Ziplex spam

idk i still a joke , consider this exploit its easy bump pedcard from over 50k profit , and infinite crash in all ores/emt
Not only Ziplex and UL amps

And i agree with atomic , end with this wave loot , or its not take long to people do again
 
We recently identified a glitch affecting the Mining Strongboxes in our game. Due to this issue, players frequently experienced an error message stating 'Could not Execute' when attempting to open these strongboxes. Occasionally these strongboxes could still be opened, which resulted in them only yielding rare loot. We sincerely apologize for this, as it was an oversight on our part, as these boxes were not meant to be accessible to open in this state in the first place.

Unfortunately, this resulted in an unfair advantage for specific avatars, allowing them to loot very rare items consistently. During the incident, a red-text message was displayed on the screen, stating "Could not Execute," which should have indicated that the boxes were not functioning as intended. As this was happening, we did receive support cases from the community and many stopped opening the boxes.

Some players clicked through hundreds or even thousands of these messages to exploit the glitch. Typically, players had to brute force through 10-20 "Could not Execute" messages to successfully open one box, indicating persistent efforts to exploit the glitch rather than accidental encounters. During our review, it also became clear that some players were aware of the glitch and wanted to exploit it, as evidenced by chat logs that referred to the boxes as "glitched" or "bugged" by "spam opening" and debating whether they would get in trouble or not.

As part of our response, we temporarily locked several accounts and made sure to retract as many items as possible obtained from the mining boxes during this period. Most of the players who only opened a few amounts of boxes they already owned have been unlocked and compensated with new mining boxes and/or strongbox keys depending on their individual situation.

Additionally, those who have more extensively exploited this glitch despite ongoing warnings from the red "Could not Execute" messages, are still temporarily locked and will receive less to no compensation for claimed items, depending on their individual cases.

We assure all players that we resolved the issue and the mining boxes are safe to open. Our team has conducted tests to ensure that everything is working as intended, and you can continue to enjoy the game with confidence that the rewards distribution aligns with our original design.

Here is a reminder from the ENTROPIA UNIVERSE ACCOUNT TERMS OF USE (ToU) to follow our Rules of Conduct:

6. MindArk’s rules of conduct
j. You should immediately report errors and bugs in the Entropia Universe to MindArk whenever You discover them. You may not “cheat” or otherwise neglect to report errors or bugs, use bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or other 'exploits' for Your own benefit or for the benefit of others.


Thank you for your understanding, communication, feedback and continued support ❤️ 🙏
This is the way!

You acted and communicated! ❤️❤️❤️

+Respect

#Make Entropia Great Again
 
So players saw the "Could not Execute" message and the fact that the boxes were only dropping rares, but didn't know if it's a bug or not :unsure:
Yea just like when redulite were dropping people were getting could not execute + rubber banding in that area 🤣
 
Some players clicked through hundreds or even thousands of these messages to exploit the glitch. Typically, players had to brute force through 10-20 "Could not Execute" messages to successfully open one box, indicating persistent efforts to exploit the glitch rather than accidental encounters.

I think this says it all. Thanks for the feedback, MA.
 
During our review, it also became clear that some players were aware of the glitch and wanted to exploit it, as evidenced by chat logs that referred to the boxes as "glitched" or "bugged" by "spam opening" and debating whether they would get in trouble or not.
Very, very interesting investigation method
 
@My|MindArk All this mess makes a bit of more sense now. Thank you for the clarification.
 
ENTROPIA UNIVERSE ACCOUNT TERMS OF USE (ToU) to follow our Rules of Conduct:

6. MindArk’s rules of conduct
j. You should immediately report errors and bugs in the Entropia Universe to MindArk whenever You discover them. You may not “cheat” or otherwise neglect to report errors or bugs, use bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or other 'exploits' for Your own benefit or for the benefit of others.
Wooooot

All real humans = Now do the 1 with the 3rd party automated software...

MA = "noise crickets make"
 
So, now that we have things cleared, wanna post my support case.
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Well done. The way I read it, the most egregious got their items and resources from boxes removed. No return of boxes AND no return of keys. Is this correct? If so than this is the right decision. A direct hit to the exploiting players wallets.
Well done <3
 
First of all, thank you for a much more detailed report on what happened.
I do have some issues, however.
On some occasions we may not be able to access the AH, which usually ends with a 'could not execute', or when crafting something may happen to also get that message coming up. Are you seriously saying to all of us we have to submit a ticket that we got such a message? What if we weren't paying attention to the screen and all we know a little bit later is that the process stopped?

