Reflections from Landgrab 2009

Jimmy B said:

Keeping it Top 50 also pushes any reasonably strong mid-level players into more skill level oriented socs if they want to take part in land grab.

Taking Skillin' Villains as an example as they managed to challenge a claim for a while this year, without being eligible to actually win it. It's a nice soc with some experienced players who could very much be in the top 50. If they feel pushed into moving into top 50 socs, the newer players lose the advice and perspective of the more experienced players.

If non-top 50 socs had been able to fight, maybe SV would have got 40 odd people in defending their claim and put up a fight for it. Sure, it's a fight that would have been lost in the end, but it would have been an experience for all involved and there'd have actually been some action.

Everyone should be able to fight for land. In all likelyhood all the winners will come from top 50 socs anyway, but the less skilled socs shouldn't be stopped from making them work for it.

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Absolutely right. If SV split into two socs, with say the top 5 forming a new 'SV Elite' soc, we'd be in the Top 50 for sure. Perhaps even our top 10 could get into the 50, but that would be cutting it fine I think.

But that's not an idea we've ever really entertained, because it would dilute the spirit of the society. Most of the newer players appreciate the advice and help they get from the more experienced members, and the fact that there is a mutual respect and friendship across all levels of the society. If we were to remove people like myself, Ari, Twitchie etc, it would radically change the dynamic of the society.

At the same time, I would be sad to no longer be in soc chat with the lower skilled people. They're all my friends, and I like to have them all there together.

Because of that ethic there's absolutely no way that SV will ever get into the Top 50. If I wanted to be in a Top 50 society, I'd have to go elsewhere.

When the Top 50 rule was announced this year I didn't think much of it, thinking it would make no difference to the results. I still don't think a soc outside the top 50 would have any chance of winning a land, so it didn't affect the results in that respect, but it certainly seems to have affected the overall level of engagement.

Raffaele Meiers said:

Woot that is a very good proposal, would certainly help a lot of people in my range to seriously think about taking part. I hope they will decay like MM's or IMK2's

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Really , the decay and amo is something that evryone can afford.. it usual dont cost much more than what you loss during hunting ( i speak about nowday LG , not the old time with old armor decay).put something from 50 to 500 ped per day of LG is not so costly imho...

Marco|FPC said:

My take on Landgrab is that it is a showoff of firepower, tactics and strength of groups. A contest or even a “PvP Olympics” so to speak.

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Ace Flyster said:

More simply put, LG was meant to be a battle

No battle = spirit of LG gone

PS If you havent got it from MArcos post, you never will!

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To begin, I'll apologize in advance because I honestly don't have time at present to sift through the pages of responses this thread has already generated.

That said... Honestly, what's all the fuss about?

"Battles" can be won off the "battlefield" without violence, in a political manner, without a shot being fired. Basically, this was the case at this LG, correct?

An interesting political structure has been created within the game, making Calypso even more "dynamic" for those folks into such things.

However, that same political strategy of winning land off the battlefield can now be applied by individuals willing to organize themselves into an new alliance unwilling to support the new land owners via hunting and mining taxes, essentially making the LG... dare I say...

Worthless?

I'm sure what it boils down to is not enough money being spent by players on LG, and that is (to be polite) moderately disappointing to MA.

how can you say landgrabs are a “PvP Olympics” ? land grabs competition to aquire a steady flow of incoming peds for the winners

i suspect many of the members participating within the alliance have deposited more than the high lvl playeyers they were competing against.

a few old examples

full eon M for 25K
ML-35 ME for TT+5500

i wander how many of the members in the alliance have recently paid a lot over these prices for there armour & weapons ?

i suspect that many of the members have also skilled a lot harder than their higher skilled competitors & would have overtaken them on skills by now if skill gains werent SOO much slower now than when the higher skilled players started.


simply many of the highest lvl players ingame are not where they are becouse of the ammount they have deposited over the years or the ammount of effort they have put into getting there. they are where they are simply because they were LUCKY enough to have known about & started on here early.

does this entitle them to exclusive access to compete in landgrabs ?

