Are you a happy EU participant?

Are you a happy EU participant?

  • yes

    Votes: 178 52.4%
  • no

    Votes: 162 47.6%

  • Total voters
    340
  • Poll closed .
who voted no..
wtf are you still doing in this game.
go find another game to play!!!

stop whining, we are all here because we secretly press a YES in our heart.

You do realise that some ubers take literally years to sell out due to sheer volume of skill?

Or that some are unhappy paying 150k+ ped for hangars that are greatly devalued?


I'm generally ok with EU atm, but it's not so black/white with people - maybe they are slightly down on EU due to changes, maybe they will quit tomorrow.

Also do you really want 46% to quit... careful what you wish for.
 
I'm generally ok with EU atm, but it's not so black/white with people.

However, the thread is rather clear cut, yea or nay kind of thing. And um, this is ( or should be ) a game for most people who participate, and if it becomes too hot to handle ( like the horses or poker table ) then who is to blame for that unhappiness? The guy dealing the cards?

Not trying to oversimplify the thing, but really, YES because it is a game. NO I don't like bits of IRL. Not the same thing.
 
However, the thread is rather clear cut, yea or nay kind of thing. And um, this is ( or should be ) a game for most people who participate, and if it becomes too hot too handle ( like the horses or poker table ) then who is to blame for that unhappiness? The guy dealing the cards?

Not trying to oversimplify the thing, but really, YES because it is a game. NO I don't like bits of IRL. Not the same thing.


Well you can also like most of the game but be unhappy about a few things which causes a no vote. If the game wasn't rce then i would agree but things are more complex in EU. Also things change in game that people take time to "adapt" to each vu, people are generally resistant to change.

Also you are oversimplifying, as i said some people are still selling skills after over 1 year... they are/were so skilled it takes that long to do so due to the sheer volume.

Anyway i'm ok atm.
 
Well regardless if they "sell out" or just take a long break hurts us the same. 1 player less churning the wheels of the economy. Lets say we have 40%+ that would play much more if their need was satisfied?
 
I know this thread isn't about space, but since a few hanger owners have chimed in its why they are unhappy...


In 10 minutes i could come up with a better space system that:

1) preserved the value of hangers(without making hangers a bottle neck to spaceflight)

2) preserved pvp in space(without allowing criminals to steal)

3) Kept space open and easy for everyone to at least travel through.



Its really not that hard.... The core principle would be people travel easily, goods do not.

1) Start with a basic ship in the TT with a 0 mass limit. It can transport a naked avatar unmolested through space. Cost would just be fuel. You can move between planets all you want, but your goods are staying on those planets.

2) Add crafted ships with higher mass limits. You can transport yourself and some goods at the cost of fuel. But the mass limits would be start rather low. Sure you can move your 10000kg of goods but it might take you 100 trips, and that would take a lot of time/fuel. Add a whole range of ships from very low mass to higher mass.

3) Hanger owners get freighter class ships that have large mass limits. They can either directly transport people carrying lots of mass. Or....they can do #4.

4) Add a freight auction house system. You post an order to transport xxxxx KG of goods from planet A to planet b at price c, and time d. There could be a min fee/kg, or whatever. Then let people 'buy' the contract. The 'freighter' doesn't actually transport your goods. Your goods just go into an escrow account and are delivered either when the contract is fulfilled, or the time expires. So the system automatically delivers when it times out, so worst case, you wait the time you paid for. So you can opt to pay more for quick delivery etc. If a player fulfills the contract they get the fee. It doesnt even need to expire, once you take a contract you can take as long as you want(and as many trips as necessary) to fulfill it, tho they could make a penalty for late delivery. Add a limit of # of contracts you can take at any one time, the freighters would be able to take the most contracts at once. Also add a mass limit based on ship, you couldn't take a contract that required 1000 trips for instance; but you could take one that took 10 trips.

Fuel costs would also go up based on mass transported. If you want to fly your empty freighter from A to B it will cost far less then a loaded up ship. But the increase should be less then the min contract value so you can still profit.

5) add a 'player' *creature* to the loot database for pvping. Someone who kills a player, does not loot their goods, but generates goods from the system like every other profession. Make it so only players transporting mass are pvpable. Then you can kill everyone running contracts or transporting their own goods. But you wont be able to steal from them, just 'loot' their corpse and generate loot from the system. You can then get a 10k hof or whatever from pvping just like every other profession, without being a criminal. In this way pvp is no different then hunting, with the exception that you are fighting a player instead of an AI, and that's the whole point of pvp right?

