Entropia Holdings and the Virtual Stock Exchange

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Greetings potential Entropia Holdings Investor!

We are now officially accepting COMMITMENTS from investors.

Official Website: www.EntropiaHoldings.com

I have a list of investors available on EntropiaHoldings.com where each investor will be listed along with their first investment, total investment and last investment to date. This way we all know who is investing what.

To make your investment commitment, what I need from you is an email sent to jason@entropiaholdings.com with the following information:

Real Life Name:
Entropia Name:
Email:
Initial Investment:
Future Investments?:
Run for elected BOD?
Level of EU experience?

Once I have this information, you will be remain informed of the progress we are making on our goal and and when the appropriate time for actual investments to change hands.

Future investments will be collected based on agreed upon times. Just send me a PM letting me know when you would like to meet and I'll confirm and see you there.

None of your personal information will be available to the public. Simply your EU name. So do not worry. I need this information for obvious reasons. If I need to be able to get hold of you promptly.

So far, those running for Board Of Directors are:
Badger
Dion Red Strike

Below is the full scope and goal of what Entropia Holdings plans to establish within the Entropia Community.

Entropia Holdings Corp. Virtual Stock Exchange
This virtual stock exchange would originate initially in the Entropia Universe, a Virtual Universe owned and operated by Mindark PE AB based in Sweden. The concept could be ultilized in any virtual universe that enables it’s userbase to purchase land or property using any virtual currency. The explanations herein will be ultilizing the Entropia Universe for the sake of simplicity.

As a citizen of the Entropia Universe (EU) community I am establishing a virtual company entitled Entropia Holdings Corp. This company is an investment club whereby a community of investors will pool their virtual currency to purchase what is called a Land Area within the EU. This land area has the potential for large daily recurring revenue as well as overall value increases. The values of these Land Areas are dependent upon variables such as how often they are hunted on, location, the types of virtual animals installed into these properties and overall awareness of the benefits of said property.

As an investor of Entropia Holdings Corp, the virtual company that maintains the investments of it’s collective group, one can purchase virtual shares of stock in the company. The currency collected from the sale of these shares are then used to acquire further assets within the Universe. As the value of these purchased properties increase, as will the value of the shares of stock.

The Virtual Stock Exchange will take place by means of Terminals throughout the EU. These terminals will be the tool used to purchase and or sell shares of stock based on the approximate value of each share and the desired selling price of the shares owner. These shares of stock are backed by the value of the assets of Entropia Holdings Corp or other controlling enitity and will fluctuate like any other company in the real world based on the aforementioned variables but will increase in value more consistently than they will decrease based on the exponential growth of funds obtained through the recrurring revenue of the properties initially purchased with the funds which is the saved and used to make further proporty purchases.

Example: I form a company and issue 500,000 deeds/shares of stock at 1 unit of currency each. I then take the investment funds and purchase a Land Area at the price of 300,000 units of currency and use the remaining units of currency to install animals for hunting, maintenance etc. The property will then generate a recurring stream of revenue averaging 300 units of currency per day which is then saved and used to purchase a second Land Area. If the first Land Area is valued at 500,000 units of currency after being well established, the additional assets from the second Land Area will then cause the original shares of stock to increase in value by as much as 100% all of which is backed by the current market value of the Land Areas owned by the opertating company.

The exact value of each share of stock will be determined by monthly reports on the progress of these Land Areas and their respective earnings.

To ulitize a Stock Exchange Terminal, which can be located in cities or business disctricts throughout the EU as well as privately owned Banks, one must simply click on the terminal to operate it. To sell a share of stock, you simply place the deeds for your number of shares of stock into the terminal and select your desired sale price which can be higher or lower than the determined value at that time of the month based on how fast or slow you wish to sell those shares. To make a trade, whether it be 1 share or 1,000 shares of said stock, the seller will be charged a transaction fee. This feel will go to the owners/operators of the Universe/Virtual World. In EU’s case, the fee would go to Mindark or at least a percentage thereof. The remainder of said fee may go to the operator of the private banking facility the terminal is housed in, much like that of a real world ATM Machine.