The birth of Corporations

Marco|FPC said:

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On the other hand this is not what I really see as the essence of the Landgrab event. My take on Landgrab is that it is a showoff of firepower, tactics and strength of groups. A contest or even a “PvP Olympics” so to speak. We have analyzed the rules and we have some ideas to bring back the original battle-focused approach in the next Landgrab. Some ideas we have is to allocate societies beforehand to specific land areas, using a lottery mechanism, and have all battles transpire at the same time in order to keep people focused on the task at hand. Maybe it will be one-on-one or maybe three societies per land area will be allocated. We will also increase the value of the individual land areas by adding rare or unique DNA to it (and not have the DNA as a separate commodity).

Any suggestions or comments in general are of course valued. Until next Landgrab!

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To make changes so that alliances are not allowed would be a disaster in my opinion. The majority of the player base has shown you what they want. This would not have happened if the majority did not want it to happen. The majority won. To make changes based on not wanting this to happen for the minorities sake will only inflame the beliefs of those that feel certain minorities are being given preferential treatment.

There is an obvious solution to the alliance issue. Create a format for more controlled alliances. This will have two effects, bringing back the battles as seen in LG's of the past and furthering the vision of a governmental system within Entropia. This solution is, Corporation Terminals (for lack of any better name at moment.)

Corporation Terminals: We already have the system in place to use, Society Terminals. Corporation Terminals would work the same way, but instead of individuals applying it would be Societies applying. The exact same types of functions can be applied but would be limited in use by Society leaders only.

Limiting of Absolute Powers: To keep things balanced you can set a limit to how many top 10 ranked Societies may join in a single Corporation. This can be done by limiting it to only 2 or 3 top 10 per single Corporation. Obviously there are many other ways to handle it, the point being though that now there is an answer to controlling the strengths of a single alliance.

Land Ownership: Not much would change there. Lands must be held and maintained during LG in the same manner as is currently the case. The only difference is how tax revenues would be dealt out. The Society that holds the LA after the LG will receive say 50% of revenues divided amongst it's members. The remaining 50% would be divided between the remaining Societies within the Corporation.

By doing the above you will foster to both the majority and minority. The majority may continue using alliances, albeit in a more controlled manor, and due to the limitations on alliances you will be fostering even greater battles then those of the past.

In addition to answering the problem of alliances, you answer the problems of lower level Societies wanting to participate in LG but feeling inadequate to be able to do so against the uber Societies. They can (and will be asked to) become part of a Corporation based on the needs of the system itself.

If you truly wish to see a form of Government within EU you will not want to take alliances out of LG. Just the opposite, you will want to foster it. All governments have come about from the initial need for organization for the acquiring and control of resources. The only resource within Entropia Universe large enough to accomplish that are these very Land Areas.

Long live alliances and the seeds to the future.

Coffee

Edit: I forgot to include this for wich I posted below and remembered when replying to Skam's post.

All this talk about individuals showing off their own fire power though should be handled in a different manner. We have many many months of nothing in between LG. Bring out the Gladiatorial Battles. A whole new event should be put into place for this reason. Don't try to alter something that already works. All it will do is brig back the bad feelings of all the mid level players who feel left out of LG. LG should be for everyone and my post is a way to make that happen.

As an totaly bysitter from this and have no more noledge from whatching it befor and reading all millions of posts here on EF .

What first poped in my mind after all years playin FPS on high level and years of gaming is why not set that landmarker as an HQ , now what i understand is that all who has 2 be done is 2 protect and camp , why not make the marker destructible , then you have 2 options either kill all camping it or destroy the marker ( example marker have an amount of hits it most take befor being destroyed) .

If destroyed you would have an new marker spawn on difrent place within LA , this would open up that more peaplo would hafto be spread as well open more tactics both then attack/defend .

You could allsow take this further by having not 1 marker in 1 LA but 3

The soc score most minits combined on the 3 markers win .

Well just one sugestion who poped my mind , bad or good i dont know you deside .

Coffee, your idea sounds great if it wasnt for this:

What would keep Corporations from creating alliances in between them?
Basically its just stepping up socities to another level. It wont rid alliances, just make them more complex.

a simple way to encourage diplomacy would be to have the society terminal "veiw" markers actually mean something.

for example:

friendly would mean you cannot kill a member of that society in any situation.
neutral lets things stay as they are.
hostile would mean you can kill a member of that society in any situation.

of course, freelancers would be neutral to everyone.

this would probably make towns pretty dangerous for rival groups. kind of like frontier town in the old west colonization period of the USA. there might be sporadic firefights on the street...who knows.

for certain, people would be more aware of what's going on. and, there'd be lots of enterainment for the by-standers.

