We demand change to lootable PVP in space

What should be done with lootable pvp in space

  • Lootable PVP should be removed

    Votes: 134 32.9%
  • Lootable PVP should be changed (loot comes from loot pool and not inventory)

    Votes: 55 13.5%
  • Leave it just as it is

    Votes: 169 41.5%
  • I dont care

    Votes: 49 12.0%

  • Total voters
    407

aia

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This is the one shot at keeping it interesting. Be strong from those who "demand" without even giving it a shot. Let's see how it works out. OK?

- Getting stuck at an outpost because MA implemented welding wire as requirement for repairs and made it lootable,

- Losing all my time travel crystals that I crafted myself on Next Island to a pk:er

- Getting shot in my back 172 times, getting decay on my (L) sleipnir each time and get sent back to same outpost, because a pk:er wants to have fun in a dedicated pvp zone without the possibility of teleporting away

- Paying 500 ped for a 5 ped (L) TT item to enter space, and/or ~3000 ped for a decent (L) spaceship

No please. I don't want to try it out.

I understand in a way that space is the way it is - MA wanted to have an arena for the "space pirates". On the other hand not everyone likes the concept of lootable pvp.

If lootable pvp is going to stay, at least the welding wire should be fixed *as soon as possible*. Not added to the "to do list" and queued up for next major VU. And for thos of us who ended up with stackables on wrong planet when space came because of too little information, offer us a one-time chance to relocate it through a support ticket to storage on the planet we want it. (Or in my case, maybe specific, make the teleportation tokens such as time travel crystals and telemans coins, unlootable - as far as I know they're unusable outside the planet they come from.) Lower the cost of thrusters, I deposited tons of PEDs last month so right now I don't feel I want to deposit another 500 ped for a 5 ped TT item - especially since the only reason of its cost is the blueprint clicks; the materials needed for it seemed common enough when I looked.

If space travel is supposed to need lots of PEDs, at least let us create avatars on the other planets. I got the feeling the guys who doesn't care doesn't care and will create alt avatars anyway as they always have, it's the honest people who gets suffering.

Some of the issues above could have been solved by having interplanetary teleporters in parallel with space during a transition period. During that period, people would have gotten a chance to move stackables safely where they wanted it, and the price for needed items (ships and thrusters) would have stabilized.
 
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Mr Trayles

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I make no defense of the way it was implemented. A transition period or at least a strong warning would have been nice.
 

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- Getting stuck at an outpost because MA implemented welding wire as requirement for repairs and made it lootable,

- Losing all my time travel crystals that I crafted myself on Next Island to a pk:er

- Getting shot in my back 172 times, getting decay on my (L) sleipnir each time and get sent back to same outpost, because a pk:er wants to have fun in a dedicated pvp zone without the possibility of teleporting away

- Paying 500 ped for a 5 ped (L) TT item to enter space, and/or ~3000 ped for a decent (L) spaceship

No please. I don't want to try it out.

:cry::cry::cry:
 

Rony

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Dont know if you are aware, but we can fly you safe and your sh..t too, with insurance, for a tax.
So all discussion is pointless, cant do it yourself, hire some pro who can do it for you.
 

burnsey

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- Getting stuck at an outpost because MA implemented welding wire as requirement for repairs and made it lootable,

- Losing all my time travel crystals that I crafted myself on Next Island to a pk:er

- Getting shot in my back 172 times, getting decay on my (L) sleipnir each time and get sent back to same outpost, because a pk:er wants to have fun in a dedicated pvp zone without the possibility of teleporting away

- Paying 500 ped for a 5 ped (L) TT item to enter space, and/or ~3000 ped for a decent (L) spaceship

No please. I don't want to try it out.

I understand in a way that space is the way it is - MA wanted to have an arena for the "space pirates". On the other hand not everyone likes the concept of lootable pvp.

If lootable pvp is going to stay, at least the welding wire should be fixed *as soon as possible*. Not added to the "to do list" and queued up for next major VU. And for thos of us who ended up with stackables on wrong planet when space came because of too little information, offer us a one-time chance to relocate it through a support ticket to storage on the planet we want it. (Or in my case, maybe specific, make the teleportation tokens such as time travel crystals and telemans coins, unlootable - as far as I know they're unusable outside the planet they come from.) Lower the cost of thrusters, I deposited tons of PEDs last month so right now I don't feel I want to deposit another 500 ped for a 5 ped TT item - especially since the only reason of its cost is the blueprint clicks; the materials needed for it seemed common enough when I looked.