Upon purchase of the share/shares of stock, there is also a transaction fee to be paid on behalf of the purchaser with the same breakup of fees distributed amongst the terminal holder and the Universe’ operator.

To establish shares of stock in a virtual company, the executor or founder of the investment company must contact the Universe’ operator, in this case Mindark and apply for an investment club license. In this process the founder of the new investment entitity must demonstrate a number of initial investors who have committed to investments into the new company. Once approved by Mindark, the company will be issued a number of shares of stock deeds to then be sold to their investors.

The number of shares issued will be based on 500,000 units of virtual currency, or in the case of Entropia Universe 500,000 PED’s which is the currency of EU. Each share of stock is worth 1 PED.

At such a time that a single deed for a share of stock is valued at more than what is commonly acceptable for an individual to purchase, that share of stock could be split into multiple shares of stock which would then bring the overal cost of said share down to a level that would make the purchase of such shares more accesible.

Security:
To protect investors/share holders in the event that the investment company’s operator could liquidate his/her company’s assets and convert the virtual currency into real world currency thus leaving the investors shares worthless, any sale of a company’s assets must be brokered by Mindark with the funds acquired through the sale of said assets to be distributed amongst the current holders of the company’s shares based on the sale price and associated value of those shares.

Company Director
The investment companies director will be responsible for founding the company and maintaining the properties he/she purchases and as such should be compensated for their time and effort. The Director will be allowed to purchase personal shares of stock like anyone else in the community and should receive bonus shares upon reaching various financial milestones. Quite possibly a percentage of any transaction fees from the sale/purchase of shares would be in order as well to offset some of the marketing money spent on building awareness for the investment company.

Who is Jason M. Appleton (a.k.a) MMA Big Show
MMA Big Show is a Mixed Martial Arts fight promoter based out of Cincinnati, OH and owner of the "Big Show of Pro/Am Mixed Martial Art" the MMA Big Show, LLC. Appleton has been promoting MMA events since 2006 which take place in Arenas, Casinos and the like all over. Having built the MMA Big Show from nothing while a Super Heavyweight training fighter into what is now capable of selling out venues all over with a full season television series just around the corner with the CinCW network, Appleton is also an MMORPG addict.

Jason started in MMA as a training fighter and got a crazy idea to start his own company he knew only one side of the business in. People thought he was crazy and wondered if he could pull it off. Now Jason owns and operates one of the largest Pro/Am Promotional Companies in the region built from the ground up learning as he pushed forward.

MMA Big Show is also a father of 3 and enjoys raising his family of 1 boy and 2 girls with his wife Lacy in their home in Loveland, OH.

Appleton is also partner in NakedIndie.com which is still under development and about to undergo a major graphics overhaul by Mindsmack, one of the worlds most sought after web developers. The project has been in development for over 3 years which budgets exceeding over $300,000 in backend custom development alone. The graphics overhaul is in efforts to finalize the site for an up coming beta launch for the public.

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Q&A and Business Plan
There is an initial Q&A PDF found on the official website as well as a business plan currently in it's beginning stages. Some additional Q&A can be found below.

1) Why invest with you instead of Entropia Investment Fund?
Personal preference maybe? I'm not knocking the EIF at all. My first encounter was that of lacking any real information. Hell before I started with Entropia Holdings I was looking for something to invest in which is how I got the idea for EHC (Entropia Holdings Corp), but after visiting their site I couldn't find any information and saw I had to register just to learn anything and few of the pages worked etc so I just assumed it was dead and moved on.

Aside from that, maybe EIF is a good investment for folks. But who founded it? Someone posted about it before and nobody could tell who ran the fund. Some "legendary" figure in the shadows apparently. Nobody seemed to know exactly.

I guess the main difference here is transparency in that everything about EHC is out in the open. We hide nothing, I hide nothing. It's not some exclusive opportunity offered only to the "elite", it's sole focus is being something everyone and anyone can participate in.

2) Will the personal details of the investors be available to the other investors? Will they be available to the board?
No and no. I will be the only person who has the personal details of our investors. The board won't need to have so and so phone number and if someone does need it, they can simply ask the investor for their number or email etc directly. I really don't see any need for it to be otherwise.