Also, did not executes also seem to be a result of server lags or so, with some people getting through. It's like trying to reserve tickets or so. You HAVE to be persistent to fight against other callers, until you either succeed or the tickets are all sold.
Now if ALL successes were with rares, then that'd look suspicious pretty quickly, yes, but are you saying that really all boxes that got opened under these conditions gave irregularly bonused loots? I am pretty sure I'd have stopped AND reported, but if the EULA itself makes the game 'unplayable' due to what is stated in it, then something is wrong!

Thanks for understanding that we are likely to have such further questions, but I believe it is right and good of you (MA) to have made your statement. Thank you!

Edit: Oh, and I seriously do not consider that I have discovered something unless it says I have. Almost all occurences of non execution just seems to me to be 'getting' the message, just as we can travel to thousands of places, but have discovered none of them. Shit happens; it doesn't mean I have discovered shit (that probably means different things in US and GB English, but I have discovered neither meaning...)
 
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I happy with the communication for once!
 
So, now that we have things cleared, wanna post my support case.
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O thats good to see at least.. I got message saying I'm locked until the end even with the items taken back

i sold 0 and offered to sell 0 and still even had finders from last time I opened my mining boxes that I never sold or used yet and got 0 of my 1500p worth of boxes back that took me forever to collect mining and cycled a fortune to get (hoping thats an error i sent support case)

while others who opened far more and bought them for this very purpose (didn't collect mining) and who never opened mining boxes before (which I do) are out the next day or 2 with their boxes back...

I know why this is and I think we all do by now its because I put a forum thread puting on blast that we need them to get rid of the 1 mining bot guy with 1000 accounts destroying our economy. I never posted on forum before, never did anything shady, barely know how to use a computer past this game so I definitely didn't do any hacking to make the boxes do this. There is literally no other explanation than they HATE when people bring up bots on here... also everytime I post anything theres a MA employee checking what I write like I'm red flagged or something

Hope I'm wrong and I fully agree on taking the items back at least that's a smart move.

If I get the boxes back at least for the items they took like everyone else I will stand corrected and let u guys know but I seriously think they get mad at pointing out bots as rediculous as it sounds 🤔
 
Thumbs up to those who remained neutral and let the items sit in storage and wait the situation out.

The ones who abused the bug and even chatted about doing it inside the game. Such behavior is obvious and the stupidity to think that it would succeed surprises me.

While others might disagree, I hope no one looses their account forever because of their stupidity in this. This is mainly because avatars in EU specifically is years of work and in many cases a lot of money, that could cause someone a lot of stress to loose it all.

punishment is fully understandable, a temporary ban of a year or more would be fitting, should give them some time to think through it, and let them know nothing goes unpunished. Also if their history indicates a pattern of bad behavior, I would consider the permanent as well.

I haven't participated in any of these unboxings and I don't know anyone caught in it. Just following from the crowd here.
 
We recently identified a glitch affecting the Mining Strongboxes in our game. Due to this issue, players frequently experienced an error message stating 'Could not Execute' when attempting to open these strongboxes. Occasionally these strongboxes could still be opened, which resulted in them only yielding rare loot. We sincerely apologize for this, as it was an oversight on our part, as these boxes were not meant to be accessible to open in this state in the first place.

Unfortunately, this resulted in an unfair advantage for specific avatars, allowing them to loot very rare items consistently. During the incident, a red-text message was displayed on the screen, stating "Could not Execute," which should have indicated that the boxes were not functioning as intended. As this was happening, we did receive support cases from the community and many stopped opening the boxes.

Some players clicked through hundreds or even thousands of these messages to exploit the glitch. Typically, players had to brute force through 10-20 "Could not Execute" messages to successfully open one box, indicating persistent efforts to exploit the glitch rather than accidental encounters. During our review, it also became clear that some players were aware of the glitch and wanted to exploit it, as evidenced by chat logs that referred to the boxes as "glitched" or "bugged" by "spam opening" and debating whether they would get in trouble or not.

As part of our response, we temporarily locked several accounts and made sure to retract as many items as possible obtained from the mining boxes during this period. Most of the players who only opened a few amounts of boxes they already owned have been unlocked and compensated with new mining boxes and/or strongbox keys depending on their individual situation.

Additionally, those who have more extensively exploited this glitch despite ongoing warnings from the red "Could not Execute" messages, are still temporarily locked and will receive less to no compensation for claimed items, depending on their individual cases.

We assure all players that we resolved the issue and the mining boxes are safe to open. Our team has conducted tests to ensure that everything is working as intended, and you can continue to enjoy the game with confidence that the rewards distribution aligns with our original design.

Here is a reminder from the ENTROPIA UNIVERSE ACCOUNT TERMS OF USE (ToU) to follow our Rules of Conduct:

6. MindArk’s rules of conduct
j. You should immediately report errors and bugs in the Entropia Universe to MindArk whenever You discover them. You may not “cheat” or otherwise neglect to report errors or bugs, use bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or other 'exploits' for Your own benefit or for the benefit of others.


