Famous Entropians Part II

[Coelacanth]

Hmm...25% of the names on that list I don't even know, and never encountered them in-game. I also don't know how prominence on a forum, or even moderating it, results in in-game fame. Famous avatars should be ones that most players in-game have heard about or met, not just the ones who login to this website. Fame also shouldn't be restricted only to active players. The most famous people in history are all passed on, no? Fame to me is a legacy you leave behind, more so than current attempts to seem popular. Just IMHO anyway.

 

[Kitty]

Hmm...25% of the names on that list I don't even know, and never encountered them in-game. I also don't know how prominence on a forum, or even moderating it, results in in-game fame. Famous avatars should be ones that most players in-game have heard about or met, not just the ones who login to this website. Fame also shouldn't be restricted only to active players. The most famous people in history are all passed on, no? Fame to me is a legacy you leave behind, more so than current attempts to seem popular. Just IMHO anyway.

Agree. (Must spread rep, blah blah)

 

[KiriMistPrinces]

Hmm...25% of the names on that list I don't even know, and never encountered them in-game. I also don't know how prominence on a forum, or even moderating it, results in in-game fame. Famous avatars should be ones that most players in-game have heard about or met, not just the ones who login to this website. Fame also shouldn't be restricted only to active players. The most famous people in history are all passed on, no? Fame to me is a legacy you leave behind, more so than current attempts to seem popular. Just IMHO anyway.

Agreed.

In my opinion, a large portion of the names on here currently are just based on popularity.

 

[Sissi]

I would put Bluefire Sunderland on the list with the highest agility in game which if I remember correctly was around 173-174. Saw him last a couple years ago (be4 missions) and don't think any1 has ubered that even with missions and probably never will.

 

[Summer]

Don't like Traders being in the same category with Scams. If I just glance over the list I would probably think all the people there are scammers. You need to read every line to see which one is which. I would separate those two categories.

And Leeloo Faith is highest skilled colorer. Sarah Charlton hasn't played for a long long time (who is Sarah Connor?)

Would add Buzz Lightyear under Land owners as well.

 

[M Rufen Power]

If you want Legacy, you should put Patrick Stormer Deluxe then. He is the best hunter the game ever had imo. The dude was a walking ATH magnet. The only player ever to get 8 ATH's let alone just 1 but 8!! His avatar lives on but it's not him playing anymore sadly, the original stormer has moved on to better things. But still I have fond memories of him playing the game. Nice and friendly too.

 

[mastermesh]

Agreed.

In my opinion, a large portion of the names on here currently are just based on popularity.

Yep, which is why lists are pretty silly in some many ways... But on the other hand, a list of ATH folks is really a fairly random thing based on a computer algorithm that determines who gets what in the lootpool... Also, lists cause problems on a lot of other levels too... alt avatars using names on the list or names spelled extremely similar to em, lists cause those not on the list to want on it or vice versa. It's all biased and popularity contest type stuff. However, it is an interesting bit of history and fun reading, so lists can be good too. Carry on. Added link to this thread in my sig as 2 next to the IN(famous) link to the first thread. Probably just a matter of time til mods merge the two.

Fame and Fortune and Popularity and ATH don't alway correspond I suspect, lol.

 

[Xpl0jd]

His avatar lives on but it's not him playing anymore sadly, the original stormer has moved on to better things.

This is not true anymore, orginal Stormer has control over this avatar! (but inactive)

 

[Stefan 008 Bond]

From Webster...

Definition of FAMOUS:

a : widely known
b : honored for achievement

Popularity is indeed an indicator of fame...

008

 

[M Rufen Power]

This is not true anymore, orginal Stormer has control over this avatar! (but inactive)

thanks Xpl0jd! Tell him that he is missed!

 

[Pig]

If you want Legacy, you should put Patrick Stormer Deluxe then. He is the best hunter the game ever had imo. The dude was a walking ATH magnet. The only player ever to get 8 ATH's let alone just 1 but 8!! His avatar lives on but it's not him playing anymore sadly, the original stormer has moved on to better things. But still I have fond memories of him playing the game. Nice and friendly too.

