News: The Expansion of Entropia Universe

[Shadowsong]

Everyone can't break even, let alone profit.

For everyone to break even we would need a crazy stream of money poured into the game that isn't from players. .....

This ^

Exactly why every streamer or content creator who finds a way to monetise their content is a conduit for that revenue stream.

If that content appeals to an audience that isn't even playing the game, and that appeal translates to monetised returns, we will finally have the one thing the economy needs - a desirable export product to swing our "balance of trade".

If these probes enable creative content creation it will add to the options for producers to attract audiences. Never underestimate the passionate enthusiast's ability to garner attention, and translate that into further growth.

Entropia is awash with talent in the player base, just waiting for a viable mode for expression.

 

[Litesorin]

Everyone can't break even, let alone profit.

For everyone to break even we would need a crazy stream of money poured into the game that isn't from players. As long as there is markup people will lose, as long as MA needs their cut people will lose.

Only way for everyone to break even without money coming in would be if nothing had markup, all multipliers would be removed and someone sponsored the servers and staff.

Speaking of which, why don't we have ads in game?

If there are 5000 players and everyone is exposed for an average of ten ads any given night that would mean we could have another 2k Hof and happy player every day.

lol good point but I’d shoot my toon with all those adds I honestly wouldn’t know myself how to stimulate the economy but maybe daily resources gathering mission chain for the items that aren’t being used

 

[WhiningSkeptic]

lol good point but I’d shoot my toon with all those adds I honestly wouldn’t know myself how to stimulate the economy but maybe daily resources gathering mission chain for the items that aren’t being used

Any time stimulating the economy comes up I spam the same answer - Quality of life changes.

Here are a few examples:

I use lootpills which I buy from TT since we aren't allowed to buy strongboxes in sweden. If say new players got a bunch of lootpills in loot that had 50m range then I would happily pay quite a bit for these. I don't mind spending 20-30 ped a night to make the game enjoyable while 20-30 ped in MU to some low level player is hours worth of playing.

High resolution ads would be cool. If there was a big ass adboard that was easy to put a message on and that I knew people would see I probably would have spent a couple hundred a few weeks ago while drunk to post there about mine, Bobby's ans Celeste's love triangle.

Limited weapons with insane damage. Some of us play for fun. If I could double my DPS for a night I would so it regularly even if the weapon is super inefficient. I spent a bunch on high TIR L stuff to be able to hunt bigger mobs.

All around fun and stupid stuff to create markup. There are plenty of things but I need to get back to work so I can afford losing some more tonight.

 

[Litesorin]

Any time stimulating the economy comes up I spam the same answer - Quality of life changes.

Here are a few examples:

I use lootpills which I buy from TT since we aren't allowed to buy strongboxes in sweden. If say new players got a bunch of lootpills in loot that had 50m range then I would happily pay quite a bit for these. I don't mind spending 20-30 ped a night to make the game enjoyable while 20-30 ped in MU to some low level player is hours worth of playing.

High resolution ads would be cool. If there was a big ass adboard that was easy to put a message on and that I knew people would see I probably would have spent a couple hundred a few weeks ago while drunk to post there about mine, Bobby's ans Celeste's love triangle.

Limited weapons with insane damage. Some of us play for fun. If I could double my DPS for a night I would so it regularly even if the weapon is super inefficient. I spent a bunch on high TIR L stuff to be able to hunt bigger mobs.

All around fun and stupid stuff to create markup. There are plenty of things but I need to get back to work so I can afford losing some more tonight.

Yes quality of life is a fantastic idea I’m the same way I buy strongboxes for the added fun and more ammo. I don’t plan on withdrawing nothing I’m literally paying mindark too make my gaming experience better. I know they short staffed and there is a lot of work to be done programming is not easy but just being able to grow my own fruits. There’s no way I wouldn’t spend more money if I’m actually enjoying resources collecting not just mining for resources it gets old new crafting missions and there are so meany lost bps that would be great to have ughhh lol now I’m ranting I’m going to do the same when I’m done working. Hey mindark can I trade my plot tokens in for a planter in my apartment?

 

[jetsina]

My pickups from the last twenty posts or so are that ND is still very much with us and this universe, but is still stuck (now as a player) in terms of looting enough scottium to get the mus to a reasonable percentage.
It got me thinking more about the mechanics of grabbing a planet in the future, and how quickly someone will be able to provide an attractive world that is also in line with what the new dev package will allow.
MA notoriously don't provide even close to enough details to properly assess a potential investment: certainly not to normal players with normal access to info.