3) What is your personal motivation behind this fund?
To have fun! Get involved! Create something big! It's mans genetic destiny to create, develop and build! I have a hard time just sitting around shooting animals. I want to create and establish something larger than a number in my skills list! I want to have press releases about the great success and foresight of my concept when we have accomplished our goals and made some solid money. I want to build working relationships with serious members of the financial community so that when the time comes, we can create new ways of doing business in EU. Luck is Preparation meeting opportunity. Plain and simple. EHC is about forcing luck to benefit our group.

4) If you expect to make money from the revenue of a LA, why not just invest yourself?
Because that's boring!!!! Where is the fun in that? Ok, I buy and LA and then promote it, make some monthly PED and keep grinding. Yaay! No. I want to build something here that goes beyond an LA. I want to establish the basis for a real stock market in this game (looong term of course). I want to be the guy that heads up a group of supposed underdogs and achieves victory in something so many people said wont be done for one reason or another.

The way I see it, MA is willing to work with people who have strong ideas to help the community and the resources to do such. If I just buy an LA and run it, I've done nothing but that. If I establish a group of people who are after the same goal of working together to accomplish the same task, those relationships and resources will only continue to grow as will our reputation, the number of people wanting to get involved, our ability to sway MA in different directions to benefit the community, the list goes on.

Not to mention the difference between having one person with a vested interested in a Land Area compared to 200. What do you think will benefit a land owner more. Owning it himself while struggling to get people to visit it or have 200 people all sharing in ownership while those same people are hunting on the property together. COMMUNITY!!!!

5)How much ped do you have 'committed' from investors so far? Not how much collected, but how much committed.
Committed, in one month or over the first 6 months?
1 Month commitments I have over 15,000 PED, over 6 months close to 90,000 PED so far.

6)How much do you expect to commit to this investment?
Probably 50,000 PED as is the max. This is to ensure not any one party has a majority investment over others and ends up feeling like things should be ran his/her way over what the Board decides. This includes myself.

7)And, seeing as people want to know more about you, can you give us some background, how did you get into EU?
I got into EU after looking for something to replace Age Of Conan. I knew EU existed a long time ago and looked it up out of curiosity to see how things have changed. Now I'm kicking myself for not jumping in 2 years ago when I first heard about it.

8)You said you have a 'Benz', what type, how much did it cost, and how did you pay for it?
It's an E430 Sport and all I will say is that I paid cash for it and I certainly didn't get it at a government auction. I dont like debt and if I can't afford it I don't buy it, with the exception of Lacys Tahoe that we needed fast for the kids.

9)What assurance can you give the public that you won't take the money and run?
I could give as many assurances as anyone would want but it wouldn't mean anything. You are personally and hour and a half away from me. Wouldn't be hard to find me since I'm all over the place. All I can say is, if I had any plans whatsoever on ripping people off, there are much easier ways to do that not to mention I wouldn't be so open about who I am, where I'm from etc. I would be under a purely anonymous username and would be making up stories about who I am in RL to cover my trail. I think I've proven I'm not exactly stupid so I would like to think the public here could figure out that if I had sinister motives I could do better than this.

9)What is your first impression of the EU community? And the EF community?
Well, many are understandably skeptical yet curious while others are just jesters using others for jokes. Such is the way of the internet. Overall though I find many people here I admire and would love to build relationships with such as you, Nobert and others. It's all relative to the individual. I really couldn't brand a community one way or another on the notions of a few.
 
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The Virtual Stock Exchange will take place by means of Terminals throughout the EU.

MindArk has agreed to add these terminals?
 
Or rather re-activate the existing ones?

Wow

Either way. Has MindArk agreed?

Edit - based on this post:

What terminals?
No idea what you mean.
Please explain.


The OP doesn't really understand that the terminals have been inactive for years. Seems to show how little he understands about Entropia.
 
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Another thing to add is that MA used to drop pec in the loots but changed that for some reason...
 
MA hasnt agreed to anything yet. It's a plan!
I didn't even know there were such terminals when I wrote this.

