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Lvl11 FAP: Zychion Pro

Gratz on the find Auktuma!

That is a hell of a fap. :D

The requirements are kinda silly, I agree here with others, you can buy quite some MOD faps for the price of the skills today...
Maybe it's an indicator what a mod fap will be worth when someone is ever reaching that paramedic lvl in 15 years, and prefer this one because cannot afford a mod. fap. :laugh:
 
Nice item but I have to wonder what MA are playing at by nerfing skill gains so that gaining above 5k in most skills is like climbing a cliff, then introducing items that require Level 109 in a profession?? :loco:
 
Hmmm if Optima and Voland already can't use 'm should we really be happy for auktuma on his useless find? I think he and the community actually deserve more usefull items.

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gratz :wtg:
 
The problem is not the lvl 109 requirement.
The problem is that Auktuma is 10 years ahead our time :D
Grats for the find !
 
binfordw said:
I Still say no way in hell anyone in game has anywhere near those stats- Just doesnt make sense to.
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I think there are a few ubers who have around or a bit more then this level.

But like i said not more then a handfull. And these are probably the old time players who used to FAP a lot with their mod FAP.

Cheers
Richard
(ingame Siam)
 
Gratz Auktuma !!

Awesome fap indeed. And great chalenge just to half max it. Run Kygon, run :)
 
rhogenbe said:
I think there are a few ubers who have around or a bit more then this level.

But like i said not more then a handfull. And these are probably the old time players who used to FAP a lot with their mod FAP.

Cheers
Richard
(ingame Siam)
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I very much doubt it.
Have you tried jdegre's chipping optimizer to see what kind of skills are required?
F.ex.:
100 intel, 12k dext, 12k dipity, 18k anat, 13k diag, 15k FA, 10k medicine, 10k treatment and you're at 108.50 (Doctor isn't included in the tool) :rolleyes:
 
lol grats but that fap is rather pointless, who has 115 in paramedic? (109 to use 115 to max)

nice stats tho :)
 
gratum, Augis!

jeez, 109 pro?!?!? :laugh:


J.


was it the balancing manager who was asked if MA was really thinking it through carefully when they made the L faps with requirements that high and he said yes? pardon me but that would mean an un-nerf must be close for paramedic skills because I want to see a player who is willing to hardcore heal for the next 5-10 years to reach 100+ levels and that means only healing, not wasting time on shooting or anything else. ok, there's a possibility to find a hardcore hunter for that long but there's not much fun in following him and healing all that time (being automatic helps you say?)
 
Since there's no tt on the screeny, and no-one (except the crafter perhaps) has used this FAP....isn't it a little early to say it's useless?

If it's not too madly expensive and has good economy it could make a very nice skilling tool for those unable to afford a mod fap and experiencing a slowdown (most of us) perhaps ?

It's maybe a warning that mod FAPs may one day suffer a value drop even if long off in the future, and so could any item that is now rare and uber that could be replaced by a crafted (L) item ?

Gratz on the success crafting it whatever, that was something not many folk could have done.

t
 
Ways of MA are unknown :)

Sorry if my joke was too loud on prev post, but what I think that current items should be for current users. Dont think that MA guys predicted that ppl will chip in to use that FAPs. It's just an alternative for present high fappers.

Lets imagine i'm lvl120 fapper and i have mod/imp FAP atm.

Situation 1. With new alternative I could free my peds what are frozen on FAP and invest it to more profitable bussines than faping. While using new FAP to have my fun still. I think peds what i freed and invested it will work enough good to cover that "below average" decay :p

Situation 2. With the new alternative I could read warn that market on mod/im FAPs could decrease. First FAP isnt yet very attractive, but that is just first step. What will be those of Txx or URxx or any new type? How long it will take to introduce new FAPs? 1 year? What that could cost me to use that Zychion Pro in comparison to money I will win on selling mod/imp FAP now instead of twice cheaper in 1-2 years later. 20k ped it's just 10% (?) of mod fap market and could let me have ~200 clicks on Zychion each day over 1 year.

Also on selling my mod/imp FAP i probably will do one more man happy :p

Again, it's just an alternative for present fappers. Chipping to high level isnt very efficient investment at all :p In any area

Mostly MA use to shock but sometimes it could be milder actions :D

/auk
 
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Woha fapping like a mofo to get to lvl 25 and going sooooo slow:rofl:
That lvl req is just a joke :eek:
 
timmmers said:
Since there's no tt on the screeny, and no-one (except the crafter perhaps) has used this FAP....isn't it a little early to say it's useless?
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lets say I want to chip to get 115 pro standaing from my lowly 46 level thats gonna cost approx 300k-400k peds and thats from 46 (cost me so far approx 30-45k of chipping)

lets say I skill using my SIB fap it would take approx 10-20 years of hardcore hunting on massive mobs that need alot of fapping

so its for those 5 possible uber uber uber players who may decide to use it for a little fun before deciding the decay and reload speed suck compared to mod fap

so 300k ped chipping? worthless
so say 15 years skilling? worthless
for current most skills ava's to 'play with for fun'? for 99% of players worthless

value of this fap in my virtual and IRL lifetime - nil
 
If you import the skills of Neomaven into Jdegre's chipping optimiser you will see than Neo would have to buy 1,164,913 PEDs worth of chips to reach level 109.

That's 3-4 Mod faps worth of chips and I tend to think the optimiser is a little optomistic with some of the %'s on the chips too.

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Blake Seven said:
If you import the skills of Neomaven into Jdegre's chipping optimiser you will see than Neo would have to buy 1,164,913 PEDs worth of chips to reach level 109.