If space travel is supposed to need lots of PEDs, at least let us create avatars on the other planets. I got the feeling the guys who doesn't care doesn't care and will create alt avatars anyway as they always have, it's the honest people who gets suffering.

Some of the issues above could have been solved by having interplanetary teleporters in parallel with space during a transition period. During that period, people would have gotten a chance to move stackables safely where they wanted it, and the price for needed items (ships and thrusters) would have stabilized.

Aw, you are so adorable with you little crystals and coins. I can't wait to loot them and dance on your dead carcass. :nana:
 

aia

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Aw, you are so adorable with you little crystals and coins. I can't wait to loot them and dance on your dead carcass. :nana:

If this isn't fixed soon, you're more likely to loot them from someone else who've bougth them from calypso auction.

I've deposited too much already..

Ah, btw how does it go for your landgrab nowdays when you don't have help of Star? I would have more confidence in Rony getting me there than you shooting us down... (heck I'd go with Rony just to leave you behind and if possible stand behind a laser myself).

And you were very brave in the RX event a couple of years ago, the one for HP<150, pretty much one-shotting everyone with your mod dar.
 
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Dont know if you are aware, but we can fly you safe and your sh..t too, with insurance, for a tax.
So all discussion is pointless, cant do it yourself, hire some pro who can do it for you.

No one can guarantee safety. Not without using an exploit. And using one of the exploits you can do it yourself. If you don't like that I suggest you file support cases.
 

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Dont know if you are aware, but we can fly you safe and your sh..t too, with insurance, for a tax.
So all discussion is pointless, cant do it yourself, hire some pro who can do it for you.
This game is a Real Cash Economy. Such an offer would require a massive ammount of trust in a known "pro" Player Killer. There is only a selected few who can be trusted. I am not aware of a PK society where all members can be trusted. So there is always the option that your escort just turns against you and loots your cash. Thus the system in its current form can´t work.
 

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Dont know if you are aware, but we can fly you safe and your sh..t too, with insurance, for a tax.
So all discussion is pointless, cant do it yourself, hire some pro who can do it for you.

Rony transported something for me worth 7-800ish ped.
I felt confident he was honest, and would likely use him again in a similar circumstance.

narfi
 

aia

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Rony transported something for me worth 7-800ish ped.
I felt confident he was honest, and would likely use him again in a similar circumstance.

narfi

I'll visualize my problem:
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I don't want to risk that. And I would prefer not to have to dump it in auction.

If MA and Next Island crew would allow it, I couldn't mind replacing it with some non-lootable gadget that gives free time travel ;)

I alwo got 4 teleman coins, 3 of them were bought on Calypso though after the change (the first coin was looted on Rocktropia before the change trying to get a HOF on a Rocktropian).
 
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And you were very brave in the RX event a couple of years ago, the one for HP<150, pretty much one-shotting everyone with your mod dar.

I apologize that we couldn't hold hands and shoot the RX units together. I don't know if you've read the item description for the mod dar but it states that you must appease it with the blood of noobs or forever will you get the dreaded yellow no loots.

You should probably hold a grudge against the gun for 5 years instead of me, it's evil!
 

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some tedious whining shit

You've already been told the solutions to all of these perceived problems.

If you won't listen, learn, and adapt as appropriate, then the only problem is your own stubbornness.
 

Mr Trayles

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This game is a Real Cash Economy. Such an offer would require a massive ammount of trust in a known "pro" Player Killer. There is only a selected few who can be trusted. I am not aware of a PK society where all members can be trusted. So there is always the option that your escort just turns against you and loots your cash.

Gosh this is sounding more and more like reality. Like some sort of virtual reality!!

Thus the system in its current form can´t work.

Definitely not! Reality sucks!

Ahh... I love this....
 

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I'll visualize my problem:
timetravelcrystals_in_storage.jpg

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I don't want to risk that. And I would prefer not to have to dump it in auction.