I second this. Patrick Stormer deluxe gets my vote.

 

[Kitten]

NEATO I made the list

 

[loren]

I think traders should be listed under another section!

 

[Coelacanth]

From Webster...

Definition of FAMOUS:

a : widely known
b : honored for achievement

Popularity is indeed an indicator of fame...

008

I'm sorry, but popularity on this forum is not necessarily an indicator of in-game fame. Furthermore, I keep seeing comments like "Avatar XXX is highest skilled in such-and-such"; that's also not an indicator of fame.

What *is* fame, anyway? A good number of famous people have heard of me, bought & sold through me, hated me for whining on this forum & in-game or when I kicked their famous cK asses in the ring, loved me when I did something nice for them like free gifts or treasure hunts or just being someone always willing to have an in-game chat with...and yet I'm not famous.

Please don't take this as a self-nomination because I don't care one way or the other about fame. I just disagree with people's criteria for what equates with fame.

One thing's for certain: If you chance to meet me in-game, as long as I'm not wearing armor, you'll know it's me.

 

[il]

well i know coe ..she was the one to ask about weapons

after the gold time its been the high end trade segments ruled by the ones like
Star(actually the only avatar i know that had his ingame name change ..use to be Pornstar or something9 and Tzepu(switched to mainly hunting now)

 

[Joat]

what about:

hunters/skills like
starman i think in desert rangers back then
anda atreides
skalman
all ck(Angel rei Vaporz Leafren..)
im sure ill remeber more

i forgot the name of the most skilled MF user back then also high skilled on SB

skills
bluefire i think the best skilled medic back then
buzz was/is the most skilled tool crafter
toad hold a long time the highest crafting hof of 4k though ^_^
Seamaster did a magzine in gold i think - miner
Silver de Avlo gave courses in mining

pk
rony most feared
Faustian & Zippo coolest
ck ofc

tailoring
ETOPIA long time most skilled tailor
Sarah most skilled colorer

social
Aziphireal CEO Sterling&Moss helped to release the first and only issue of the PE magazine
Mindbuster creator of EF sucessor of EP
Radical and Stumdoes creator of EPforum got an LA later for their commitment
Wistrel we all know wistrel ^_°

i also vote for Starfinder for the tracker

I agree on all of these, and want to add one: Reaky, most ugly avatar I've ever seen...

 

[il]

how could i forget raeky

deffo a ueber nice person as well .. i still have contacts with him over that other space game


hey you should still know the MF dude it was not dan

last time i saw him playing together with his gf

he used to skill SB on umbras

 

[Freyr]

Famous: known to or recognized by many people; renowned (having a widespread, esp good, reputation)

Fame comes and goes, a famous person today could be forgotten tomorrow. An avatar that became inactive could quickly be forgotten because someone that is active takes their place. Only if an avatar which is inactive did something truly remarkable they should be listed as famous.

The nostalgics under us can create a list with people they think should be remembered. Worthy of being remembered shouldn't be confused with Fame.

There quite a few people on this list that say not much or nothing at all me, this while i been around the block a few times in EU. Being the first to discover/do something doesn't make you famous, people are discovering new stuff everyday. High skills or being the best at something necessarily make you famous, It's how you use them that awards fame. Owning A mothership might sound impressive, but hardly worth any fame since there are 19 of them. I guess I could go on a while, but maybe it's just my take on things.

Famous Entropians Part II:

EU Style:

Bambuco - Top Entropian filmaker.

Oncy - Very skilled Entropian artist. Has tried most mediums and is now doing some excellent mask work.

Ido - Once THE top stylist and a current supporter of Entropian arts.

Kara RavenJade - For being a popular radio host and pageant star

Fishface - For being a popular radio host (hosts a radio for 3 hrs a week), and kicked Nukem and Sinofmen Quayjay out of

his soc. Widely regarded as a decent fellow.

Etopia - EU style

JamHot - JamHot radio and videos

I my opinion some avatars are worthy to be called famous in this category.

