Digital Abduction Interview

JohnCapital · Apr 20, 2011

My understanding was that the mob dropping the majority of the es500 scanners was a mob on one o fhis LAs. If I got that incorrect, then I publicly apologize.

As for the "press release" all that had to be said was "I went hunting on VU day, just to see what's out there, and got this sweet loot. Tossed it on auction & giggled like a little girl when it sold. When I went back to keep hunting I started crapping my pants when I was getting more of them."

It doesn't take 2 months to say this. Anything said at this long time frame is suspect to serious scrutiny, which simply increases as more time passes.

(NOTE: This is said as JC the player, NOT JC the mod)

narfi · Apr 20, 2011

Oleg said:
Um but the source for this is the man himself, not a lynch mob.

Could you show me where DA said that there were Street Kings on his Land Areas?
I looked there on opening day and they were not. Maybe I missed them and the spawn was moved the day after, but I highly doubt that.

like I said, im just pointing out the discrepancies. I believe that people are not interested in the facts because of the nature of threads I have witnessed here over the past months, but I truly did believe that JC was above that.

If you are told a lie long enough and loud enough you will start to believe it.

narfi

JohnCapital · Apr 20, 2011

narfi said:
but I truly did believe that JC was above that.

I do try to verify as much data as I can before each post. However, there are times when, yes, I succumb to using my memory of information rather than double check every fact.

Sorry if this disappoints you. I'll try harder in the future.

Oleg · Apr 20, 2011

narfi said:
Could you show me where DA said that there were Street Kings on his Land Areas?

I didn't mean that specifically, I meant the part about him being one of the first (possibly the first?) to get an ES500 and perhaps the person who got the most. I don't know anything about mobs on Rocktropia and where they are. That, and the bit about the unannounced event and press release which never appeared, all came from his own mouth.

If the mobs are not on his LA then that makes it more suspicious imo. Without any prior knowledge, wouldn't he hunt the mobs on his own LAs before anything else?

JohnCapital · Apr 20, 2011

Oleg said:
If the mobs are not on his LA then that makes it more suspicious imo. Without any prior knowledge, wouldn't he hunt the mobs on his own LAs before anything else?

In all fairness, Oleg, that's a poor "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of argument.

Oleg · Apr 20, 2011

JohnCapital said:
In all fairness, Oleg, that's a poor "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of argument.

I don't think so, I think it's like I said.

If I suddenly owned some LAs after a VU, the first thing I'd do is check those LAs. I think I'm right in saying that those LAs only existed, or were only owned by DA, after the same VU that started the ES500s and all that other stuff dropping (Narfi I'm sure can confirm or deny that). So they were brand new to him and I believe also had brand new mobs on them at that time.

But instead of hunting the new mobs on his new LAs, he immediately goes off hunting some other thing, which just happens to drop the most valuable item available at that point.

I can't claim to know all the facts but I remain very concerned about the role of Digital Abduction.

My guess is that when their website shows up, it'll be some pay-for-play rip-off designed to profit from the naive dreams of musicians, much like Jango Airplay which also has Rocktropia connections and which I've expressed concerns about in the past.

mastermesh · Apr 20, 2011

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now on to more serious stuff, lol.

Digging in the internet's history a bit.

[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[whois.verisign-grs.com]Whois Server Version 2.0Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information. Domain Name: DIGITALABDUCTION.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS21.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS22.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 22-mar-2011
Creation Date: 20-may-2010
Expiration Date: 20-may-2012NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

I'm not speculating or anything here in this post... just digging for more info...

Looks like this website was registered in May, 2010, so I guess the idea has been here over a year?!?.. Could have bought the domain off of some random person that made it, but probably not likely? When did DA manager first make an appearance?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

A FUTURISTIC VIRTUAL REALITY WITH STATE OF THE ART GRAPHICS AND HUNDREDS OF REALTIME STRATEGY DECISIONS.
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www.digitalabduction.com

That cache shows a youtube video... this one

That does not necessarily mean anything though?

Not sure what the tour dates thing and introductory pack giveaway was about?
Here's a screenie showing those dates.