If tehse types of terminals already exist, then maybe now they will serve some use. I'm working on it
 
is there a real life Limited company backing this venture? do funds go to that company directly (ie in the real world) or only through the game? theres an awful lot of personal information requested for an ingame service.
 
MA hasnt agreed to anything yet. It's a plan!
I didn't even know there were such terminals when I wrote this.

If tehse types of terminals already exist, then maybe now they will serve some use. I'm working on it


See if you can get them to re-activate the Vote terminals too whilst you're at it.

They've not worked for years either. ;)
 
As far as the personal information goes, I really couldn't care less right now what you give me. It's not for me in the sense that, if you decide to take a month break from EU and something happens, I'd like to be able to contact you. If you dont feel it's needed, supply your name and email address and leave the rest blank. It's to help you not me.
 
MA hasnt agreed to anything yet. It's a plan!
I didn't even know there were such terminals when I wrote this.

If tehse types of terminals already exist, then maybe now they will serve some use. I'm working on it

Ah OK, run around a bit and you will see them. In the places that normally house the crafting machines in the entrance corridors of the older trade terminals (as well as the "bloody great big building" in Hades) :)

Sounds like a interesting plan then. As well as sending MA an email, why not also post this in the Wishlist Section in this forum. But I do remember reading somewhere that MA had to shelve the Stock Exchange thing for compliance reasons or something, cant recall exactly. Old thread about it here somewhere.

All sorts of great ideas in there and MA do look at it, as sometimes the wishes come true.
 
Well, if things go well I'll be in discussion with them regarding this and if the concept is shown to be supported well enough I will of course bring this thread to the attention of MA to support the community desires.

I would love to read the thread you are referring to if you can find it. I will search as well.
 
Example: I form a company and issue 500,000 deeds/shares of stock at 1 unit of currency each. I then take the investment funds and purchase a Land Area at the price of 300,000 units of currency and use the remaining units of currency to install animals for hunting, maintenance etc. The property will then generate a recurring stream of revenue averaging 300 units of currency per day which is then saved and used to purchase a second Land Area. If the first Land Area is valued at 500,000 units of currency after being well established, the additional assets from the second Land Area will then cause the original shares of stock to increase in value by as much as 100% all of which is backed by the current market value of the Land Areas owned by the opertating company.

Can you please clarify the above quote? Using your numbers (300 ped/day x 365 days/year = 109,500 ped minus some factor for maintenance of LA), it will take you approximately 3 years to save enough peds for purchasing Land Area #2 (not counting an extra 200K for new DNA if that is in your plan). But in those 3 years do you expect the cost of Land Areas to remain flat, or do you expect them to rise in price as they have for the past few years?
 
It's a basic example of potential in how the system would work. Not a white paper of perfection written by arithmeticians and economists. There are obviously variables to consider in the actual plans.

Guys, can I tell you right now that I am one man learning as I go and that you shouldn't expect perfection in everything I say? I would think it goes without saying but there is a reason that I have called on an election for a Board Of Directors in this effort, but since I've gotten much more flak than support I am forced to figure things out further on my own which is fine with me, but don't expect every thing I say to be gospel.

Instead of forming your comments as attacks on my fallibility, why not try and become a constructive part of the team and help perfect the things you see wrong?


Thanks.
 
well i hope you are registered in each state in the US that you take money from if you are succesful this is a felonious offence... beware man... listen to strangelove... hope i and he save you some federal troubles
 
Warning - Warning - Warning​

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i am not saying this isnt a legit business opportunity... just you have legal obligations... in the USA... i would definatly be aware of the law... before you break them and end up in jail... no BS... do your own due diligence... consult a lawyer...
 
It's a basic example of potential in how the system would work. Not a white paper of perfection written by arithmeticians and economists. There are obviously variables to consider in the actual plans.

Guys, can I tell you right now that I am one man learning as I go and that you shouldn't expect perfection in everything I say? I would think it goes without saying but there is a reason that I have called on an election for a Board Of Directors in this effort, but since I've gotten much more flak than support I am forced to figure things out further on my own which is fine with me, but don't expect every thing I say to be gospel.

Instead of forming your comments as attacks on my fallibility, why not try and become a constructive part of the team and help perfect the things you see wrong?