6) Add NPC freighters traveling between planets, that fight back, that you can hunt if you want. As well as NPC pirates that go after players hulling mass, that you can again hunt.

7) throw in some asteroids to mine.


THATS what i wanted out of space at a minimum. And that's why im currently in the unhappy category. They took my dreams for what space could have been and completely smashed them.
 
THATS what i wanted out of space at a minimum. And that's why im currently in the unhappy category. They took my dreams for what space could have been and completely smashed them.

See now, instead of trying to creep in your ideas in this thread, why not make your own? Some of your thinking has merit, but how has space ( as it is ) smashed your dreams so far? This makes no sense, because if you found a better way to voice your ideas here and IRL, this is redundant.

Take a step back all you NO voters... is it the game that is lacking or IRL? Seems to me y'all asking too much from a game.
 
See now, instead of trying to creep in your ideas in this thread, why not make your own? Some of your thinking has merit, but how has space ( as it is ) smashed your dreams so far? This makes no sense, because if you found a better way to voice your ideas here and IRL, this is redundant.

Take a step back all you NO voters... is it the game that is lacking or IRL? Seems to me y'all asking too much from a game.

So you've been playing for a whole year now?:laugh:

I think it would be rather enlightening to see the results of this poll broken down by the voters' start dates.

As someone already explained, Mindark makes it very difficult to get out of this game.

Unlike other games where you just terminate your subscription and walk away when you get fed up, here you have to spend a very long time chipping out and selling off your stuff. Sadly, this means that there are a lot of pissed off people roaming around who haven't quite gotten to the point where they are willing to begin the painful process of extricating themselves from Entropia Universe. For that matter, maybe the people who voted "no" are all already in the process of chipping out.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I didn't vote. Even though I login once in a while and blast some stuff, I don't honestly consider myself to be an active participant. I mostly just pop in to see if the prices on my more expensive items and my remaining skills have rebounded yet so I can put on that final push to broom the rest of my crap and get out the door. It's pretty obvious which way I would have voted, had I voted.

If you manage to stick around EU for another three or four years, pop back into this thread and see if your perspective has changed any.
 
So you've been playing for a whole year now?:laugh: []
If you manage to stick around EU for another three or four years, pop back into this thread and see if your perspective has changed any.

You see, this confirms what I am saying, rather than refutes it.

I have not been alive for just a whole year, have I?

When too much time, money, and intellect is invested in this place, there comes a point that people lose perspective and ask far too much from a game, rather than from elsewhere. It is a game. And If I get pissed off with it, I will stop playing because - and you may not know this - there are an infinite number of activities to engage in to which I can vote YES, I am satisfied. Die-hard gamers, hanging on for the ideal EU. To expect fair and honest treatment from the marketplace. And I am naive? Dear oh dear.

Don't expose yourself so easily.
 
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I still vote NO... About this facts:

1. since VU 10 i have to fight to get my profession back (MAKE UP).
2. In the first days, weeks, months, of the VU10 i had to fight to get my shop back and all old stats of my shop.
3. MA promised several times, about when we get MAKE UP back, but still noting happens.
4. It cost a lot more to play EU. as before VU10!
5. They changed everything in the game.
6. EU lost a lot of community fun and charme (remember: old wild partys on CND / Beacons ... etc.)
7. EU is much larger as ever before, and the player base is still small. They don't find a way to populate EU.

I would vote yes, if i see Make up back and also beacons.
I would vote 50% happy 50% not happy at moment, if it would have this vote option.

Oh, not all NO voters are in the case of sell out :)
 
Also do you really want 46% to quit... careful what you wish for.

Ahh, you caught me. No, I don't want them to quit. The people who can't figure out how to be self-sustaining (the unhappy people) are the ones that make it easier for me to do well.

As someone already explained, Mindark makes it very difficult to get out of this game.

No they don't. It's called a trade terminal and it is quite easy to dump everything in there.
 
I still vote NO... About this facts:

1. since VU 10 i have to fight to get my profession back (MAKE UP).
2. In the first days, weeks, months, of the VU10 i had to fight to get my shop back and all old stats of my shop.
3. MA promised several times, about when we get MAKE UP back, but still noting happens.
4. It cost a lot more to play EU. as before VU10!
5. They changed everything in the game.
6. EU lost a lot of community fun and charme (remember: old wild partys on CND / Beacons ... etc.)
7. EU is much larger as ever before, and the player base is still small. They don't find a way to populate EU.

I would vote yes, if i see Make up back and also beacons.
I would vote 50% happy 50% not happy at moment, if it would have this vote option.