Missing: Dark Zunami Angel, EU most skilled beautician/stylist (active)
Missing: Alkesh Summer Vallan, EU most skilled texturer (active)
Missing: Leeloo Leeloo Faith, EU most skilled colorer (active, sarah hasn't been seen on over 2 years)
Missing: hypnotica TRANCE blain, Great makeup mask design (active)

Incorrect: Ido - already long time not the highest skilled beautician/stylist anymore. He however was the 1st to make a participant content art gallery, which should be recognized and remembered, but by the definition stated above it doesnt justify fame. (semi-active)
Incorrect: Etopia - EU style, while I agree etopia did alot for EU fashion with his tailoring and shop he used to own, he also he had had quite alot of skills (Starman had most though) he deserves credit and recognition for this. But in my opinion Etopia did not have a sense for style itself. making clothes or making clothes match are two different things. (inactive in this genre)

I would propose a few other people listed under style:
Silicon Skam Chip, for owning a kinda every clothing item ingame, looted or crafted (inactive)
Lady Nadie Hawke, for many awesome & exclusive outfits (active)
Dark Zunami Angel, for winning Miss Arkadia, Miss CND (FOMA) and Miss Calypso twice (active)
Ranger Sheryo Fenriz, for winning Mr Calypso twice (selling-out)
Guess there are quite a few more i can name. but then we better start a separate thread

 

[Coelacanth]

I agree on all of these, and want to add one: Reaky, most ugly avatar I've ever seen...

You mean Raeky (as il said). And yes, she was even uglier than Agrippa (remember him?). Short, dumpy avatar that looked like a mutant dwarf; I always called him Dwalin. But what's more important about both of those players is they were nice, social people that I often chatted with when I met them in Corinth, Twin, or elsewhere. Yes, simply being fugly can make one worthy of note, but add to that being sociable with many other players might just equal "fame". You *knew* those faces (and bodies, in Raeky's case ) the moment you saw them, but they were great players to talk to, get to know, share info with, etc.

ETOPIA could be considered famous; after all, I went to her when I needed some clothes I tailored to be colored successfully, because I knew she was good/skilled, and also because I saw her and chatted with her frequently.

 

[Freyr]

ETOPIA could be considered famous; after all, I went to her when I needed some clothes I tailored to be colored successfully, because I knew she was good/skilled, and also because I saw her and chatted with her frequently.

Didn't I just say that being able to do something doesn't justify fame?
Quite alot of people can do what you just said. Should they now all be famous? And if being chatty or polite alone will make you famous, its going to be a long list.

 

[Coelacanth]

Didn't I just say that being able to do something doesn't justify fame?
Quite alot of people can do what you just said. Should they now all be famous? And if being chatty or polite alone will make you famous, its going to be a long list.

To put it simply, if people come up to you, people you've never met before, and ask you for something: advice, to color clothes, to buy a gun, etc...because they'd heard of you...isn't that a degree of fame? That would describe ETOPIA, in my books.

That happened to me a few times back in my trading days, and before there was a forum like this. Word-of-mouth--good reputation, bad reputation, etc...was passed in-game where it could truly be considered "fame", and not comparable to "forum fame".

 

[Freyr]

.because they'd heard of you...isn't that a degree of fame? That would describe ETOPIA, in my books.

Just like you said it, a degree of fame. while it may be noteworthy. Its hardly not enough to be descibed as famous.
Dont get me wrong I have respect for what Etopia has done for fashion in EU. but running a shop, being able to craft items and being nice describes alot of people. Alot of people that by your definition should also be famous.

in-game where it could truly be considered "fame", and not comparable to "forum fame".

Forum fame? really,. to be famous on forum you are:
1. A big whiner, who should shut up and play or go.
2. A big troll, who should go too
3. In desperate need of a real life, go get a job.
4. actually be doing something different, go do your job.
In my opinion there is not much fame to be found on a forum like this, it does make for a fun or interresting read every now and then though.

