is not based on a casino, is designed to prevent everyone from winning... but not whining about their losses.

To the OP:

Example 1: Mobs and weapons, and finders etc. are matched to skill levels.... the basic items dropped by mobs and mined by entry level miners are matched to the same levels in the crafting system. Crafting textures provides a perfectly clear example… if you buy only the level 1 starting blueprints available from the technician you get the blue print for basic leather texture. If you shoot only low level mobs actually any mob you get basic leather which when you manufacture the texture you get residue textile residue plus metal residue which can be which is used to increase the value or quality of more complex manufactured items that.

In addition other level one and higher blueprints that you can’t buy from the also will drop while you are manufacturing the lowest level basic items enabling you to progress and increase your success… the same for lyst and oil easy to find in large enough quantity with starter finders and extractors… level on blueprint of filters also provides energy and metal residue. Now there are dozens examples of this… such as getting certain manufacturing skills from hunting… The thing to remember is that nothing not one in this environment is here without a reason and has been thought about in terms of the eventual success of the players… that is why it not gambling.

Most people get caught up in only focusing on the immediate simplistic gain of tt vs auction and mark-up… The immediate sale and rewards of items and not on maximizing the potential return all the way through the system… IMNSHO you need to master both the gaining of materials hunting… mining… etc and the manufacturing process as well in order to produce a stable income from on planet resources in order to make the most of the programmed success of EU…

It is a long (think in terms of months and years of progression) complex, tough, hard, process of gaining skills, information, decisions and activities and at times maybe boring but it works... at every level... you won’t get rich soon and maybe never, but "you" can win, which means you can profit… and at least play for free... and that is the ultimate personal challenge... can I support and entertain myself with the resources on "this" planet...

Do you have what it takes to stake a claim on Calypso


We'll do ya punk!

:eek:
It's up to you.

I'd say
Good Luck
but I'd be wrong
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Amigetman said:
im not sure if this was smart.... hahaha but i just placed bids on all the pixie pieces of armor for the lowest mark up i could find. all pieces i bidded on were below .20
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Actually if you ask around; many older players are willing to sell you newb armor for tt. :(

If I can give you only one tip in EU, it would be: "ask around"
ok, there are some asocial a**holes out there that will either ignore you or laugh at your question; but the majority of ppl will try to help you, give you advice or make you a good deal (armor at tt price and so).

GL out there; :wtg:
 
Brooklyn said:
I repeat the game "IS" programmed for success.... not a easy success... not a quick success... not an unearned success... but success never the less... what MA understands is that people especially gamers are incredibly, impatient, not focused, not determined, easily bored, lazy, easily distracted and in general looking for a quick score or just want the entertainment and the adrenaline rush of a shoot-em up gamblers game and are easily led into taking on a gambling mentality and the false gambler’s casino logic that the system, which is not based on a casino, is designed to prevent everyone from winning... but not whining about their losses.
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It seems to me that first statement in your phrase and the end are in contradiction, but my English is not as solid as yours.
I dont claim that anything you say is wrong, just that "universal success" is impossible to get in EU, or elsewhere, unless some external actor pays for that. Neither MA, nor anyone else will try such strategy.
Anyway, since the OP starter understood the logic behind my words in this thread, despite my English limitations, I will stop posting here. Have fun!
 
Rony said:
It seems to me that first statement in your phrase and the end are in contradiction, but my English is not as solid as yours.
I dont claim that anything you say is wrong, just that "universal success" is impossible to get in EU, or elsewhere, unless some external actor pays for that. Neither MA, nor anyone else will try such strategy.
Anyway, since the OP starter understood the logic behind my words in this thread, despite my English limitations, I will stop posting here. Have fun!
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Normally I'm the first to say ignore her; but she's on to something.
She says that you can succeed; but only if you don't gamble; most ppl lose because the gamble because they are impatient/want a quick shot of "adrinaline" (her she's wrong here, it's endorfine/dopamine actually, adrenaline alone would lead to anxiety and unrest)

But by agreeing; I do not see succes as a tt succes story; but an average on the long run. You can influence it by playing smart; don't do stupid things, knowing the game; and most important of all don't gamble.
And don't belief any armax-bull-dung ppl like legion & such are saying. some of it is true but most is wrong. The best way to find out is to play and analyse and use common sense (though if you have the mind of a programmer it might be easier)
 
Everyone can't succeed... it'd require more output from the system than input.
IMPOSSIBLE.

ps: OP, this is lesson 2 - ignore every and anything Brooklyn says.
 
I've read some good advices & some less good..
SETTLER is a ripoff, don't waste you're peds on it go for pixie

For weapons, unless you can get you're hands on a cb5 for tt value, stick to the opalo
If a 101 amp is out of you're budget, consider buying an L amp like Boom CCC but don't overpay for it!
Fap, stick to L unless you get uber & can afford an adjusted fap or better ;)
Don't believe that skilling is cheaper.. you never gain more value of skills then what you spend in TT & it's always cheaper to chip in.
So skilling medic is great but do it during you're grind & when you need the hp
Track down where you're peds are going to & what comes back, both tt & mu wise & adjust you're gameplay to it.
Try to set yourself some reachable goals, explore, run all tp's, looting you're own pixie set would be another nice goal as mentioned b4.
When u loot something, ask yourself why it is ingame, what it is used for
look at the markup graphs & try to understand why something has that mu or why some stuff sells fast & other not. This will give you & better understanding of the economy & makes it a lot easier to adjust.
Last word of advice, have fun!
 
Profit said:
Everyone can't succeed... it'd require more output from the system than input.
IMPOSSIBLE.

ps: OP, this is lesson 2 - ignore every and anything Brooklyn says.
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There is a distinct difference between can't and won't... MA knows for all the reasons I gave above, (now with the addition of the endorphins and dopamine*)...

That everyone
While they Can
Succeed Over Time
Won't succeed​

:scratch2:
I think that why they don't run afoul of gambling regualtions
because the progressive success is progammed in​
.

While we shouldn't put to much faith in polls conducted here it is interesting to note this one, much to the disbelief of the OP, shows 44% of the repondents breaking even or winning in terms of making money over the time they spent here.


I've always taken my advice from the most sucessful players and I would advise the op, not to take my advice, but theirs because that is what my comments and viewpoints are based on.

*Diety: Yes you are right but it is the combination and the adrenaline rush as the initiator and driver of the behavior that heightens both the need and effect of the endorphins/dopamine that comes with the hof... and it has a addicting factor of it's own.

 
Profit said:
End of story.

You said everyone can succeed, but they can't, it's impossible.
Don't try and wiggle out of your lies with semantics.


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You should try writing sci-fi Brooklyn, you're good at making things up :thumbup:
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:scratch2:
Are you trying to say
that MA has desiganted
a group of players like yourself
to be losers?​
 
put a /s before yoru questions in game and you will have load of help :D
youre ina good helpfull society
 
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