It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Apr 2, 2011

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/member.php?39798-DAManager

Joined
10-23-2010

Last Activity
Today 17:54

still digging a little.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

October 6th, 2010
I am fairly certain I lack the skills required to explain the details of the meeting I had today. My focus on the VP Contest sponsors had to end short (2pm) as I had a meeting in Hollywood for a non-VP Contest related company. This particular company, Digital Abduction, is focusing on synchronizing the music industry with the virtual reality world of Rocktropia. I had the pleasure of meeting with the creator and owner of Rocktropia at Neverdie Studios as well as the head honcho of Nuclear Blast USA. Nuclear Blast, by the sheer number of bands they are associated with, is regarded as the largest heavy metal label in the world. I had been in negotiations with Nuclear Blast for the past three months to integrate their label and associated bands into Rocktropia and today was the day I officially closed the deal.

Neverdie Studios is an impressive place, as it is located in the El Capitan Theatre. Their office, usurping an entire floor, is window lined from floor to ceiling with an amazing view of the Kodak Theater and the Hollywood and Highlands Shopping mall. The virtual world of Rocktropia is unlike any other game I have ever seen. Breathtaking and detailed in-game scenery allows game players to escape from modern reality with the ability to socialize, hunt, mine, craft, explore and visit their favorite music artists virtual destinations. In addition, everything in this virtual world has a value to it, with over $400,000,000 circulating amongst the players. Rocktropia is in the process of shifting the paradigm on how artists and musicians can make money and with the addition of Nuclear Blast, they are sure to gain even more exposure than they already have.

Hard to tell from the above if Nuclear Blast and Digital Abduction are one in the same?

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Since Neverdie Studios probably won't ever list who their employees are, I guess I'll add one to the list of employees that are not suppossed to have avatars... and throw out a new question/twist on the questions..

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It's apparent NDS has an internship program I'm guessing? What's the rules on interns as 'employees' in regard to the planet partner contract not allowing planet partners or their employees to participate!??

narfi · Apr 20, 2011

Oleg said:
If the mobs are not on his LA then that makes it more suspicious imo. Without any prior knowledge, wouldn't he hunt the mobs on his own LAs before anything else?

Its been a while so my memory may be flawed, it was about 20 hours after the vu came out when my friend Skeezer found a shark north of BAMF and called me to kill it with him. I tped to him while he was afk in his vtol and agroed the shark so killed it and got a 180ish ped esi. I don't think anyone had found sharks up till that point.

It is my assumption (my assumptions are as prone to error as yours) that DA had checked out his LAs and found only baby zombies so went exploring other places just like everyone else was.

Once people knew there were scanners looting not many with skills to kill sharks were at all curious to go exploring the vast ocean looking for the possibly non existent presence of sea life. (I had done a short flight over some water areas early in the day and saw nothing)

Playing the devils advocate here, I could use your argument to show that DA didn't know about the sharks on his own LA so therefore wouldn't have known about the street kings until he found them.

narfi

Damage Dead · Apr 20, 2011

used to chat with DA on skype most days, no Mic here atm so have'nt been able to speak with him..

Think you will find a dude looking to pull the wretched RT out of the dirt and get some more attention to our universe!

I dono about the es500 scandel from him yet so can't comment but otherwise all the best with the events and website.

Mitch113 · Apr 20, 2011

JohnCapital said:
Call it 19 scanners.

This is with what i do not agree with you. You have no any data to say such thing, just you divide the total quantity sold to auction by 2 and say it is the part of DMA ... You even forgot all people who sold their OLD scanner as soon as they saw it was possible to loot it again !!!
And you give as proof the thread where DMA sell a scanner (he does not specify how many).

I was on RT the day this happend, DMA trade me P2P to show me scanner, their was not 19 ... As soon as the firsts scanner were looted, LOT of people have run to the good mob in order to try to loot one.

The same this day i think i was one of the first to loot a FAP-90 and suddenly many people arrives (because when you say it to 1 you say it to all ... informations like this are shared very fast).

I know more than 5 people who looted 2 or more scanners !! And their was hundreds of people on RT this date and ofc i do not know all people ...

So for me your calculation is completly based on false data.

PW3CKA · Apr 20, 2011

Mitch113 said:
This is with what i do not agree with you. You have no any data to say such thing, just you divide the total quantity sold to auction by 2 and say it is the part of DMA ... You even forgot all people who sold their OLD scanner as soon as they saw it was possible to loot it again !!!
And you give as proof the thread where DMA sell a scanner (he does not specify how many).

