4- affect entropia interface, environment components, balancing or participant's experience
= temper with software to get better faps, more money, or other advantages vs other players
in the following post i say "you" without speaking about anyone special, so it isn't a reply to Naomi in particular, i just quoted it because i liked that part and it goes along with my post
so understand the "you" as general, not as particular please
although I understand the "I don't want to click 50 000 times to produce filters/BSM/whatever", isnt an autoclicker exactly there for one reason
to click for you instead of you
now when the AC clicks for you instead of you, and your arguement is that you dont want RSI or something, thats alright
but then one question comes to mind
do you sit behind the PC for the 5 hours (or whatever time it needs) til your 50 000 clicks are done, maybe reading newspaper or something?
because if you don't, you gain an advantange vs other players, who spent their time behind the pc
that goes along with hunters, miners (where bots are harder to set up very likely, with aiming, fapping, running around to drop bombs every 100m, god knows what) and crafters alike
just that it is easier to program or crafting more boring isn't really an excuse, is it?
simple question, if it is that boring, why do you do it? or did it?
because it used to have an AC option so you can go to the cinema or something while the program does your job and the other idiots spend their time on clicking/hunting/mining themselves?
so i definitely think that it IS to gain an advantage of people who click on themselves, thats the whole point of it, because i can hardly imagine anyone watching the AC craft for you
i don't blame anyone for having used an AC btw, nor would I, it was a logical thing, as many did
so many actually tried to get an advantage of others (and more free time kinda) by using it that just the poor stupid idiots who didn't use one were the people left on the track
i understand however the "crafting is boring" and "50 000 clicks is nuts", totally correct
there should indeed be an option to have it click for yourself, or a change in crafting, but it should have some way to have ppl sit behind the PC to spend their time as others or to leave it
that is fairness, not more
maybe some kind of buttons popping up at the screen like "press Q" or so, so you gotta react to something and your attention is in the screen and let you do something
or to actually build the stuff, put the reasources in, click manufacture and you would get some kind of easy puzzle of the final item to place together
either way, also i tend to ignore bots, i generally don't like it
"yo, i got 4000 evade" "whoa, must have taken a while" "ya, rather long, always ran into the atrox for months" "must have been boring" "naaah, used a program which ran for me and watched tv, all the idiots who do it themselves are nuts"
crafting discussion wouldn't be much different and any botter discussion could be similar
this has, very likely, a price effect on the skills, as they are likely lower than possible as you can "AC them up"
if it has a product price effect using ACs is actually fairly easy to see, look at the sweat market once the server border bug appeared and lots of ppl sweated on AC
price went down drastically
and now several prices of crafted stuff are up afaik, like residue
so i am fairly use an affect is there
either way, although it may sound harsh
i don't think the "i don't want to click 50k times", "crafting is boring", "it keeps prices down"
->"give us the AC back"
is valid, if you dont want to click 50k times because its boring, noone is forcing you to craft, not even using an AC, just do something else (you had likely done something else with AC anyway, i can't imagine someone watching that, even more boring)
"keeping prices down" is actually a 2 edged sword, because it makes it harder for people (especially those who don't use or don't want to use an AC) to get into crafting
ofc the people who have the skills now after using bots/ACs are laughing
about them
it isn't necessarily a discussion about cheating, more about fairness generally
is it really right to be able to skill without being behind the PC?
thus driving prices down, thus getting skills on advantage of others who do it without the AC/bot method