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    Hogglo hunters: how often do they miss you? (An Evader study)

    Hello, good hunters of Calypso. I'm Doer and you may remember me from such blockbuster productions as Defense Skills; OR, everything you ever wanted to know about Evade but were too lazy to search for. I've seen a lot of talk since the VU about Hogglos and how often they miss avatars of different Evader levels. A veteran player posited the theory that there are discrete levels of mob HA that are reached at certain levels of Evader. I'd like to test these things out.

    So, i'm looking for two things. First, anyone who solos Hogglos is invited to post here their observations about how often the hogglos miss them, and their level of Evader professional standing (since VU 9.2). It would be great if there were hit and miss counts, but that not being very practical, something like "4 misses in 20 hogglos killed" will still be helpful. If you prefer, you can PM me your report and i'll keep your identity secret.

    Second, I will be offering a discount on my fapping service for players who want to solo Hogglos. I will just charge my costs ~(FAP decay and ME). Anyone with enough HP will find that paying 2 pecs per 120 hp heal from me is immensely cheaper than wearing two times the armor and fapping yourself. I will keep track of hits and misses, but you are welcome to do the same for verification if you like. This offer is only good for avatars that i consider necessary. Currently, that means we need volunteers that have:
    Evader level between 38 and 41 and over 45


    You are welcome to remain anonymous on this list if you care to, but the usual rule for naming the team to include my name as fapper holds.

    Code:
    Evader level  Name          Missrate
    9             AkiranBlade   0%
    31            A-bomb         0%
    32            dbelinfante   ~10%
    ~33           N/A -- i would take this one, but it doesn't seem necessary
    36.8          Coffee         0% (my test)
    38             Vedder        ~5%
    42            Sacklitch,thebuzz 30-35%
    43.4          Black Hawk   27+-4% (several repetitions)
    ~49          Anon.          ~41% (two repetitions)
    84.3          Star           ~52%
    I already tested some on Caperon and Chomper a few VUs ago, but i do keep track of those hunts whenever i get a chance to FAP for someone, so you can help out and get some great fapping even if you don't like Hogglos.

    Here's the updated plot of the results from the other thread and this one:

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    Last edited by Doer; 05-09-2008 at 13:19. Reason: Narrowed range of interest, added 3rd-party reports and new plot
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    Hi I wonder if this was prompted by our hunt-come chat last night


    Anyhow here are my observations from previous to this VU:


    Evader Level - Weapon - Frequency of Misses
    ~ 28 - ML-35 - Not at all
    ~ 31 - MM + A204 - Occassional
    ~ 34 - MM + A204 - Often
    ~ 34 - MM + Shear Pro600 - More Often

    And now my experience this VU
    ~ 9 - IM2870 + A104 - Seems like not at all but I'm sure maybe once or twice in 4 or 5 hunts but could've been down to lag


    I hope this helps the understanding of Hogglo hit ability.

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    Lvl 35 Evader, Phantom +5Bs, LP485 + Bull Tac 50, average is around 5/6 shots to 1 hit.
    That said these hogs r hitting harder than ever, I use to get a stream on 1 dmg but since last coupla VUs it's 30+ and many more crit hits.

    imo the following VU changes seems to have occured->

    if(MA.presentCashFlow.crap ĶĶ MA.HolidaysComingUp)
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    I can confirm you still take 100% hits as a level 31 evader .

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    I thought itīs common belief that the mob animation isnīt related to their real attacks, so how can anyone know how often a mob misses him?

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    Lvl 42 evader.
    Miss 3/10-4/10 of the times

    This isent 100% sure tho since i havent kept track on it. But its around that much they miss based on yesterdays hogglo runs.

    Ill do a test some day and come back here and write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GullyFoyle View Post
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    I thought itīs common belief that the mob animation isnīt related to their real attacks, so how can anyone know how often a mob misses him?
    Ah, good question. Some mobs have a specific animation connected with their attack (snables spit acid, caperon swing a tentacle, tantillions lunge) and don't. Obviously the first group is the easiest to follow. Hogglos and a few other big mobs have something like a triple attack animation per real attack. It's about 3.25 seconds between each attack (and always the same time for a type of mob), and if you get used to recognizing the rhythm, you recognize when you are missed.

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    Lvl 42 evader.
    Miss 3/10-4/10 of the times

    This isent 100% sure tho since i havent kept track on it. But its around that much they miss based on yesterdays hogglo runs.

    Ill do a test some day and come back here and write.
    That's interesting compared to ~0 at level 30. It seems that the interesting area to investigate carefully is 30-45 or so.

    Thanks for your posts so far.
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    i can confirm a missing rate of 30-35% on lvl 42 evader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacklitch View Post
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    i can confirm a missing rate of 30-35% on lvl 42 evader.
    and what if you used something like a Korss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkiranBlade View Post
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    and what if you used something like a Korss?
    I currently use mkV me, Strikehammer and desert stalker so thats what i based my hitting rate on.

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