Thank you for your understanding, communication, feedback and continued support ❤️ 🙏

Thanks for the detailed explanation, it's very much appreciated. To my mind this changes everything and is certainly a move in the right direction.

Hope you can address some of the other issues in the game as well e.g. botting. This would go a long way towards restoring confidence in the game.
 
We recently identified a glitch affecting the Mining Strongboxes in our game. Due to this issue, players frequently experienced an error message stating 'Could not Execute' when attempting to open these strongboxes. Occasionally these strongboxes could still be opened, which resulted in them only yielding rare loot. We sincerely apologize for this, as it was an oversight on our part, as these boxes were not meant to be accessible to open in this state in the first place.

Unfortunately, this resulted in an unfair advantage for specific avatars, allowing them to loot very rare items consistently. During the incident, a red-text message was displayed on the screen, stating "Could not Execute," which should have indicated that the boxes were not functioning as intended. As this was happening, we did receive support cases from the community and many stopped opening the boxes.

Some players clicked through hundreds or even thousands of these messages to exploit the glitch. Typically, players had to brute force through 10-20 "Could not Execute" messages to successfully open one box, indicating persistent efforts to exploit the glitch rather than accidental encounters. During our review, it also became clear that some players were aware of the glitch and wanted to exploit it, as evidenced by chat logs that referred to the boxes as "glitched" or "bugged" by "spam opening" and debating whether they would get in trouble or not.

As part of our response, we temporarily locked several accounts and made sure to retract as many items as possible obtained from the mining boxes during this period. Most of the players who only opened a few amounts of boxes they already owned have been unlocked and compensated with new mining boxes and/or strongbox keys depending on their individual situation.

Additionally, those who have more extensively exploited this glitch despite ongoing warnings from the red "Could not Execute" messages, are still temporarily locked and will receive less to no compensation for claimed items, depending on their individual cases.

We assure all players that we resolved the issue and the mining boxes are safe to open. Our team has conducted tests to ensure that everything is working as intended, and you can continue to enjoy the game with confidence that the rewards distribution aligns with our original design.

Here is a reminder from the ENTROPIA UNIVERSE ACCOUNT TERMS OF USE (ToU) to follow our Rules of Conduct:

6. MindArk’s rules of conduct
j. You should immediately report errors and bugs in the Entropia Universe to MindArk whenever You discover them. You may not “cheat” or otherwise neglect to report errors or bugs, use bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or other 'exploits' for Your own benefit or for the benefit of others.


Thank you for your understanding, communication, feedback and continued support ❤️ 🙏

Really nice to see an explanation like this, i just hope it will be the new norm for similar cases in the future.
 
Thanks for the detailed explanation, it's very much appreciated. To my mind this changes everything and is certainly a move in the right direction.

Hope you can address some of the other issues in the game as well e.g. botting. This would go a long way towards restoring confidence in the game.
Yesss I hope we can get an answer on this instead of the silent treatment.. even a nod, or an eye blink, or a finger twitch... like MA blink twice if you will remove bots when presented with a mountain of evidence (video, pictures, chat, current location to see for themselves) something.. anything 🤣 ... hell at this point I'd take just a logoff where they can log back in when they get home from work
 
buy zimplex 105%
 
While others might disagree, I hope no one looses their account forever because of their stupidity in this. This is mainly because avatars in EU specifically is years of work and in many cases a lot of money, that could cause someone a lot of stress to loose it all.
I do disagree because it's some of the same folks that keep exploiting. (not necessarily with this one, but I haven't really been watching to see who's had a break and who hasn't).
 
During the incident, a red-text message was displayed on the screen, stating "Could not Execute," which should have indicated that the boxes were not functioning as intended.

Similar to other posts, I am going to continue to take a generalized approached to my question/statement.

Does this mean that when we see "Could not execute" that we should just simply stop what ever we are doing and submit a support ticket? Because I've personally had this error come up so much in this buggy game doing everything from switching weapons, tools, clicking on auction house or trying to drop probs while mining.
 
I always get that error at the auction house when trying to sell something. You make a very good point.
 
Similar to other posts, I am going to continue to take a generalized approached to my question/statement.

Does this mean that when we see "Could not execute" that we should just simply stop what ever we are doing and submit a support ticket? Because I've personally had this error come up so much in this buggy game doing everything from switching weapons, tools, clicking on auction house or trying to drop probs while mining.

I think that things are more nuanced than every "cannot execute" is an exploit.

For example you go to a casino and the slot your on play button does not work each time (cannot execute), however returns are in normal proportion just slower due to annoying button connect. Casino leave you be and all goes normal.

