Pirate
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- Joined
- Jul 4, 2010
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- Location
- Sicily, Italy
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- Angel's and Devil's
- Avatar Name
- Intergalactic Space Pirate
Let me start this thread by providing the original link to the discussed topic :
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/general-discussion/196509-hell-my-soc-m8-giving-up.html
This thread was made, as a informative loss by a society member, and what occured to them recently regarding some valuable item's. It was in turn locked by a moderator <JohnCapital>, which I wholly disagree with, and this is a copy of my response to JohnCapitol via PM. The reason I am making this public, is to add a little bit more credit back to the situation of the above original post, and the opinion I have that the moderator made a error in blocking the thread. Hopefully this shines back on poor allnighter's original problem, and reopen's the thread. However, I srsly doubt it, and anticipate it will be blocked or deleted promply upon a moderator stumbling across it. Read it while you can
John,
I have a problem with you John, and your action's on locking Allnighter's thread about the stolen item's. I'm a straightforward kind of person, so I hope you take the time to understand why.
Allnighter's Character. (A little background on the person)
Allnighter recently sold an amp, worth ballpark ----USD (Irrelevant), quite a rare find. He is also the kind of person, I've had time to sit back in society and watch, and see that he would give the shirt off his back for someone else, and as a result, he's prob lent out half that value to soc member's that needed help since then. He's a great soc member, and a nice guy, period. He's also quite adept and been around a few years now, mentioning that only to follow up by saying he wouldn't begin a post on the basis of a false accusation. Now we can't win them all with helping everyone out, and as such, this ordeal just bit him for 10,000ped or ballpark thereof. Not fun, even for the more illustrious member's of EU, especially not for us normal half-broke ones. As such he made a thread, one I back him up 100% on.
Now, you mentioned on your final post, before locking it, that Allnighter had no proof, and that he ought to beware ruining anther's reputation on EU for misguided blame. While I do, and I do, understand your point here, it's quite difficult to reply to that when you lock your thread immediately thereafter isn't it. Honestly it makes him look rather shameful for being wrong in the first place, making it that much harder for him to get acknowledgment and losing believability yes? Personally, I think so. Truth of the matter is there IS proof of the ordeal gone sour with that exact person (screenshot's, ect), and this thread wasn't made ill advised. However as per rule 2.13, we can't publicly bang another in specific's here on the forum, thus I think he did a good job of editing his words.
My main argument here is this :
Why lock the thread in the first place? It break's no rules (via 2.13). Allnighter's well respected, and people will read this and beware having it done to them in return for future reference.
There is proof, which is not handled publicly on forum's, thus, the post is edited not to mention names in specific's, and break's no rules.
Why lock the thread over not providing specific's to prove it was justified, it would have just broke rule 2.13 and thus been deleted anyway. Instead you mention that not being 100% sure and leading false accusations is a proverbial no-no, which I should hope every person on EU knew when then started, and thus need's no mentioning. Your reason for locking the thread was exactly? THIS is exactly why it's non-specific, and put into story format to warn other's. I think you did more harm than good locking it, personally.
To end it, I know it's a long thread, apologies. Allnighter's a good player, well respected, and has a nice hard time ahead of him with this dilemma anyway, why make it harder on him. I personally wasn't around when he made the thread, but I agree with making it now, 1000%. Damn shame it got locked, more need to know about this sort of thing.
Feel free to do what you must in retaliation to my post here, I really don't beat around the bush when I have something I need to say, and I felt this was warranted.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/general-discussion/196509-hell-my-soc-m8-giving-up.html
This thread was made, as a informative loss by a society member, and what occured to them recently regarding some valuable item's. It was in turn locked by a moderator <JohnCapital>, which I wholly disagree with, and this is a copy of my response to JohnCapitol via PM. The reason I am making this public, is to add a little bit more credit back to the situation of the above original post, and the opinion I have that the moderator made a error in blocking the thread. Hopefully this shines back on poor allnighter's original problem, and reopen's the thread. However, I srsly doubt it, and anticipate it will be blocked or deleted promply upon a moderator stumbling across it. Read it while you can
John,
I have a problem with you John, and your action's on locking Allnighter's thread about the stolen item's. I'm a straightforward kind of person, so I hope you take the time to understand why.
Allnighter's Character. (A little background on the person)
Allnighter recently sold an amp, worth ballpark ----USD (Irrelevant), quite a rare find. He is also the kind of person, I've had time to sit back in society and watch, and see that he would give the shirt off his back for someone else, and as a result, he's prob lent out half that value to soc member's that needed help since then. He's a great soc member, and a nice guy, period. He's also quite adept and been around a few years now, mentioning that only to follow up by saying he wouldn't begin a post on the basis of a false accusation. Now we can't win them all with helping everyone out, and as such, this ordeal just bit him for 10,000ped or ballpark thereof. Not fun, even for the more illustrious member's of EU, especially not for us normal half-broke ones. As such he made a thread, one I back him up 100% on.
Now, you mentioned on your final post, before locking it, that Allnighter had no proof, and that he ought to beware ruining anther's reputation on EU for misguided blame. While I do, and I do, understand your point here, it's quite difficult to reply to that when you lock your thread immediately thereafter isn't it. Honestly it makes him look rather shameful for being wrong in the first place, making it that much harder for him to get acknowledgment and losing believability yes? Personally, I think so. Truth of the matter is there IS proof of the ordeal gone sour with that exact person (screenshot's, ect), and this thread wasn't made ill advised. However as per rule 2.13, we can't publicly bang another in specific's here on the forum, thus I think he did a good job of editing his words.
My main argument here is this :
Why lock the thread in the first place? It break's no rules (via 2.13). Allnighter's well respected, and people will read this and beware having it done to them in return for future reference.
There is proof, which is not handled publicly on forum's, thus, the post is edited not to mention names in specific's, and break's no rules.
Why lock the thread over not providing specific's to prove it was justified, it would have just broke rule 2.13 and thus been deleted anyway. Instead you mention that not being 100% sure and leading false accusations is a proverbial no-no, which I should hope every person on EU knew when then started, and thus need's no mentioning. Your reason for locking the thread was exactly? THIS is exactly why it's non-specific, and put into story format to warn other's. I think you did more harm than good locking it, personally.
To end it, I know it's a long thread, apologies. Allnighter's a good player, well respected, and has a nice hard time ahead of him with this dilemma anyway, why make it harder on him. I personally wasn't around when he made the thread, but I agree with making it now, 1000%. Damn shame it got locked, more need to know about this sort of thing.
Feel free to do what you must in retaliation to my post here, I really don't beat around the bush when I have something I need to say, and I felt this was warranted.