I was on RT the day this happend, DMA trade me P2P to show me scanner, their was not 19 ... As soon as the firsts scanner were looted, LOT of people have run to the good mob in order to try to loot one.

The same this day i think i was one of the first to loot a FAP-90 and suddenly many people arrives (because when you say it to 1 you say it to all ... informations like this are shared very fast).

I know more than 5 people who looted 2 or more scanners !! And their was hundreds of people on RT this date and ofc i do not know all people ...

So for me your calculation is completly based on false data.

You are just wrong, DAmanager claimed himself he looted a lot of them.. And that he made a big profit

And the main thing is that it doesn't really matter if it is 10k ped or 60k ped...

And most people who went looting them are not selling them, because they are not noobs and they know what "wait" means. Also your sentence about hundreds of people on rocktropia is just showing how much you know about EU in general

John_connor · Apr 20, 2011

PW3CKA said:
Also your sentence about hundreds of people on rocktropia is just showing how much you know about EU in general

Not getting involved in an argument I know nothing about hehe but on this one point the big VU day all this kicked off there were indeed 100+ people on the rock City Of Dreams was a flood of green dots

Mitch113 · Apr 20, 2011

PW3CKA said:
You are just wrong, DAmanager claimed himself he looted a lot of them.. And that he made a big profit

And the main thing is that it doesn't really matter if it is 10k ped or 60k ped...

And most people who went looting them are not selling them, because they are not noobs and they know what "wait" means. Also your sentence about hundreds of people on rocktropia is just showing how much you know about EU in general

He claimed it, does it mean he looted 19 ?
But you are true : it doesn't really matter if it is 10k ped or 60k ped...

And about the number of people on RT the date of the VU : it just show you know nothing ...

BlackHawk · Apr 20, 2011

Everyone could loot that item. But the problem is that HE DID. And he was the first, or one of the first who did. And whatever he says or does, we will always suspect him he is a cheater. That is why in this type of business, people who work for the company, their family, those who are involved with making the game, SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE AS ACTIVECOMPETITORS INSIDE.

As a form of respect for paying customers, if not anything else.

I do not understand why you feel the need to defend him, when he was the one who claimed he would explain whatever happened that day. And he never did.

Mitch113 · Apr 20, 2011

PW3CKA said:
Also your sentence about hundreds of people on rocktropia is just showing how much you know about EU in general

Please, if you are not afraid to feel ridiculous can you explain to the noob that i am ?

As you was certainly not on RT this date i am really interesting to know how many people was their ? 10 ? 20 ? 50 ?

:laugh:

Xen · Apr 20, 2011

BlackHawk said:
Everyone could loot that item. But the problem is that HE DID. And he was the first, or one of the first who did. And whatever he says or does, we will always suspect him he is a cheater. That is why in this type of business, people who work for the company, their family, those who are involved with making the game, SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE AS ACTIVECOMPETITORS INSIDE.

As a form of respect for paying customers, if not anything else.

I do not understand why you feel the need to defend him, when he was the one who claimed he would explain whatever happened that day. And he never did.

I disagree with BH a lot, but not this time. He is right. DA should not be playing, period. At most he logs in to do promo stuff like running events and buying sweat.

Mitch113 · Apr 20, 2011

BlackHawk said:
Everyone could loot that item. But the problem is that HE DID. And he was the first, or one of the first who did. And whatever he says or does, we will always suspect him he is a cheater. That is why in this type of business, people who work for the company, their family, those who are involved with making the game, SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE AS ACTIVECOMPETITORS INSIDE.

As a form of respect for paying customers, if not anything else.

I do not understand why you feel the need to defend him, when he was the one who claimed he would explain whatever happened that day. And he never did.

I do not defend any body, i just not agree when i read false informations. And I have read many not true things here when the thread concern Rocktropia.

Every body is free to play on the planet he wants. I do not understand why some people spend their time shouting against RT people and saying lies !

The problem that old players, who have ubber items, are not pleased when they see it is possible to loot them again, it is not our fault, it is not RT or ND fault. You know it is MA who decide ! It is MA who gives loot ! Even without RT such things will occurs.
I remember before the SGA some people shouting that if SGA items have too nice stats it will reduce the value of their assets.

