I admit to have used you all...

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I admit to have used you all...

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In my daily job we develop internet software and sites for users to use for interaction in between each other.

We have been talking about making some sort of analysis about how the “steady users” on a site will react incase their sole existence is questioned.

What will be the reaction? Will they be defending themselves or they will just question it as just another insane user that has a bad day.

Will they react like this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gLlBv_SrZw[/youtube]
Or just be cool about it?

We have seen this happen before on dating sites, forums and other online “spaces” where anyone can talk to anyone – anyone can backstab and talk behind other peoples backs. Anyone can send threats / negative comments to others / onsite message system.

I offered to do this, as I was an somehow accepted face on an big forum with a few thousand users – had around 2.000 posts in this forum and a reputation that wouldn’t suffer too much after acting like some disturbed existence.

Or at least that show I hope it will be seen, hehe.

Of course there is no question that people will be asking themselves if I just indeed had a bad day and lost my mind or went insane or whatever this day… I can’t help that, but at least I do know that the ones that respected me – still respect me. Or else their respect wasn’t worth anything to start with… I have talked to a few of my ingame friends about this, all used to be forum users but left after a while and now only read this forum. Afraid to be bashed some of them told me.

So let me excuse to 711, forum moderators and everyone that felt that I insulted them, pissed on them and abused them, that wasn’t the purpose.

The purpose was solely to find out IF the regular users ( top posters ) would be willing to engage into a fight about their rights to be spending countless hours of their day at a forum, or just… ignore the perpetrator.

I overdid it actually – another thing to add to the test… I became so entangled into the “throw mud” that I actually continued insulting… Sorry DanielleYourMom…

Everyone that knows me – knows that I do select my battles very carefully… Though – after being negative repped twice (I’m not used to getting any negative reputations at all) in a day by Danielle I found myself calling her names on this forum, which was totally uncalled for – especially since I was doing this test.

How should the test be done?
First write a long novel with a key insult against the forum stalkers. It needs to be long and kind of hard to read – plus it should be written in a not too good English language. An excuse should be made about the bad English, to see if that in some way will trigger even more posts (insults / forgiveness?).

It is important – that there are no spelling errors however; spelling errors might indicate that something else is written – when it however means something else.

It is also important that the thread should mean something and give a clear message if all of it is read to the end.

Then all entries should be analyzed and sorted through, like how relevant the follow up messages are to the original post – or follow up messages to the the subpost, which has to be made by the same person that originally made the start post. (Thread starter).


The analysis will be completed sometimes in this week or maybe start next week - and we will be doing some tests on facebook (but NOT my profile), MSN, Dating and such places... combining results. But I'm positive that noone in here want their sole existence questioned :laugh: Still - there is no question that a lot of the messages in the thread - was posted without reading all posts prior to this, so any thread starter better gather all messages and add it to his start thread as this seems to be the only one read - and only read if its not too long and cryptic.

I'll only answer Private messages and not in this thread - I won't start public mud throwing again :ahh: thats just not my style ;)

Yours truly,
Tom thebuzz Christensen
 
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Why would you get so upset over a 'work thing' and post shit like this :


Yes - I -repped you .. but I'm pretty sure mine had to do with the content of your post and not a personal and completely uncalled for attack on your person.
Yes, you editted your publicly made statement later ... but is that the point? :scratch2:

It's ok - I'm used to people being mean to me on EF because I talk a lot and people perceive me as 'popular' - but don't think for one second I think of you the same.

Just because I think you're a douchebag now, doesn't mean I don't wish you well in whatever you choose to do with your life and EU. :wise:
 

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You were harsh on Danielle Buzz, but thats for you two to sort out between yourselves. It would be interesting to see results (if any conclusive) you find through this.
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I like always say, Beer is overrated and now i believe EF reputation is just like Beer. :)
 

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I really... have no clue whats going on... so i'm just going to say.
do this to 4chan.
 

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I really... have no clue whats going on... so i'm just going to say.
do this to 4chan.
I dont think hes company is in need of hentai and pre-teen porn... Stay away from 4chan!
 

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I dont think hes company is in need of hentai and pre-teen porn... Stay away from 4chan!
don't touch thoes sections. hit the anime and video game boards, and even B/ you work the right magic and you could probably get every all 3 boards to explode at once and get several thousand posts in a couple hours.
 

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don't touch thoes sections. hit the anime and video game boards, and even B/ you work the right magic and you could probably get every all 3 boards to explode at once and get several thousand posts in a couple hours.
/b/ is the most scary one of all of them. :laugh: Its there u find all this!