Even the most basic info such as what percentage chance a probe will have of finding something to work with using the editor may stay hidden.
However, if a probe costs 100 peds (tt) - mu unknown - then the chances of success are presumably low. It may be that there is then only a 1:1000 chance of a probe finding a planet (just example figures for the sake of argument).
What if a "successful" loot is a planet token that must be exchanged at an NPC that "conveniently" runs out of planets in a flash and isn't restocked?

If a probe is known in advance to cost 100k peds, then maybe a success is guaranteed. But then the new 'game' begins of how the terraforming/editing tools will work, what further costs may be incurred etc. We may not see this side of things at all once that first new planet comes in either, just an idea of potential maybe.

Even 100k peds may be way too cheap. Again it depends on what MA have in mind for the size and availability of these 'planets'...
These are just questions and thoughts, not judgements...

Edit: oh, I assume if it is a bit of a probe lottery, then lucky winners may opt to sell a majority of the planet shares immediately to someone who is willing to develop the new planet (selling planet shares@boxes?). That way, many people will be paying for one or more people to 'win', but we could still end up with planets in the hands of people who will take things forward.

 

[RJ-Rob]

I think that many players are just annoyed with how ND neglected RT and most players feel bitter towards him. So of course there is going to be people who is speaking their mind and expressing their anger and frustration his way.

Yeah ND might still be a player. But he has been in MA's group for over a decade now.

Am I bitter about this new direction yes of course I am. As I have stated this new idea of "Genesis Probe" to create planets will not work without the player base to support it.

What is more is the current items in the game and even all the old pre gold items will lose a lot of value because all of the new planets will then create more items. As I stated. The game is already oversaturated. Making more planets and more items without the player base is just suicide for the entire economy the only winner here is MA who is probably doing this as a last ditch money grab. MA never advertise the game. I think they only advertised when it went gold.

They rely on the player base/affiliates/Planet partners to advertise and bring new players in for them.

I am glad I sold most of my items before I had a break from the game because I have heard and checked in game auction and a lot of items have lost a lot of value already. I was waiting for UE5 but by the sounds of this latest news release, it appears UE5 could be another 4 years away yet.

Honestly it should not have even taken this long really. I am shocked it has. But everyone knows MA are slow at everything. They never communicate. Withdraw times are still disgusting timeframes. MA is just a shit company.

We need them to sell up and get the f out and let some other game company take over because things have to change.

One last thing, if EU is not going to be on Epic Games Store then I do not see how this new planet feature will bring in a vast amount of new players either. The game badly needs to be advertised and MA need to start communicating EVERYTHING and OFTEN. Why has many players quit the game over the years. Mainly because of how bad MA is and how bad the loot is lol.

Anyway I am done with my rant post.

 

[AxeMurderer]

How much LAs BIG sold? 1 mill USD? Price of the probe 10 mill peds? Coincidence? Probably.

BTW I Am trying to find QA sort of: Q: Will UE5 be new Hadeshim? A: no just cataxlysmic event

 

[Evey]

The OP is vague enough to cause confusion.

Isn't that the whole point? The OP is ment to create some buzz and hype... At the moment is probably not very clear to any department, but just sketched maybe. It is an option, a thing for the future, obviously not for everyone and will be quite expensive to get it anywhere..

 

[avalonis]

there are few people- too many planets- in fact, everything could have been done on 1 planet- but no, let's all do planets haha- chaos abandoned planets

 

[DaisyColdFinger]

there are few people- too many planets- in fact, everything could have been done on 1 planet- but no, let's all do planets haha- chaos abandoned planets

The smart play would be to enable new account creation on each mini "partner" (affiliate) planets, with "partners" earning a small percentage of their users' universal spending. This incentivises each mini planet "partner" to actively promote their own planet, drawing in more users.

 

[GeorgeSkywalker]

The smart play would be to enable new account creation on each mini "partner" (affiliate) planets, with "partners" earning a small percentage of their users' universal spending. This incentivises each mini planet "partner" to actively promote their own planet, drawing in more users.

This is already in place and has been since we had planets.

 

[Few Scars]

Can we please maintain a SciFi theme, what number of random planets will we start to see? This sounds really stupid.