 

[Ludvig|MindArk]

To put it simply, if people come up to you, people you've never met before, and ask you for something: advice, to color clothes, to buy a gun, etc...because they'd heard of you...isn't that a degree of fame? That would describe ETOPIA, in my books.

That happened to me a few times back in my trading days, and before there was a forum like this. Word-of-mouth--good reputation, bad reputation, etc...was passed in-game where it could truly be considered "fame", and not comparable to "forum fame".

How would you classify me then? Famous or not?

 

[DaisyColdFinger]

Basic Guidelines

History is always important, but if it has to be noted even for a game, then let it be done properly. I dont think there is any need to over complicate the criteria for fame in EU. In my book, regardless of time spent or the year of which, there are two types of standard acknowledgements.

A Official Acknowledgement
B Community Acknowledgement

The OBVIOUS Criteria

1 Interviews > If someone has been interviewed by well known or established news sources then they are considered famous. Here i would consider the validity of the interview source and their reach in EU at that time.

2 Official Recognition > MA or a PP named something after them, Acknowledged them for whatever. Goes without saying they have been recognised for something extraordinary.

3 References > If they are exceedingly known for something (community support to guidance to whatever), then people will talk about them, make threads about them and so forth....this is a given and OBVIOUS sign.

3 Out of 3 = A List Celeb
2 Out of 3 = B List Celeb
1 Out 0f 3 = C List Celeb

Fame should not be based on PEDS and so OWNERSHIP should not be considered a entry point to fame on a properly structured EU Fame List (That would be a rich list lol).

 

[Wildman Alpha]

So why is Daniel Dan Petrov left out? Dont forget to add Shooting in the knee to mudkicker story.

I have to contact Dan about being listed I believe he was on the original thread and asked to be removed. I will contact him and confirm he does need to be on this list. Regardless if he want his name on the 1st page or not it is throughout the thread already.

Correction:

Paris Dub Hilton AND McCormick - Awarded a gun (Dub and McCormick Terminator) with their name for a promotional video. This part might be wrong but I think they got a male full set Supremacy armor too..

I know this gun I know it existed but for some reason it is no longer in entropedia. If anyone has a link please provide it.

link to original thread in the first post might be a nice gesture.... maybe up by where you mention the first thread's starter.
I have to agree, removing scam option might be ok idea...

The original thread was posted this wasn't my idea originally just expanding on it since it died. I do agree with the use of the word Scam and will rename it to just hated players or something.

Hmm...25% of the names on that list I don't even know, and never encountered them in-game. I also don't know how prominence on a forum, or even moderating it, results in in-game fame. Famous avatars should be ones that most players in-game have heard about or met, not just the ones who login to this website. Fame also shouldn't be restricted only to active players. The most famous people in history are all passed on, no? Fame to me is a legacy you leave behind, more so than current attempts to seem popular. Just IMHO anyway.

A few on this list don't play anymore but they left an impression on many that still do. Popularity is what gets you here others knowing what you have accomplished. What good is it to be the best at something if no one knows you are? But if you were recognized and word spreads you become what is know as "popular" This thread isn't just for the popular but for normal Entropians that have done things to make them stand out. If everyone made the cut to be on the list I should just cut and paste the player registry.

I think traders should be listed under another section!

Still making adjustments looking at that one.

Famous: known to or recognized by many people; renowned (having a widespread, esp good, reputation)

Fame comes and goes, a famous person today could be forgotten tomorrow. An avatar that became inactive could quickly be forgotten because someone that is active takes their place. Only if an avatar which is inactive did something truly remarkable they should be listed as famous.

The nostalgics under us can create a list with people they think should be remembered. Worthy of being remembered shouldn't be confused with Fame.

There quite a few people on this list that say not much or nothing at all me, this while i been around the block a few times in EU. Being the first to discover/do something doesn't make you famous, people are discovering new stuff everyday. High skills or being the best at something necessarily make you famous, It's how you use them that awards fame. Owning A mothership might sound impressive, but hardly worth any fame since there are 19 of them. I guess I could go on a while, but maybe it's just my take on things.