However if after spamming the play button each spin is a jackpot or feature, the casino will close that down real fast.
 
Similar to other posts, I am going to continue to take a generalized approached to my question/statement.

Does this mean that when we see "Could not execute" that we should just simply stop what ever we are doing and submit a support ticket? Because I've personally had this error come up so much in this buggy game doing everything from switching weapons, tools, clicking on auction house or trying to drop probs while mining.
Repairing (the bug is still there on Arkadia where your weapon shows more decay than actual), converting shrapnel, etc.
 
I think that things are more nuanced than every "cannot execute" is an exploit.

For example you go to a casino and the slot your on play button does not work each time (cannot execute), however returns are in normal proportion just slower due to annoying button connect. Casino leave you be and all goes normal.

However if after spamming the play button each spin is a jackpot or feature, the casino will close that down real fast.


I understand the point you're making with your example. The challenge with EU is that players frequently encounter the "cannot execute" message for a variety of reasons, as others have mentioned in response to my previous post.

As players, how are we supposed to distinguish between the different instances of "cannot execute"? While the Ziplex situation is an extreme case, the reality is that when this error appears during other parts of the game, most players attribute it to lag or another temporary issue and simply try again, often being successful the next go around. From what I understand, and based on Mys’ post, this is exactly what happened in this case (regarding the Ziplex).

I’d like to provide another example of something that we have seen in the past here in EU.

There was a situation where a player completed an instance that drops Lotus armor. Upon opening the final chest, they looted nearly two full sets of Lotus armor. While I don't recall the exact numbers (too lazy to dig into EULife to get that number), what the community understands is that the drop rate for the Lotus armor was incorrect, and when MA made an adjustment, the system preformed a catch-up, causing the chest to drop multiple parts all at once.

Now, looking at the Ziplex issue, players saw the "cannot execute" message but were still able to open boxes (insert all of my comments above about "cannot execute" here), and they noticed an increased number of Ziplex finders. To my knowledge, these boxes typically only drop one finder at a time. So, using the Lotus example, how are we as players supposed to recognize that this is a bug and not MA "correcting" the drop rate, which caused a temporary increase until it stabilized? (Keeping in mind that players would need to open multiple boxes because one box cant drop all the finders like how the chest could drop the armor parts.)

The reality is, EU is a buggy game throwing errors like this all of the time...coupling that with a wave based system where MA is tweaking things all the time... this makes it very difficult for us to identify one from the other.

Again, just to clarify, and toss my disclaimer in there - my intent here is to address these topics in general, not to focus specifically on the Ziplex issue.
 
That Could not Execute error can come from server lag or even if you try to reapply a pill while shooting.
I propose that you guys improve that msg to be more descriptive based on why the error occurred.

This would help people verify their own chat logs to see what is the most common errors and report them (helping you with bug fixing) and also to prevent further exploitation accidentally.

Thanks for the detailed information about what actually happened. It's clear based on what they had to do to open the boxes and the fact that it only gave out rare items, that it was at very least a bug exploit. I hope that you guys checked if anyone looted any UL mining amps from it. It's weird how the ziplex finders can get rare item hof but the UL mining finders don't, don't you think?

Again though, if there were more detailed description of errors in the game you'd also be able to use it to defend your case both for MA and for the player (assuming the player didn't intentionally try to exploit).
 
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That Could not Execute error can come from server lag or even if you try to reapply a pill while shooting.
I propose that you guys improve that msg to be more descriptive based on why the error occurred.

This would help people verify their own chat logs to see what is the most common errors and report them (helping you with bug fixing) and also to prevent further exploitation accidentally.

Thanks for the detailed information about what actually happened. It's clear based on what they had to do to open the boxes and the fact that it only gave out rare items, that it was at very least a bug exploit. I hope that you guys checked if anyone looted any UL mining amps from it. It's weird how the ziplex finders can get rare item hof but the UL mining finders don't, don't you think?

Again though, if there were more detailed description of errors in the game you'd also be able to use it to defend your case both for MA and for the player (assuming the player didn't intentionally try to exploit).
It would be just enough to have bug-free game at least at most crucial systems, but this game was coded by bunch of monkeys ages ago. New monkeys dont know what to do and how to fix things. they have to break it several times before finding out.

Everyone just should ask themselves how many systems doesnt work as intended and you just cannot stop using it, because it would mean stop playing. I am definately not judging decisions here, it is nice to see some action but im more curious if we see rapid action further with fix of crucial parts of game, both code wise and HR wise (where they been for 20 hours?). Only future can show that and i am big fan here.

What is pissing me off is that these errors and exploits etc are being solved urgently once published or something goes terribly wrong, but if you send them support case they wont even care to respond. For what they are raking last year i would expect top service in this regard.
 
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