 

[DaisyColdFinger]

This is already in place and has been since we had planets.

I hear you, though we don't yet know if this will be the case for the mini deed partners. Im saying if it is, it will be like going from costly single 8 PP line fishing to wide net "trawling" at a reduced cost.

 

[WrongKidDied21]

I approached Mindark to Lease RT from me, not the other way around... So I made my deal before Mindark i guess had finalized the strategy for porting planets to Unreal5 and the development tools that would be utilized after... Also My deal took almost a year to close. So AI had not even exploded at that point.

But I do know that from the moment Mindark chose to update to Unreal5 I faced an uncertain transition period for ROCktropia and that when I tried to do a lease it wasn't viable. If Calypso is going to use these Same Genesis Probe tools eventually then Cyrene will be in great place, maybe even better than it is now..

If other planets want to keep developing on the platform they have use the tools that are being presented... Unless they want to try to stop Mindark from updating the platform. I don't think the PP agreement would support that.

It seems from the tone of this announcement that some planets are undecided and MA is letting the players know that the consequences are pretty devastating and that there is some urgency needed in the decision making as tech is moving forward rapidly..

I don't want to advise the planet partners on how to deal with this. I'm not a planet partner. When I gave up RT, I emailed them all and I said I 'm turning the planet over to MA for what I believed to be the Good of the RT player base and my Stakeholders...

It was a leap of Faith for me and a massive risk. I have not cashed out. I'm gonna sink with the ship if MA fails.

And as far as the Howling Mine Teleportation balancing is concerned , don't get me started!!! I haven't slept in almost 90 days. I'm mining like a freak to figure out where the fucking Scottium is! And the last thing I want to see is MU fucked up anywhere for anyone.

I hope honestly the planets stay in Biz, its up to them to sit down and work out the transition deal one way or another.

Great Scott Neverdie! Scotty be hiding around here somewhere haha

 

[Bones]

I think that many players are just annoyed with how ND neglected RT and most players feel bitter towards him. So of course there is going to be people who is speaking their mind and expressing their anger and frustration his way.

Yeah ND might still be a player. But he has been in MA's group for over a decade now.

Am I bitter about this new direction yes of course I am. As I have stated this new idea of "Genesis Probe" to create planets will not work without the player base to support it.

What is more is the current items in the game and even all the old pre gold items will lose a lot of value because all of the new planets will then create more items. As I stated. The game is already oversaturated. Making more planets and more items without the player base is just suicide for the entire economy the only winner here is MA who is probably doing this as a last ditch money grab. MA never advertise the game. I think they only advertised when it went gold.

They rely on the player base/affiliates/Planet partners to advertise and bring new players in for them.

I am glad I sold most of my items before I had a break from the game because I have heard and checked in game auction and a lot of items have lost a lot of value already. I was waiting for UE5 but by the sounds of this latest news release, it appears UE5 could be another 4 years away yet.

Honestly it should not have even taken this long really. I am shocked it has. But everyone knows MA are slow at everything. They never communicate. Withdraw times are still disgusting timeframes. MA is just a shit company.

We need them to sell up and get the f out and let some other game company take over because things have to change.

One last thing, if EU is not going to be on Epic Games Store then I do not see how this new planet feature will bring in a vast amount of new players either. The game badly needs to be advertised and MA need to start communicating EVERYTHING and OFTEN. Why has many players quit the game over the years. Mainly because of how bad MA is and how bad the loot is lol.

Anyway I am done with my rant post.

NDS

 

[Rock Stone]

I remember how hard peeps tried to get those plots on N

 

[shaun117]

Damn you lot are some sad negative people. Half of you dont even play the game it seems yet you still find time to chat shit when we dont know anything

 

[jwestonmoss]

Everyone can't break even, let alone profit.

For everyone to break even we would need a crazy stream of money poured into the game that isn't from players. As long as there is markup people will lose, as long as MA needs their cut people will lose.

Only way for everyone to break even without money coming in would be if nothing had markup, all multipliers would be removed and someone sponsored the servers and staff.

Speaking of which, why don't we have ads in game?

If there are 5000 players and everyone is exposed for an average of ten ads any given night that would mean we could have another 2k Hof and happy player every day.

I am kind of surprised you don't see more digital ads too. The unobtrusive types, like on billboards that are part of the world, or items that drop, or something. Definitely not pop ups.