Thanks.

My questions was not meant to be an attack, just requesting clarification of a pretty basic assumption. If you assume LA prices will rise, then you will not be able to buy another with your earnings from the first, but the value of the initial shares will rise. If you assume the LA prices stay flat, then you are offering anyone who gives you money a roughly 20% ROI from the peds generated by the LA. It seems an important clarification when you are talking about investing $50,000.
 
Perhaps the founders of the EIF can enlighten us all then since there is obviously no problem with them.

Or am I somehow the only person who needs to be concerned with such laws?

Just askin.
 
Perhaps the founders of the EIF can enlighten us all then since there is obviously no problem with them.

Or am I somehow the only person who needs to be concerned with such laws?

Just askin.

For the price of $200 - 300, you can most likely get an hour appointment with a lawyer who specializes in securities law (not labor law or maritime law) in Ohio.

S/he will know the Ohio Securities Commissions laws and regulations since you are living in Ohio.

It's the price of filling up the Tahoe twice. I'd think it a good investment before starting a fund.
 
Yes, I have a lawyer.

But to this day not a single person has answered MY question.

I would think that in all this time the folks of the EIF know all too well about me and my plans. I find it hard to believe how they wouldn't have chimed in with their research on the any troublesome legalities with regards to such an investment fund/company.

Why have I been singled out with such requests and not them?
I dont really have a problem doing it, but what I will say is that when I have, it wont be made public here for the same reason that had the EIF done the same, it isn't available here. I simply don't see anyone beating down their door asking for these things.

Why?

Simple question I feel fairly entitled to considering the honesty and forthright manner of my answering all of your questions.

Unless it is of course people within the EIF who don't want my competition and using what they can to try and sabotage my efforts.

You tell me..
 
I think that what you are up against here is a few factors.

1. you are pretty new to this universe and people are seeing that as a possible weakness , illustrated by the fact that you didnt know about the existing entropia exchange.

2.There is a possibililty that people have spotted that you might be "harvesting" information from longer term players which is maybe why eif peeps dont want to chime in and add knowledge to a possible competitor.

3.They might also have spotted that your intentions albeit very good with some great ideas envolve you using as little of your own money as possible.
I think the only way you will get MA to listen to you is if you offer them an investment ( akin to ND and Dethifiers) then they might listen, Im pretty sure that even if MA didnt ,the player base would if you did the investing and then offered shares.

Just my 2p .

GL
 
thanks for not answering my question, the answers you have not provided serve to tell me all i need to know.

as for EIF, i will suggest that they may not be based in the US so may not have the same legal issues as you (which may or may not even exist, there are misconceptions being alluded to), they may have addressed concerns to those that asked questions, or they dont care and have just carried on regardless, built up trust and business slowly over time. EIF should be none of your concern.
 
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I have no investment or any interest in any fund in EU or any other game. I'd like to invest but I know better.

Where is EIFund located? You've made it abundently clear you are located in Ohio.

Let me ask you this. Before you started promoting fights in Ohio did you check the regulations? I assume that Ohio has a boxing commission or other commission that regulates what you are promoting. Just because Nevada and New Jersey permit boxing does not mean every other state does. And Nevada has different rules than New Jersey per my understanding. When boxing promoters can't get santioned by one state they go shopping for commissions. A few Mike Tyson fights come to mind. Or am I wrong.

Beyond the boxing commission (or whatever), I would assume that you have liablity insurance, E&O insurance, that you are required to have some sort of security in place and that provisions are made in case one of the fighters suffers a serious injury.

Or did you just post on a message board based in Thailand where someone told you that they went to a cock fight in Malaysia so you should be just fine?
 
I am watching your posts for the last 2-3 days.
Firstly i believe these kind of funds are always positive for the game.
The only problem is trust. And seems MA for some reason doesnt want to create a platform in its game for ideas like these. I mean to allow share issue and management ingame to solve the trust problem. This will provide some kind of challenge or conflict and thats the only thing MA doesnt want in its game.

Back to you now...
The guy behind EIF is an Austrian guy as far as i know. Like you he has some kind of succesful RL business. And this is where the similarities between you/EH and him/EIF end.