But, what would u want to get those boards upset about? it would be really hard to get a respons to analyze in a good way

I was told one thing when i started using the internet; Stay away from /b/ :p
 

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Your post quoted by Danielle deserved far more neg reps from community. That was really rudea and you should be knocked down to at least negative overall reputation after this...
 

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seems many of the replies dont understand that this was a hidden forum analysis. I did though now when you explained it and good that you explained aswell. :)

There are both negative and positive factors to consider when doing a survey like this. I'll want to see those results soon :D
 

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There are both negative and positive factors to consider when doing a survey like this. I'll want to see those results soon :D
Signed!

Really looking forwards to hear the results.
 

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Hi,

What? Where? Why?
Guess I missed somethin again ...

Have fun!
 

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I quit reading that thread long before you got to that final insult against Danielle :eek:

By that time though I had already decided that your true self seemed to be coming out and you were attacking others to try and feel better about yourself somehow. I started ignoring that thread and moved on to more important stuff.

Hope your experiment went well, my opinion of your character did change as I read that thread and your responses and this post has done nothing to change my new opinion.
 

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Nice to see everybody using a capital B to spell Beer,
giving it the importance it deserves:beerchug:


Stinky:yay:
 

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My only question would be how was anyone's sole existance being questioned?
 

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Personally I have my doubts about this explanation for being legit and not just a last resort to save some reputation and respect after realizing what making that thread did to you. It seems to me you're a very proud person so I wouldnt be too suprised.

If this is in fact the truth, then I still dislike that you were deliberatly trying to upset members of this forum for your own little 'experiment' and entertainment. You might have concealed it well in the thread (by genuinly appearing to actually have those beliefs), but classically such actions would either classify you as a troll or a flamebait.
 

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Buzz, I would suggest that if your going to behave like this at least man up and take responsibility for your lame behaviour. This "research" excuse is lame and even worse than if you had just had a bad day. Everyone has bad days and that is understandable, but subjecting others without there knowledge to your little science experiment just so you can intentionally pull there chains should result in a ban IMHO. Yeah, Im prolly one of those whose opinion you don't give a shit about, but based on your postings, it looks like that is pretty much everybody so im at least in good company. As for calling Mom a whore.... You've got balls on a private forum but I can't help but wonder that those would evaporate were you talking to her face to face.
Man up and take some responsibility.

Blackjack :cowboy:
 

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got linkage?

what the heck was this over anyway?
 

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Sorry Tom, but ... I'm not buying into this, and feel it's quite a poor end run to save face IMHO. There was no real structured test here, and if there was an attempt to employ such ... then I certainly wouldn't trust any sort of analysis produced whatsoever. Also, why would a company who develops internet software and sites for users need to conduct a social experiment?

That one, I definitely don't understand ... because it deals in behavioral dynamics, rather than any type of marketing dynamics that might play into developing software and a site for users, or to draw user traffic. Tell me exactly how questioning someone's sole existence on the forum plays into your company's product, or service. :scratch2:

Just as an FYI ... conducting research, which is basically what you were doing with your implied test, requires some very specific steps and considerations in order to produce any type of valid empirical evidence that you state will be in some sort of analysis.

Therefore ... I have some questions for you with regard to this experimental study, which is exactly what it all boils down to, if in fact that's what you were doing:

* Define what your (or your company's) hypothesis was for this test.

* Define the independent variables.

* Define the dependent variable.

* What true research method did you use to collect the relevant data that you and your company needed in order to analyze and summarize it for your forthcoming analysis?

* In what format will your analysis be, and ... what exactly is your company going to use this information for?

* Did you employ a meta-analysis statistical technique to identify the overall trends relating to the type of social behavior you supposedly tested us for? I ask this, because you mentioned this behavior occurring at "dating sites, forums, and other online spaces."

* Will the "behavioral" findings be reported in a psychological or behavioral journal? I ask because I don't see the real purpose for your company needing to conduct the type of social experiment that you said you did at this forum. What's the purpose, and where will the results be published?​

Some things are rather clear to me ... specifically, the thread you created ... "Can I put this in a post... Loud people vs silent people...? ... in no way represents any type of valid experimental test whatsoever. There is both observer and experimenter bias all over the place, not to mention poorly designed demographics, and an incredibly skewed purpose as shown below ...

The purpose was solely to find out IF the regular users ( top posters ) would be willing to engage into a fight about their rights to be spending countless hours of their day at a forum, or just… ignore the perpetrator.