 

[jwestonmoss]

Can we please maintain a SciFi theme, what number of random planets will we start to see? This sounds really stupid.

this is way too restrictive.

while i understand not everyone might like RT, the concept of theme-park planets is a great one. personally i'd love to see a medieval planet, or a dinosaur planet, or an anime planet.

 

[jwestonmoss]

Damn you lot are some sad negative people. Half of you dont even play the game it seems yet you still find time to chat shit when we dont know anything

i really do think a lot of people just come on here to complain. don't understand it myself. we all complain sometimes, but you know, no need to be negative in the absence of a cause

 

[RickEngland]

How does announcing a massive list of risk and uncertainty, potentially on-going for 4+ years help an RCE game? Did an entire board decide this future without first debating cause and effect? As it feels to me, we've got a solo headless chicken now making the decisions. Example are Ark Moon deeds now L version with a 4 year life span. What brainless f***king child approved this announcement in an RCE environment. Can't you align your legal ducks in a nice row first?

How does MA move from a tiny limited number of new mining ships to a multiverse of user planets overnight. Isn't that kind of swinging the barometer in a completely opposite direction on steriods, Is someone having a laugh?

Not even worth debating the probe/s. Not even MA are likely to have answers to a million questions.

 

[The Mind]

How does announcing a massive list of risk and uncertainty, potentially on-going for 4+ years help an RCE game? Did an entire board decide this future without first debating cause and effect? As it feels to me, we've got a solo headless chicken now making the decisions. Example are Ark Moon deeds now L version with a 4 year life span. What brainless f***king child approved this announcement in an RCE environment. Can't you align your legal ducks in a nice row first?

How does MA move from a tiny limited number of new mining ships to a multiverse of user planets overnight. Isn't that kind of swinging the barometer in a completely opposite direction on steriods, Is someone having a laugh?

Not even worth debating the probe/s. Not even MA are likely to have answers to a million questions.

As far as i know Ark Moon is part of "Aris" and is already confirmed for the "transition".
Based on my understanding of the OP, deeds will be compensated ONLY if a planet undergoes "cataclysmic event" (aka, doesnt join the new format). Which probably indicates that deeds for Ark Moon will continue as they are.

 

[Fanan]

As far as i know Ark Moon is part of "Aris" and is already confirmed for the "transition".
Based on my understanding of the OP, deeds will be compensated ONLY if a planet undergoes "cataclysmic event" (aka, doesnt join the new format). Which probably indicates that deeds for Ark Moon will continue as they are.

Isn't ARIS the name of the new planet coming in the next weeks?

 

[NevadaJake]

I hope the ARIS mobs have new codex ranks we can grind.

 

[shaun117]

Isn't ARIS the name of the new planet coming in the next weeks?

Weeks you say?! surely not that soon?

 

[SnowingMoon]

This seems very exciting, I have a lot of experience in various different MMOs and i wonder if i can create my own world, but its too premature unless i see how this whole thing works with this terminal, i assume its using AI? but nonetheless it will be fun to try hopefully.

 

[Hego Damask]

Million dollar idea, planet called Botter heaven.
Whole planet no vehicle zone (not just spawn, but like the proteron spawn, cant even fly them down near the surface if you coming from space).

 

[Bones]

Million dollar idea, planet called Botter heaven.
Whole planet no vehicle zone (not just spawn, but like the proteron spawn, cant even fly them down near the surface if you coming from space).

Would be interesting to devise a planet with the spawns you wanted , one could grind endlessly.
And if there is the perfect equipment setup to optimize the hunt.
Could be a profit generator.

 

[WhiningSkeptic]

Million dollar idea, planet called Botter heaven.
Whole planet no vehicle zone (not just spawn, but like the proteron spawn, cant even fly them down near the surface if you coming from space).

And all mobs are shared loot

 

[Dante Inferno]

Let's imagine a new scenario:

-Once the PPs have grown tired of having to shell out for new technology, and before losing everything, they sell off the planets to MA, who becomes the sole administrator...

-Now for the second part: The Genesis probes are launched, people shell out more money, planets begin to be created... and now more money is spent to terraform everything and create planets... and make them attractive so people go and leave money...

And the moment of truth arrives:

-Whatever the "Genesis Partners" do, they will see that the best events, mobs, loot, and more will always be in CALYPSO... and the "Genesis Partners" will see their investments become worthless...