This is a problem that has to be manage by this old players and MA. Nothing is the fault of RT players or RT owner, has we do not have control on this.

Tomorrow we will see the same problem with NI, Arkadia, etc ...

Do you really think a planet partner accept to invest million dollar if he is not able to provide nice items to attract people on his territory ? If a new planet is able to produce only L items it will be unfair and MA will not be able to find any planet partner !

Some people said : no problem, just it must be planet specific item that can't be used on Calypso ...
Yes, lets close all the borders. Lets ask again visa to travel between countries. Lets put again custom taxes....
I do not like such world, IRL or IG .... But we are all free to have our opinion ...

P.S. For me, and till i see any proof i am wrong, DMA is a land owner who decided to attract music bands inside RT to get profit on their installation and on the growth of the planet. Certainly he has marketing discussions with NDS, but i do not think he has any strategical information about loots. So i do not see any purpose to ask him to not play as he wants.

I agree it is not fair to buy sweat for 10 peds. I said him. And i think he changed his method. I do not agree because it create trouble in the economical system.

Each time i will see he does something that i do not agree i will continue to say him. But for the moment i do not see any reason for which he should stop to play.

Perhaps i am wrong, perhaps you are wrong.... it is just opinion sharing ... and our Police is MA, so if MA allows it i think that it has not to be discussed. We just need to be sure that MA check the activity of this kind of players time to time !!

CodeMonkey · Apr 20, 2011

Xen said:
I disagree with BH a lot, but not this time. He is right. DA should not be playing, period. At most he logs in to do promo stuff like running events and buying sweat.

"DA manages a couple of land areas that are assigned to the artists coming into the game." (narfi blog)

ok, so to my understanding, DA is a LA owner/investor.

isnt this what deathifier is doing now, he is invested in arkadia, and has owned land areas on calypso for years.

i think we might have to treat DA in the same respect that we treat deathifier, because these relationships seem like they are the same with each others respective planet partners.

so in that respect, to tell DA not to play, we would then have to tell deathifier, and all other LAowner/investor players to not play aswell.

i could be wrong, but thats what it seems to me.

BlackHawk · Apr 20, 2011

CodeMonkey said:
"DA manages a couple of land areas that are assigned to the artists coming into the game." (narfi blog)

ok, so to my understanding, DA is a LA owner/investor.

isnt this what deathifier is doing now, he is invested in arkadia, and has owned land areas on calypso for years.

i think we might have to treat DA in the same respect that we treat deathifier, because these relationships seem like they are the same with each others respective planet partners.

so in that respect, to tell DA not to play, we would then have to tell deathifier, and all other LAowner/investor players to not play aswell.

i could be wrong, but thats what it seems to me.

You are right. That is what it seems.

Xen · Apr 20, 2011

CodeMonkey said:
"DA manages a couple of land areas that are assigned to the artists coming into the game." (narfi blog)

ok, so to my understanding, DA is a LA owner/investor.

isnt this what deathifier is doing now, he is invested in arkadia, and has owned land areas on calypso for years.

i think we might have to treat DA in the same respect that we treat deathifier, because these relationships seem like they are the same with each others respective planet partners.

so in that respect, to tell DA not to play, we would then have to tell deathifier, and all other LAowner/investor players to not play aswell.

i could be wrong, but thats what it seems to me.

Wrong for 99% of land owners, who simply paid ped in game for a land area and that's it.

Deathifier is closer, but 1) he hardly ever plays (hunt, mine, etc.), that I've noticed, and 2) does not seem to have the same type of relationship (on Calypso) with the planet partner as explained if you follow the link in the first post. Now I've heard that he is an investor with Arkadia, that would be closer, but again, he's not logging in and making discoveries, etc.

CodeMonkey · Apr 20, 2011

Xen said:
Wrong for 99% of land owners, who simply paid ped in game for a land area and that's it.

yah your right with that, if i didnt state it clearly i meant to say (LAowner/invester), both in one person, or company.

deathifier did change his statis to this new type of player when he invested with arkadia.

to the extent of what deathifier invested in i dont know, but he has an active avatar and could log in whenever he wants, wether he chooses to or not.

i dont know the rules for these types of players, but the thing that is common is that both deathifer and DA share these traits, and i beleive should be treated the same in all instances.