Quite frankly ... I find this a sad state of affairs Tom, because if in fact your company was in search of true and real data with regard to what you have put in your opening post, then it's incredibly lacking in any professional standard that relates to research. Also, your title of the thread isn't even relative to what you say your purpose of the test was.

At this point ... I can only shake my head, because nothing in your other thread is structured enough to indicate any type of valid testing or experiment whatsoever. Also, because of some of the stuff you wrote in your opening post in this thread. Specifically, the method with which you said the test should be done ...

How should the test be done?
First write a long novel with a key insult against the forum stalkers. It needs to be long and kind of hard to read – plus it should be written in a not too good English language. An excuse should be made about the bad English, to see if that in some way will trigger even more posts (insults / forgiveness?).

It is important – that there are no spelling errors however; spelling errors might indicate that something else is written – when it however means something else.

It is also important that the thread should mean something and give a clear message if all of it is read to the end.

Then all entries should be analyzed and sorted through, like how relevant the follow up messages are to the original post – or follow up messages to the the subpost, which has to be made by the same person that originally made the start post. (Thread starter).

First of all ... what is the criteria for defining an EF forum stalker ... your opinion? Second, why would your intended (long novel) insult against them need to be hard to read and no spelling errors, and ... why not so good English, and then make an excuse about it? I don't get the purpose of that WHATsoever. How does that dynamic fit into your testing? ... especially when the majority of the posters in your other thread absolutely understood what you were writing and where you were coming from.

As far as I'm concerned ... you got your nose bent out of shape when your impatience was attacked in David's "And the winner is ..." thread regarding the EU video contest. It started with your question to David here ... then it escalated to the point of you shouting, that is shown in this post that was quoted by someone else, and missed when Skam edited your original shouting post, because shouting is against forum rules (just an example Skam ;)). The interesting thing is ... there's only an 11 minute difference between your last post in David's thread, and when you posted your so-called test thread.

My suggestion is ... go back and review your alleged "test thread" and tell me if you really feel that how you set up your original post is remotely related to any type of valid test. You went back into your original post several times and made edits. You also singled out one person who seemingly understood you, when according to you, the disagreeing opinions of others was a result of them not understanding your post.

It's a mess Tom ... and nothing more! And, I find it incredibly arrogant and rude that you say that anyone wanting to interact with you about this should PM you. :(




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Just chiming in to say that its something that I notice ever more often also done at "real scientific research institutions".
Somehow the people in social sciences seem to believe they can research a lot of things by questionnaires.
I always wonder when seeing this where physic science would be nowadays had the scientists tried to "ask" the test matter "how it felt".
Just imagine a teeter-totter saying "well it was like totally whoosh and then bumpf, but it hurt only a bit" - yeah now make the formula of mass dependent acceleration from that.

What frightens me most is that crack-head scientists like this create expertises used in the law creation processes of governments.
 

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There is no way in hell I'd say the things you said to "Danielle" to ANYONE..... AND.... if my place of employment asked me to do so...... whether it be for an experiment or not, I'd tell them to get F#@!#D and quit.

I know Danielle can be quite outspoken sometimes.... and she's not afraid to tell it like she see's it.... however.... regardless of your reasons why... you should be ashamed of yourself for saying the things you said to her.
 

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So....................:scratch:

You ran a test and attacked people to see what their reaction would be? :confused:

OK hmmmm

Is it not common sense that if you attack someone in probably any situation most people will defend themselves :ninja: and probably fight back :nutkick:

I also think in a forum if you are acting freaking clueless about something people will try to clue you in or call you clueless. It just depends on the person IMO.

There are a variety of personalities in any situation that can react many different ways.

Sorry but this quote shows just how clueless you are:

We have been talking about making some sort of analysis about how the “steady users” on a site will react incase their sole existence is questioned.
Sole existence? Are you really that diluted or is EF and EU your "Sole existence" so it must be the same for anyone in you mind that find entertainment posting on a forum and playing a MMO :rolleyes:.

Its funny but after reading some of your current posts and some in the past and had pretty much written off posting in them because you just never seemed to get what people had to say. Now with all this talk of "analysis" or if its just a big cop out to save face, one thing is for sure your credibility from my standpoint is ziltch, nada, zero, nothing. So this will be my last post in a "Tom the Buzz" thread because who knows whats real and whats some contrived experiment or some stupid cop out.

Nuff said!
 

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Thread starter has requested that his EF account be deleted.

In light of the unnecessary disruption of the forum and harrassment of some members, I find that a good solution.

EntropiaForum is not a place to conduct flimsy "experiments" on the member base, goading people into arguments to measure reactions.

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