If MA and Next Island crew would allow it, I couldn't mind replacing it with some non-lootable gadget that gives free time travel ;)

I alwo got 4 teleman coins, 3 of them were bought on Calypso though after the change (the first coin was looted on Rocktropia before the change trying to get a HOF on a Rocktropian).

So this is the whole cause of your posts.. Anyway what is the purpose to transport "NI Things Only" from NI?

Also the whine you showed few posts back is ridiculous :D
 

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I'll visualize my problem:
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I don't want to risk that. And I would prefer not to have to dump it in auction.

not being sarcastic or smart-arse or anything, but what are they and why do we need them on other planets? What do they do?
 

aia

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not being sarcastic or smart-arse or anything, but what are they and why do we need them on other planets? What do they do?

They are used on Next Island to travel to Ancient Greece, the same way as "telemans coins" are used to travel from Rocktropia to "HELL". As far as I know, there is no use for them on Calypso, but I brought them with me because MA said "interplanetary teleportation will be disabled", and I didn't want to leave them behind (knowing it took months before vehicles got affordable prices).

What MA didn't tell in advance was that they were going to create a lootable pvp area in between.

I also got a load of looted crystals and misc mob parts from the mobs on Next Island, but those I brought back mainly as souvernirs, those I have no immediate need of bringing *back* to Next Island.
 

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No one can guarantee safety. Not without using an exploit. And using one of the exploits you can do it yourself. If you don't like that I suggest you file support cases.

We can guarantee, and we can do it without exploit. BA protected transport is the only 100% fool-proof way to move resources. If you aren't willing to risk 1000's of PED in resources carting them across the universe, have us do it. We will provide insurance on them, so that if anything is taken, you get the full amount back. If you choose not to use BA transport, and we loot you (we will), all your base are belong to us :D
 

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I´m not a big fan of PvP and never was.
Currently there is no easy way to protect yourself from it while traveling.

I wouldn´t mind PvP as much as long as the pirates had to actually make an effort in order to kill the bigger ships.

The motherships seem to be made of cotton candy..

Currently there is no real challenge for anyone to kill a mothership unless its manned with X amount of people on each station with RK-20´s. There´s only 3 gunner seats available and they have dead angles which makes it impossible to shoot back in the 5 seconds it takes to be destroyed.

It reminds me of that time when i killed Godzilla with a wooden butterknife with 5 pokes..

Not safe at all... The only way to be safe is to not travel at all or to plan the traveling like a MoFo and go in a bigass group with protection, and even then you are easy prey.

Please change it so that every station has to be blown up instead of a single station and then KABOOM! or increase the SI on the stations drastically.

//SM
 
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We can guarantee, and we can do it without exploit. BA protected transport is the only 100% fool-proof way to move resources. If you aren't willing to risk 1000's of PED in resources carting them across the universe, have us do it. We will provide insurance on them, so that if anything is taken, you get the full amount back. If you choose not to use BA transport, and we loot you (we will), all your base are belong to us :D

Death - BlackAngels = Space Cabby's soc now ~ Fact !
 

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We can guarantee, and we can do it without exploit. BA protected transport is the only 100% fool-proof way to move resources. If you aren't willing to risk 1000's of PED in resources carting them across the universe, have us do it. We will provide insurance on them, so that if anything is taken, you get the full amount back. If you choose not to use BA transport, and we loot you (we will), all your base are belong to us :D



If we choose not to use you, you'll loot your clients?...

So basicly your a hired pirate service? LOL! good for you. I'll pass
 

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Wow someone was outvoted! :D

Wistrel
 

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Have to say that I was a bit mad at first when I heard that space is lootable PVP, simply because I will never have the funds to compete with some of the (wannabe-) big guys out there.

However, …

Coming Releases of Space said:
In the pipeline for the coming space-related releases we have warp speed to experience the thrill of space travel and more advanced engineering features. To increase protection for the motherships and its crew from opponents the maximum number of gunner positions will be increased and 4 shield sections will be added. Also, heavy weapons, torpedos, will be added.

I still have high hopes that warp speed will be pretty much like teleporting from one point in space to another, so hopping from one safe zone to the next and crossing PVP in warp speed onboard of a larger spaceship should only bear a relatively low risk of being killed and looted. At the cost of (more) expensive warp drives of course.

This should leave enough room in space for both those seeking to burn PED for a PVP-thrill and orange jumpers in coach.
 
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