StrongMinded · Apr 20, 2011

CodeMonkey said:
yah your right with that, if i didnt state it clearly i meant to say (LAowner/invester), both in one person, or company.

deathifier did change his statis to this new type of player when he invested with arkadia.

to the extent of what deathifier invested in i dont know, but he has an active avatar and could log in whenever he wants, wether he chooses to or not.

i dont know the rules for these types of players, but the thing that is common is that both deathifer and DA share these traits, and i beleive should be treated the same in all instances.

There is a difference though. Death doesn´t own a LA on a planet he has invested in. If he gets a free LA on Arkadia then that will be a different story. Currently i can´t see any way for D to get inside knowledge since the planet isn´t released yet.

Leona · Apr 20, 2011

Xen said:
Wrong for 99% of land owners, who simply paid ped in game for a land area and that's it.

Deathifier is closer, but 1) he hardly ever plays (hunt, mine, etc.), that I've noticed, and 2) does not seem to have the same type of relationship (on Calypso) with the planet partner as explained if you follow the link in the first post. Now I've heard that he is an investor with Arkadia, that would be closer, but again, he's not logging in and making discoveries, etc.

If Deathifier actually plays (as in looting professions) or not doesn't make a difference really. He is in the same shoes.

And any decent person would acknowledge the concerns of the player base that there is at least a minimal potential for inside knowledge and gaining advantage of it. And so would the involved planet partner, again, if it is a professional and trustworthy company.

So at least we would see some public statements how far that investment goes and how far the investors involvement into decisions goes.
And we would hear some words that makes us players be able to trust that the planet partner is willing / able to treat sensible balancing informations hidden from the investor.
Thats just some really simple things a professional investor and a thrustworthy planet partner would do. A bit transparency and stuff.

And it is exactly what Deathifier and the Arkadia guys managed to do.

Of course then a other planet partner might decide that trust and professionalism is not needet for the success of an real cash economy plattform.

BlackHawk · Apr 20, 2011

StrongMinded said:
There is a difference though. Death doesn´t own a LA on a planet he has invested in. If he gets a free LA on Arkadia then that will be a different story.

Deathifier has is an investor in game.

I think he should not play active. He should be able to keep his property, but he should not be able to invest anymore as a player. Simply because he knows things about what he will release on his planet. I would not expect him to have the account terminated. But some limitation to what he can do, I can expect. And if MA will not do it, I expect him to do it himself. Because behavior like DA had is not good for business. And he seems smarter than that.

Same stands for all people that make planets in EU. Eventually one must make a choice. Player or provider.

Xen · Apr 20, 2011

Leona said:
If Deathifier actually plays (as in looting professions) or not doesn't make a difference really. He is in the same shoes.

And any decent person would acknowledge the concerns of the player base that there is at least a minimal potential for inside knowledge and gaining advantage of it. And so would the involved planet partner, again, if it is a professional and trustworthy company.

So at least we would see some public statements how far that investment goes and how far the investors involvement into decisions goes.
And we would hear some words that makes us players be able to trust that the planet partner is willing / able to treat sensible balancing informations hidden from the investor.
Thats just some really simple things a professional investor and a thrustworthy planet partner would do. A bit transparency and stuff.

And it is exactly what Deathifier and the Arkadia guys managed to do.

Of course then a other planet partner might decide that trust and professionalism is not needet for the success of an real cash economy plattform.

I agree they are in somewhat the same shoes, but I disagree that it doesn't make a difference if they are logging in and making discoveries. One person was questioned, the other not so much, because of the difference in their activities.

mastermesh · Apr 20, 2011

BlackHawk said:
Deathifier has is an investor in game.

I think he should not play active. He should be able to keep his property, but he should not be able to invest anymore as a player. Simply because he knows things about what he will release on his planet. I would not expect him to have the account terminated. But some limitation to what he can do, I can expect. And if MA will not do it, I expect him to do it himself. Because behavior like DA had is not good for business. And he seems smarter than that.

Same stands for all people that make planets in EU. Eventually one must make a choice. Player or provider.

Why should he keep his property... ND had to give up his, even though he just recreated the Club ND on another planet, and still has ownership of the bank at PA as far as I can tell even though he publicly stated he had to get rid of it back in December, about a quarter of a year beyond the time of that statement, and over a year since the new planet ND owned went live...