I'm sure there'd be some who'd create a society just to mark every other society red, but in the long run, I don't think they'd last too long.

Skam said:

Coffee, your idea sounds great if it wasnt for this:

What would keep Corporations from creating alliances in between them?
Basically its just stepping up socities to another level. It wont rid alliances, just make them more complex.

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The system itself will do that. There may be initial agreements to LA's as has been done in past, but the remaining LA's (anything left over after the first is claimed) will be fought hard for. This is due to the effect Corporations will have on leveling any one sides strength. The effect will be that the remaining LA's will have battles on a much larger scale then ever before due to so many now having a true stake at the outcome. No one side will feel the need to lay down to another due to balance of power issues.

In addition there is the continuance of how LG can progress. I have many more ideas as to how LG can become an ongoing part of EU year round once Corporations have taken a hold and an actual government system comes into play.

All this talk about individuals showing off their own fire power though should be handled in a different manner. We have many many months of nothing in between LG. Bring out the Gladiatorial Battles. A whole new event should be put into place for this reason. Don't try to alter something that already works. All it will do is brig back the bad feelings of all the mid level players who feel left out of LG. LG should be for everyone and my post is a way to make that happen.

Xen said:

Warants whines, MA listens.

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Exactly. No other society getting majestially r**ed by some LG allies would cause such a hype and threads (even started by Marco|FPS) like this.

No big surprise there.

This, in my book, is a bigger issue than the fact that there was a little less pewpew in LG2009 than in former Landgrabs.

Just my , kthxbye

Here's a joke (don't take it the wrong way )

Q: Why wasn't Skalman able to enter the Land Area?
A: He had to go and get a "warrant" first!

I don't really see any benefit by only letting the top 50 socs compete in the LG, it doesn't seem fair at all to me. But then I haven't PVPed anything so what do I know. But if I made the rules I would let all that wanted try to get a LA.

As an outsider from all the socs involved im on warants side, they had every right to whine. This was a big let down for LG and i am personally disappointed and on warants side

Reflections from Landgrab 2009

Because Marco had a reflection about this landgrab ( MA or CP dont usually do that ) so i want to ask him what was so special this year and what did he expect how it sould be.

Sir Valentin.

Some ideas for Marco & co :

* 1 piece of land per soc, not more than 1 ! The honor is in getting 1.
- Allocation of a piece of land for each 5 to 5+X soc (allows a big range)
- LA 1 : Soc 1-5
- LA 2 : Soc 6-10
- ...
- LA 20 : Soc 95-100

* Ranking taken at a certain unpredictable date and KEPT (no +5 rule)
- Not ranking and then 2 days before again !

* If support is allowed, limit to 1-2 socs and predefine alliance teams
- Implement this so we see enemies as enemies on the radar
- Support should be possible in my opinion
- Number of players in alliance (soc + support) should be in line
between rivals. Limit the total number of player differences allowed.

* Make it an event area and let people/socs subscribe (FREE ENTRY)
- Ofc only assigned soc's may enter
- You have event chat channel to talk in
- Get those event people on radar in the same color !

* Reduce the death time as there will be less participants in 1 place.
- The rockets and team work are not in balance with 5 min death.
- Above rules limit lag and allow faster revive.

Just some ideas ...

Atami

PS : The above still allows the warants not get land, so that sounds gr8

valentin said:

Reflections from Landgrab 2009

Because Marco had a reflection about this landgrab ( MA or CP dont usually do that ) so i want to ask him what was so special this year and what did he expect how it sould be.

Sir Valentin.

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He, like most of us expected a huge battle between the very best. Are you seriously saying that you haven't figured that out yet, taking into account the hundreds of posts on the matter?

Reflections...

Auktuma said:

One more thing I wish to point out - in order to get profit we should offer something to people who pay us profit. Than that will be fair exchange. Be that mood, entertainment, gifts, items, money or feeling of usefulness. Something to think about to winners and anyone who have profits on have you deserved already or you got debt to community after your winnings...