The guy is a member of Via Dolorosa. Top ten skilled society hugely respected in the EU community. Via Dolorosa assured the masses that EIF is trustworthy and many of its members were the first to invest. Do you have someone who is willing to risk his reputation (a top-10 society) for you?

The guy started in the streets mainly. I remember him advertise EIF in PA or Twins for countless hours/day. And then he was auctioning like crazy to increase the value of EIF shares with his profits. Only place i see you is in this forum. Writing....writing....and writing....and writing...(Oh yeah and you put 300 peds to hunt and craft :D)...

You thought to invest to EIF but their website was not updated and lacked information. Well what do you expect from their website? To show the latest meteo report in your city? Or the price of eggs in that shop in the corner of your street in Ohio? Their site shows what is necessary to be shown. The share price, the income from their activities, their rules, news and thats it.
You still use the above excuse to spoil EIF and you spread false info in all your posts and then you write:

Unless it is of course people within the EIF who don't want my competition and using what they can to try and sabotage my efforts.

And then you are writing:

Perhaps the founders of the EIF can enlighten us all then since there is obviously no problem with them.
Or am I somehow the only person who needs to be concerned with such laws?
Just askin.


So from one side you suggest that people from EIF dont want your competition and they try to sabotage you....
And from the other side you are asking them questions.
Have you realised that its you having a problem here...not EIF...
People here they ask questions about EH...not EIF. If they have questions about EIF they will ask EIF. If you cant answer them dont try to mix EIF in your sayings....

EIF started how it started. And is there now.
How they did that its their business. They had a plan or whatever they sticked to that and they are where they are now.
Just because you copy/pasted the same plan with them they arent obliged to answer or cover the lack of knowledge you have for this game....
Especially when you use false info for them to attract attention....


Good luck for your fund.

Sil$
 
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The guy was a member(maybe he still is) of Via Dolorosa. Top ten skilled society hugely respected in the EU community. Via Dolorosa assured the masses that EIF is trustworthy and many of its members were the first to invest.

Yes, he is still a member of Via Dolorosa society. A highly respected member of our society. It's also true that some of us in Via Dolorosa was the first ones to invest in EIF.
 
The guy was a member(maybe he still is) of Via Dolorosa. Top ten skilled society hugely respected in the EU community.

This is an excellent point and perhaps a learning lesson for anyone who is thinking about establishing some sort of fund within Entropia. Get established in a good society first. Then offer your service to those players. Then branch out to the community at large.
 
This idea isnt necessarily new, though I like it a lot !
Anshe from Anshe Chung Studios set up something like this, not ingame though, when they started the stock company thats behind the Anshe EU bank.
http://dse.anshechung.com/
I wouldnt wonder if they havent spoken to MA already to get it ingame.

I just guess its really difficult to establish a stock trading platform in a virtual world that utilizes a real cash economy. There are probably so many different laws in all the different countries to obey...
Just remember the disclaimer for the US people that MA put under their announcement of going public in an IPO soon.
 
But I do remember reading somewhere that MA had to shelve the Stock Exchange thing for compliance reasons or something, cant recall exactly. Old thread about it here somewhere.

All sorts of great ideas in there and MA do look at it, as sometimes the wishes come true.


There was a bug in the beginning of the game with the PE exchange terminals and some people figured out a way to get Ped from the terminals :eek:

I am not sure if that is the only reason they got shut down, but they went down quick after MA caught wind of the bug.
 
Hi Jason,

I would suggest having a chat to the folk at MA in regards to the legal issues that may impede your plan ... if any. I do not think you will run into any that will though.

Location will not be an issue for you as you are able to register your business in any country that you have designated as your head office (Office Virtualisation), so you are not limited to the location you live/currently have your EH business name registered.

If US laws somehow impede your plans, simply register your business with it's head office in whaever country has laws that do not. ;)

Downside is, you may be up for a fee to have the shared office setup (~ 150 a month they start from over here in australia, cheaper in a lot of other countries), though you do get all calls to you rerouted, a receptionist to answer all these calls, a dedicated *small 1 room* office space and a shared boardroom which can be booked when required :D

Sparkz
 
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