StrongMinded · Apr 20, 2011

BlackHawk said:
Deathifier has is an investor in game.

I think he should not play active. He should be able to keep his property, but he should not be able to invest anymore as a player. Simply because he knows things about what he will release on his planet. I would not expect him to have the account terminated. But some limitation to what he can do, I can expect. And if MA will not do it, I expect him to do it himself. Because behavior like DA had is not good for business. And he seems smarter than that.

Same stands for all people that make planets in EU. Eventually one must make a choice. Player or provider.

Correct me if i´m wrong. Being an investor is the same as buying stocks in a company like Coca Cola... Having these stocks doesn´t mean they will give me the secret recipe to Coca Cola. Being a planet owner, developer, employee is a totally different story because you will get info on upcoming stuff or even take part in creating it.

~CHOPPER~ · Apr 20, 2011

CodeMonkey said:
ok, so to my understanding, DA is a LA owner/investor.

.

I believe you are correct. he may seem like a nice guy to some people.. giving away stuff, buying sweat ect. ect.

But his intentions are purely business related. To get more people using LA's he has invested in.

Lee · Apr 20, 2011

StrongMinded said:
There is a difference though. Death doesn´t own a LA on a planet he has invested in. If he gets a free LA on Arkadia then that will be a different story. Currently i can´t see any way for D to get inside knowledge since the planet isn´t released yet.

Actually...he owns the first major LA on the planet, 8 Coins, a mining area that is a prominent part of the planet storyline as well. I have no clue personally what sort of business arrangement any of these folks have with PPs or with Ma, other than what they themselves tell us, but at this particular point I can't see a great difference between the relationship Deathifier has with Arkadia and DA has with RT, except that DA hasn't as far as I know acknowledged being a major cash investor with the owners of RT, only a LA owner and third party 'partner' for specific purposes involved with helping the planet and the platform grow.

I personally like Deathifier and understand that he wants to help EU grow as well as hopefully make something back on his various investments, but I see that from DA etc as well, so have no intention of 'taking sides' or offering opinions of the right or wrong of any of it since the reality is none of us peons knows for fact what is in the PP agreement or what MA thinks on any of it. MA did not ask us how it should work, and in the end, it is they who decide what is 'kosher' and what is not, seems to me clearly they don't object to such partnerships or they wouldn't allow them would they :scratch2:

Looking forward very much to the launch of Arkadia, but not looking forward to the drama when Deathifier may get a discovery or loot something cool there. Those seriously concerned about this situation should write to MA, not much else to be done really.

Oh btw, thanks Narfi for trying to answer a few of the questions with DA, I can actually understand his reluctance to give out interviews to any player of the game right now, or to interact directly on this forum, so your attempt to help clear up some of the issues is appreciated.

mastermesh · Apr 20, 2011

Really hope folks at SDS, MA and NDS, and Arkadia address these issues soon... Both the Deathi/DA issues as well as the other issues... would really suck to be an intern for a company right after getting out of school only to find that you are now banned from ever participating in the virtual universe you helped create simply because the CEO of the company you worked for for a few months screwed up and forgot to read some fine print in a contract that he signed, but perhaps that's the way it is? Where does the third party/employee/investor/owner relationships start and end?!? Do the folks that quit working or get fired from NDS have the ability to use their avatar again the day that employment relationship stops? What if they come back later as a third party just to give advice?... What if they work for a true third party down the road or something?

If I sell a 3d model on Turbosquid and someone at some planet partner buys it, I sure the hell don't want to be banned, and honestly think in some situation like that would not be since there really is a true third party being used, but all these other cases... not so true it appears?... There's a heck of a lot of grey area, and nothing to address all those grey areas right now... but there's still, as mentioned in this the posts above, a lot of individuals who are in those grey areas right this second. Are they logging in? Is there any way MA is following that sort of thing? Are planet partners required to report the names of the avatars of their employees to MA as soon as they are employed? Can someone be fired just for not doing that? Lots of rules and enforcement of rules that are all in these grey areas... areas no one has been looking at for years, but that have now been there for years... so this all is an area that MA should address ASAP as it has a lot to do with security and stability of the entire platform itself.

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