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I've posted it already somwhere on EF and would like to bring it up once again on "reflections".

Land grab and land areas. Was it about just a form of gift to highest ranked societies or FPC intended to "sell" that land areas and to bring "profit" to whole community, to us? In form of new events, gear, HOFs, ATHs. I'm for 2nd version. But that's just my opinion.
Top societies paid a lot for the pk gear but do they used it? They could restore most of their PEDs now by selling all that gear. Do I see poor picture before LG2010 or any other grand PvP event or at least long period after LG - no one buying Felis, no one buying infiltrators, no one buying shear amps, no one buying looted pk gear. People saved it from last LG. Due to absence of demand crafters do not go fishing for blueprints and market on ores is same low as before anouncement of landgrab. "happy" crafters, "happy" miners... Do you like that picture?
I will gratz once again all the winners - great show, great strategy and tactics, but, my dear friends, think on once again - you got high valued assets what will bring you profit paid by us - try to make our life a litle more brighter after your touch. You are top Icons and so much on our life depends from your activity. Bring us entertainment and we will pay you and will be happy.

Peace,
/auk

Auktuma said:

Reflections...



I've posted it already somwhere on EF and would like to bring it up once again on "reflections".

Land grab and land areas. Was it about just a form of gift to highest ranked societies or FPC intended to "sell" that land areas and to bring "profit" to whole community, to us? In form of new events, gear, HOFs, ATHs. I'm for 2nd version. But that's just my opinion.
Top societies paid a lot for the pk gear but do they used it? They could restore most of their PEDs now by selling all that gear. Do I see poor picture before LG2010 or any other grand PvP event or at least long period after LG - no one buying Felis, no one buying infiltrators, no one buying shear amps, no one buying looted pk gear. People saved it from last LG. Due to absence of demand crafters do not go fishing for blueprints and market on ores is same low as before anouncement of landgrab. "happy" crafters, "happy" miners... Do you like that picture?
I will gratz once again all the winners - great show, great strategy and tactics, but, my dear friends, think on once again - you got high valued assets what will bring you profit paid by us - try to make our life a litle more brighter after your touch. You are top Icons and so much on our life depends from your activity. Bring us entertainment and we will pay you and will be happy.

Peace,
/auk

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Respectful words from a respectful man!

Imagine this everyone.....

Next LG if things dont change (they probably will) Auktuma, Maximus Alive, Fera, NZR and Co. dont go fishing for your infiltraitor BP's losing thousands crafting Ghost etc that is worthless nowadays, they dont make Felis, Shear pro's etc......

Its all part of a the greater picture a ripple affect if you will.

Auktuma said:

Reflections...



I've posted it already somwhere on EF and would like to bring it up once again on "reflections".

Land grab and land areas. Was it about just a form of gift to highest ranked societies or FPC intended to "sell" that land areas and to bring "profit" to whole community, to us? In form of new events, gear, HOFs, ATHs. I'm for 2nd version. But that's just my opinion.
Top societies paid a lot for the pk gear but do they used it? They could restore most of their PEDs now by selling all that gear. Do I see poor picture before LG2010 or any other grand PvP event or at least long period after LG - no one buying Felis, no one buying infiltrators, no one buying shear amps, no one buying looted pk gear. People saved it from last LG. Due to absence of demand crafters do not go fishing for blueprints and market on ores is same low as before anouncement of landgrab. "happy" crafters, "happy" miners... Do you like that picture?
I will gratz once again all the winners - great show, great strategy and tactics, but, my dear friends, think on once again - you got high valued assets what will bring you profit paid by us - try to make our life a litle more brighter after your touch. You are top Icons and so much on our life depends from your activity. Bring us entertainment and we will pay you and will be happy.

Peace,
/auk

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I don't think we need to be so gloomy. People involved in this LG are people that LOVE pk. They will burn those items and buy some more in 9 months. Ofc, that is if MA makes reasons for them to do so. I know people from cK and cKS are in pvp4 all the time. Rilort burns 1 LR66 full TT in one day in ring only. So people are not "cheap" They are in to have fun. Put in 2-3 RX attacks each month and you see the community without armors and weapons in no time.

BlackHawk said:

They will burn those items and buy some more in 9 months.