Oh, not all NO voters are in the case of sell out :)

Yes MA dont know how to get new players so they trying to hand over the work on the planet partners.:lolup:
 
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No they don't. It's called a trade terminal and it is quite easy to dump everything in there.

The day you quit please be so kind to give me a shout so I can get your set of shadow, mod fap and mm for tt. When you have made your last withdraw please contact me again so I can buy your ava and plunder all the skills you left behind since they couldnt be put into the tt. I know it will take a while, cause your withdraw will take around 6 months to process.

Since you call this easy you must be quite the person IRL, kudos to you!
 
The day you quit please be so kind to give me a shout so I can get your set of shadow, mod fap and mm for tt. When you have made your last withdraw please contact me again so I can buy your ava and plunder all the skills you left behind since they couldnt be put into the tt. I know it will take a while, cause your withdraw will take around 6 months to process.

Since you call this easy you must be quite the person IRL, kudos to you!

You can obviously get more for your stuff by selling to other players as they value it more than MA does. MA has it's own value for it. It is the TT value. And they make it quite easy to sell.

How easy it is for you to sell to other players isn't really MA's concern. Nor the point of my post. Nor really worthy of this explanation, but here it is anyway.
 
You can obviously get more for your stuff by selling to other players as they value it more than MA does. MA has it's own value for it. It is the TT value. And they make it quite easy to sell.

How easy it is for you to sell to other players isn't really MA's concern. Nor the point of my post. Nor really worthy of this explanation, but here it is anyway.

Ah so you just ignore facts you dont like and thats how you make due. Got it! Thx for the explanation!
 
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Ah so you just ignore facts you dont like and thats how you make due. Got it! Thx for the explanation!

What the...? What facts don't I like and what's in your coffee?
 
voted NO as should all of you who have seen everything go to shit.


and to you yeah sayers and MA, is it really yes when u have so many saying no here?
 
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Atraie;2818186In 10 minutes i could come up with a better space system that: . . . [/QUOTE said:
very good post, should be moved to Dev´s Corner (+REP)



I still vote NO... About this facts:

1. since VU 10 i have to fight to get my profession back (MAKE UP).
2. In the first days, weeks, months, of the VU10 i had to fight to get my shop back and all old stats of my shop.
3. MA promised several times, about when we get MAKE UP back, but still noting happens.
4. It cost a lot more to play EU. as before VU10!
5. They changed everything in the game.
6. EU lost a lot of community fun and charme (remember: old wild partys on CND / Beacons ... etc.)
7. EU is much larger as ever before, and the player base is still small. They don't find a way to populate EU.

I would vote yes, if i see Make up back and also beacons.
I would vote 50% happy 50% not happy at moment, if it would have this vote option.

Oh, not all NO voters are in the case of sell out :)

True some things are still missing
Anyways there is lots of new things and EU got some nice improvements.

I miss the old content myself (taming,beacons) and remember some very nice old places that have simply vanished or lost its charme (Umbranoid Citys, Palms Corner, some other places).

The places is eyecandy what may be back sometime or not, but the missing content really sucks big time.

I love EU anyways, as it is still the most challanging RPG. Its really difficult to progress without losing (investing) thousands of dollars.
Thats what I love at EU, its the RCE
 
I think a lot has changed since 2006 some for the better and some worse. I think eu is in a new chapter of its life and there are some things to work out to get a nice balance between. Cost of playi g and levels of fun from game. The enhancements and improvements are getting slicker so I think it's an exciting time that we enter with so
E trpedation.

Mants
 
voted NO as should all of you who have seen everything go to shit.


and to you yeah sayers and MA, is it really yes when u have so many saying no here?

Still waiting for Kim or Bjorn to chime in with a heeeeeeell nooooooooo vote! :)
 
voted NO as should all of you who have seen everything go to shit.

I'm not saying things in EU are perfect, but nevertheless, I shall vote NO when I no longer enjoy playing EU, not when you tell me to.
 
I'm not saying things in EU are perfect, but nevertheless, I shall vote NO when I no longer enjoy playing EU, not when you tell me to.

Agree.

When the point comes I can feel I can tell others what to think, then I walk into a lake and never come back.

What the hell.
 
Not sure

I like the game? not to sure I like the micro manage of the peds, for example I dont like that they turned hunting shots into 1/10 of a ped and mining alike. Becoming a bank leads to the micro managing of the dollar and that leads to gread.
I still like the game and will keep playing for time to come but when I see this platform becoming a banking system or want to be banking system I have to wounder?

Good luck to us all because if thats is the case we will all need a little more help.
 
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