I my opinion some avatars are worthy to be called famous in this category.

Missing: Dark Zunami Angel, EU most skilled beautician/stylist (active)
Missing: Alkesh Summer Vallan, EU most skilled texturer (active)
Missing: Leeloo Leeloo Faith, EU most skilled colorer (active, sarah hasn't been seen on over 2 years)
Missing: hypnotica TRANCE blain, Great makeup mask design (active)

Incorrect: Ido - already long time not the highest skilled beautician/stylist anymore. He however was the 1st to make a participant content art gallery, which should be recognized and remembered, but by the definition stated above it doesnt justify fame. (semi-active)
Incorrect: Etopia - EU style, while I agree etopia did alot for EU fashion with his tailoring and shop he used to own, he also he had had quite alot of skills (Starman had most though) he deserves credit and recognition for this. But in my opinion Etopia did not have a sense for style itself. making clothes or making clothes match are two different things. (inactive in this genre)

I would propose a few other people listed under style:
Silicon Skam Chip, for owning a kinda every clothing item ingame, looted or crafted (inactive)
Lady Nadie Hawke, for many awesome & exclusive outfits (active)
Dark Zunami Angel, for winning Miss Arkadia, Miss CND (FOMA) and Miss Calypso twice (active)
Ranger Sheryo Fenriz, for winning Mr Calypso twice (selling-out)
Guess there are quite a few more i can name. but then we better start a separate thread

I have to agree with this definition of fame 100% Freyr. Look for the changes on names also I can't deny then and give a 2nd vote myself.




With all this I love the response and debate over fame. You may see some come off as they just don't meet the criteria we set as a community as easily as one is voted in they can be voted off also. This will become a living history document.

I also see the need for more changes on the 1st post making changes in the next few minutes some categories added some split and renamed. No need to bash this thread it is ours not mine I an just facilitating what you all agree upon as warrants fame to be noted. Also I don't feel fame fades away the player might but what he accomplished at that given time was noteworthy and so it shall be noted. They may not be the best now but at one point they were and the descriptions will change to reflect that.

I can't do this alone many post since I started and a bunch of PMs, if you don't see a change you posted happen in a day please follow up with me so I can fix it or explain why I didn't.

V/R
Wildman

 

[loren]

I'm really enjoying this list of famous players it kind of confirms all the popularity contests / Events

PS: never heard of half of them but maybe if you knew about at least one they would well be under the list of scammers.

 

[Wildman Alpha]

Looking over the list and I don't get a few myself up for vote to remove them. Feel free to say what you feel just don't get one being voted in for forums myself. Zal being 2nd best trader on RT don't seem notable to me.

Misc:
Zal - Leader of the French Killers, and the second biggest trader of Rocktropia

Foeburner Nighthawk Delta - Well known, active member of calypso forums

HMMM so who was the 1st?
Akbar - Uber sweater and first to reach 4000 in sweat gatherer
MegaVolt - First person to post that he reached 4000 in sweat gatherer and had a sweat camp named after him

Keep in mind this thread has been dead for some time now I am trying to refine it and get it to where the community thinks it should be. I still have some changes from Fryer's post to make.

V/R
Wildman

 

[Cobra The Dark Knight]

fun reading lol what is fame

i think i am the one whit most ATHs ever in game in ming crafting and hunt not the other tiring shit and so only mony ATH

Bet me and com back

and i am not even famous i just play

 

[loren]

fun reading lol what is fame

i think i am the one whit most ATHs ever in game in ming crafting and hunt not the other tiring shit and so only mony ATH

Bet me and com back

and i am not even famous i just play

You are well known then a lot players on this list and for good reasons the right reasons too

 

[Wildman Alpha]

I don't get these entries either can anyone explain how/why they separated themselves from any other MS owner?

Landowners/Item Owners:
John Black Knight, Sbi, and George Ace Skywalker - Owners of various MS and offer rides
Alaina Bonnie Scotia - Loved pilot of the Normadie and part-time pirate, as well as the leader of Age of Enlightenment