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I've talked about LG but not about background pking what happen usual day. It's their fun and they pay for it. Isn't that? Isn't it worth to pay for PKing fun?
LG is expected to be different due to high value will be won. Or you would like to say you don't care about what for you get that value? "Deposit and pay me my profit. If you wont pay - MA will find us new newcommers...". We dont wanna advertize and spend our time/money on that... Any man who joined and dissapointed in media will share bad opinion to friends in real life. Why he will get dissapointed - main reason usualy is too expensive life in comparison to quality and entertainment. You force MA to grow entertainment, but dont you people mind that expenses of life depends much part on you? Much part of entertainment also depends on us. I'm not good organizer, I'm not good chatter so I set my goal to make life less expensive. What are you doing for our community? I dont ask you to respond on this thread - answer that in your mind.

Peace, dear BlackHawk,
peace, dear people

/auk

Cmon, people, don't I see smiley on you? Skip my posts and come back to suggestions. Life's good! Who got beer?

Might have had some ideas for improvements, and if situation had been as it was a year ago would even have worked hard on some alternatives discussing in soc etc to try and help out to make this a better event for all of us.
But considering MA/FPC showed beyond the reason of a doubt that they dont care about input from Art of War, have absolutely zero respect for the society, and continually ignore us regarding correspondance etc to the degree that half of my society (which might be the most hardcore PE/EU lovers you have ingame tbh) almost quit a while back, i think ill simply pass.

Im sure many will laugh @this, call me stuff, and wonder wtf im on about.
I dont really care.
The people that actually know me will know this isnt really something id just post "for fun".

Regardless though i guess there isnt anything more to say that hasnt been said already, several times on the actual LG discussion, so move on, nothing to see here.

valentin said:

Reflections from Landgrab 2009

Because Marco had a reflection about this landgrab ( MA or CP dont usually do that ) so i want to ask him what was so special this year and what did he expect how it sould be.

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The reason is quite simple. Under my charge First Planet Company will interact much more with the community than in the past. The vision of the community can never be fullfilled without communication and understanding why things are like they are or why decisions where made the way they where. I am sure the community and FPC will clash on many occassions, but hopefully less than before, and when it does happen, the clashes will be understood even if they aren't agreed upon.

Marco|FPC said:

The reason is quite simple. Under my charge First Planet Company will interact much more with the community than in the past. The vision of the community can never be fullfilled without communication and understanding why things are like they are or why decisions where made the way they where. I am sure the community and FPC will clash on many occassions, but hopefully less than before, and when it does happen, the clashes will be understood even if they aren't agreed upon.

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Do you agree that we should have more player created content?

Player created events would be an example.

Marco|FPC said:

The reason is quite simple. Under my charge First Planet Company will interact much more with the community than in the past. The vision of the community can never be fullfilled without communication and understanding why things are like they are or why decisions where made the way they where. I am sure the community and FPC will clash on many occassions, but hopefully less than before, and when it does happen, the clashes will be understood even if they aren't agreed upon.

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And no one will faulter you for this.

If anything : This is history in the making, LG 2009 wasn't.

If you think otherwise,
You have lost sight of the grandeur opportunity which lays infront of you.

There will always be teething issues until you understand that people want to speak to Marco in an honest manner and not have PRarco in the way of communicating with Marco to make real/true progress on a service offering lacking in so many areas.

I, and I am sure I speak for many others too, understand you guys are proud of the system, though let us not be too proud to the point it becomes counter-productive and continues to piss people off;

Let us work together to make Entropia something everyone can be proud of.

That is the goal after all isn't it,
A happy & balanced unison of customer and provider ?

Like in all relationships, not everyone is going to be happy about everything,
Yet common grounds can be found and people (customers & providers) make compromises.

Even if this means having to put a bit of hard work into bringing Calypso and the Entropia System core back into a marketable shape that does not need to be lied about as to how great it is and how proud people are of it, on both sides of the fence.

Marco on a personal level, you have an opportunity that many in the RW rarely get to see in their life-time;

Next year is 2010, you have the opportunity to make Entropia Universe, not only planet Calypso, something great that will bring the spotlight to Entropia Universe and all partner worlds, not only Calypso, as the place to experience virtual life throughout the next decade.

Please do not be ignorant by being too proud and waste such an opportunity to launch Entropia into the new decade.

Your a smart chap, and I feel this is something your more than capable of.
Even if you are still in the process of earning the respect to do so from the Board of Mind Company directors which your a part of.

We have had:

1970s the electronics/computer revolution,
1980s the WWW revolution,
1990s the communications revolution,
2000s the MMO revolution;

Now comes:

2010 the Virtual Life & RCE revolution.

What role are you going to play in history and the marketplace ?
Think beyond MindArk/FPC CEO just for a moment.

Remember you are the MA-Enterprise, Flagship planet of Entropia Universe.
It is your planet that the main focus will be on.

The real/true measure of worth and attraction to the platform from the mass market will always be done upon the flagship world, not on the partner franchises whom are mere reflections of the flagship world platform mechanics & systems in action.

That is just the way life is and always has been concerning platform scenarios.
First Planet Company puts you smack bang in the center of the universe, in the center of the spotlight, right under the microscope

I hope your a little more aware than you were before to the extent of the sphere of influence your choices, actions & reactions have upon the entire Entropia Universe system and all who belong to the system. Participants, Partners and their participants alike.

And no amount of PR to take focus off Calypso will erase a public media trail that spans more than half a decade.

That is REAL-ity for you, nothing virtual about these facts.

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I've typed this at least eight times and killed the post each time. For some reason, I keep thinking that no one will really understand what I'm about to say and think that I'm just one of those "Pro-Alliance" noobs..

I personally do not agree that LG 2009 was such a bad thing. Yes, it was boring. Yes, it did not live up to the fights that prior LGs had but I do not think that the Alliance itself caused that. I think that no one was prepared for what that image would look like on the field and just walked away from the fight.

I submit to you that if the teams outside the alliance would have worked as hard as those in the alliance did, the battle would have been incredible and LG 2009 would have gone down as the best ever.

This year showed that if you are smart and well organized, you can win and win big and that nothing is written in stone in EU.

My suggestions would be the following:

• Drop the Top-50 rule - let everyone compete
• Create a way to officially designate socs as Allied in the fight (I think the Soc terminal has a "Soc Attitude" which could serve nicely for this). Those that are allied with each other cannot PK each other and when LG starts get a color in their avatar monicker.
• Lastly, let the politics have their play on the teams.

I think you will find that after this year, Socs will start preparing for next year RIGHT NOW. This will still be the event of the year and it will be talked about, bantered around, negotiated and bargained about all year long.

I also think that the more rules and regulations you put on it, the less people will want to participate in it.

My

Marco|FPC said:

The reason is quite simple. Under my charge First Planet Company will interact much more with the community than in the past. The vision of the community can never be fullfilled without communication and understanding why things are like they are or why decisions where made the way they where. I am sure the community and FPC will clash on many occassions, but hopefully less than before, and when it does happen, the clashes will be understood even if they aren't agreed upon.

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Please see my thread posted for an added event that should satisfy the minorities instead of changing the current Land Grab.

The Gladiatorial Battles.

Land Grab itself should not be taking steps backwards to being dominated solely by a couple of the strongest only societies. Instead my post further above should be looked at as a way to include all of EU as many have cried for time and time again. The option for an event like what I describe in my new thread would instead be the new showcase for what the most skilled of players are wanting.

I would love to see feedback on that thread.

Auktuma said:

I've talked about LG but not about background pking what happen usual day. It's their fun and they pay for it. Isn't that? Isn't it worth to pay for PKing fun?

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Is worth, and they do pay. And they pay a lot for that.

Auktuma said:

LG is expected to be different due to high value will be won. Or you would like to say you don't care about what for you get that value? "Deposit and pay me my profit. If you wont pay - MA will find us new newcommers...".

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You make it sound like people got anything for free in this LG. And you make it sound like they owe to someone to spend a certain amount, or to behave in a certain way. I can't agree with that. Each man can choose for himself what he can do, what he can spend, and if you can profit from something, then is good.

Auktuma said:

We dont wanna advertize and spend our time/money on that... Any man who joined and dissapointed in media will share bad opinion to friends in real life. Why he will get dissapointed - main reason usualy is too expensive life in comparison to quality and entertainment.

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You are right. At times, it is too expensive the entertainment in EU. But is too expensive a certain kind of entertainment. We all can go for the fun we can afford, and all is just okay. I am sure we would all find it entertaining to travel around the world, visit all the beautiful places and just do what we like best. But in reality, all those are limited by what we can afford to do. Same in EU. You make it sound like is my job to make it fun, easy and cheap for anyone else. I assure you, for me is as hard as it is for anyone else, if not harder.

Auktuma said:

You force MA to grow entertainment, but dont you people mind that expenses of life depends much part on you? Much part of entertainment also depends on us. I'm not good organizer, I'm not good chatter so I set my goal to make life less expensive.

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That may be your goal. Good luck with that. But don't make a religion out of it. Because is not necessarily good thing too do. You are at a level where you may afford to do that, but making cheaper things in EU in your activity, will make market value to go down, and make it more expensive for the rest of the crafters that try to craft same things. So the argument that you make things cheapper, and therefor is better for community is a false one and misleading. Because you make it FAR more expensive for a lot of people. Is good for some and bad for others.

Auktuma said:

What are you doing for our community? I dont ask you to respond on this thread - answer that in your mind.

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It seems that is a personal question... and I am not sure is right to ask anyone that, but I will answer. I am one of the most active players in EU. I generate huge turnover every month, and with whatever I sell, people manage to craft, skill, have resources available. I am a prove that the game works and if you do things right you can profit. I am a prove that if you skill you do well. I do my best to help people understand the universe and to make a good experience out of it. My goal is not to try to make it cheapper for anyone. For that we have this RCE, where all things have a market value set by demand. But people should learn how to make it cheaper themselves. No one will ever give anything for free, and nothing free or cheap is ever appreciated. Not to mention that to be where I am I deposited a lot and choosed to pay a lot for some items and skills, investing a lot of trust in this universe. And the fact that I was successful, and my investment is good, sets a good personal example for all people that consider investing in something in EU. So I think I do something for community...



It was important to address this post, because many people not involved in the event think that the opportunity to burn a lot of decay was wasted and the community will suffer out of that, and we, because it was no fight, cheated, and did not payed the community with what it deserves. But this is false, and is just not true. The reality is that all that was supposed to be spent in that event WILL be spent. We spend even more.

And asking us to make it cheaper for some by making it more expensive for us... why would we accept that? Anyway, you fail to understand that in LG is more than just the possible financial benefit. Is about proving who can and who can not take land. And about tolerating some to take land and not tolerating others.

Marco|FPC said:

The reason is quite simple. Under my charge First Planet Company will interact much more with the community than in the past. The vision of the community can never be fullfilled without communication and understanding why things are like they are or why decisions where made the way they where. I am sure the community and FPC will clash on many occassions, but hopefully less than before, and when it does happen, the clashes will be understood even if they aren't agreed upon.

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Great words.....


I bet next LG will have more alliances than one. BTW with the +5 rule you made the forging of alliances a must dont you think so?

Why is it so important to hold a event for 1% of the population of EU and sponsor it with several 100K Ped of value?

When income to MA is as on a normal day why bother with the LG and the lesser fighting?

what will happen with the egg and when?

when will you start correct faults that are in system for more than a year? I know you promized it already at least once that MA will now squash all bugs?

Why is a second place price more valuable than first place price (or at least of same value when in other categories there was a significant difference between first and second place price)?

What happend to HunterZ and the other avatar with many LA's what was its name Nostrop?

When will the LA's be free again?

Awaiting your/FPC's communication like I think many many more in EU

Marco|FPC said:

The reason is quite simple. Under my charge First Planet Company will interact much more with the community than in the past. The vision of the community can never be fullfilled without communication and understanding why things are like they are or why decisions where made the way they where. I am sure the community and FPC will clash on many occassions, but hopefully less than before, and when it does happen, the clashes will be understood even if they aren't agreed upon.

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Nicely said and the extra communication is appreciated Yes, you can't please all the ppl all the time but you certainly can avoid huge conflicts when possible. Clarity is a good thing.

Raffaele Meiers said:

What happend to HunterZ and the other avatar with many LA's what was its name Nostrop?

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Nice work slowly manoeuvring from on-topic to completely off-topic within the same post