That's 3-4 Mod faps worth of chips and I tend to think the optimiser is a little optomistic with some of the %'s on the chips too.
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wow I didnt reliase I did such a low estimate, so we only need to chip a 'cND' worth of skill ... someone tell me that idea isnt silly? thats only $116k :laugh:

and if you notice that 109 you can USE the fap you dont max the fap until 115 level so I'd imange its gonna take another $40k to max it

$150k vs $30k for modfap ... worthless I say lol
 
The new FAP is for high fappers and let them decide themselve if it is reasonable or not. I've mentioned just two situations, but we could have various different in our life here and it is good to have higher freedom on having more alternatives.
 
All the calculations used dont take account of further skill nerfs that we are most likely to get in the future too.

I'd say its like chasing a rainbow. :D
 
kygon said:
and if you notice that 109 you can USE the fap you dont max the fap until 115 level so I'd imange its gonna take another $40k to max it
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From his current recorded level to 115 = 1,733,903 PED so another 500-600k to max (add 2 mod faps to first estimate).

Kudos to Auk for the achievement, boo hiss to MA for the stats
 
Auktuma said:
The new FAP is for high fappers and let them decide themselve if it is reasonable or not. I've mentioned just two situations, but we could have various different in our life here and it is good to have higher freedom on having more alternatives.
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yes but as IRL I have alternatives of 'cycle to work my my mountain bike' or 'get driven to work in limo with topless supermodeles feeding me strawberries'

one of these is possible the other is not true I have the freedome to choose the limo option but in my lifetime its highly unlikely I'll be in a position that allows me that option so its purly givimg me the illusion of alternatives.

an alternative that is never atainable is not an alternative.:laugh:

as a dedicated L faps user and someone who plans depositing ALOT to get better fap I find this insulting that MA produce things like this that I can never EVER use without

1 - winning a IRL lottery
or
2 - I would need 10 ot 20 ATHs
or
3 - skill for approx 30-40 years

how fucking crap is that lol

but I guess by the time I'm retired IRL , I'm playing EU in my wheelchair in my retirement home I could look at using a 68 level fap lol
 
Who the hell would be stupid enough to spend a million peds in FA chips to use a fap that has much lower HPS and (most likely) worse eco than Mod and even Imp fap ?
 
I was going to say Mod faps are going down.. but then i saw the recomended level ;)

Gratz any who :D
 
Fjolla said:
Who the hell would be stupid enough to spend a million peds in FA chips to use a fap that has much slower HPS and (most likely) worse eco than Mod and even Imp fap ?
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noone = fap is worthless ;)

<kygon contemplates selling his para skills and buying a mob fap and turning his back on L fap whoring once and for all!>
 
Blake Seven said:
If you import the skills of Neomaven into Jdegre's chipping optimiser you will see than Neo would have to buy 1,164,913 PEDs worth of chips to reach level 109.

That's 3-4 Mod faps worth of chips and I tend to think the optimiser is a little optomistic with some of the %'s on the chips too.

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I'm affraid those numbers are way off. Please note that the paramedic profession is only solved up to 80%. The contribution of unlockable skills beyond treatment is not known, and they contribute up to 20% which is _a lot_.

This means that all the chipping recommended by the tool is done without these high-level unlockables, so the total value to chip should be much much lower than that (but still ridiculously high, i agree).

If anyone of you has unlocked medical therapy or doctor and want to contribute to fine-tune the paramedic profession, please PM me with your skills and paramedic level.

Cheers,
/jdegre.


PS @ Blake Seven: regarding the "optimistic" chip prices set by the tool, they are taken directly from peauction.com, but you can override them and set your own in the "chip prices" tab.
 
I'm affraid those numbers are way off. Please note that the paramedic profession is only solved up to 80%. The contribution of unlockable skills beyond treatment is not known, and they contribute up to 20% which is _a lot_. This means that all the chipping recommended by the tool is done without these high-level unlockables, so the total value to chip should be much much lower than that (but still ridiculously high, i agree).
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Even if there is a profession of Consultant Cardiac Specialist Surgeon which has yet to be unlocked, fundamentally it is an awfully high level to aim a FAP at :) The intention was to use the tool as an example of the magnitude of the costs rather than specific.

PS @ Blake Seven: regarding the "optimistic" chip prices set by the tool, they are taken directly from peauction.com, but you can override them and set your own in the "chip prices" tab.
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I'm aware of that :) was just trying to make the point in my post that the actual costs of chipping would be different from the 'default' figures that the tool uses.

[offtopic]
I use the chipping tool many times a day and for many different reasons including situations like this and reckon it to be in the top 3 of EU software/sites (PE Ass and Wiki the others) .
 
wtf MA

impressive fap indeed.

dont know why sutch a high level thow , i mean anyone remotly close to this must already have a mod fap

MA must be realy looking far into the future here
 
T3h_plonker said:
MA must be realy looking far into the future here
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yes when I finally hand down my paramedic skills to my grand children and they in turn pass they're skill to theyre grand children to possibly come close to using this fap

eu is turning into a generational game lol

Z fap that 1st fap a lifetime is not enuf to max :)
 
kygon said:
noone = fap is worthless ;)
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I disagree when you say that this fap is worthless

I already pointed out too that nobody will probably use it to its full potencial.
I doubt that currently anybody in game has such high FA skills, and those who will have it in the future will have a Mod or at least Improved FAP, if they don't then they would be stupid because if they sold their FA skills they could buy a couple Mod FAP just to have an "economic way to heal". Like people in the old days used FAP-5 in between mob killing instead of their higher (non-uber) healing tools.


So what is it useful for ?

I see as an emergency fap with crappy stats:

12 Seconds reload
45 minimum heal
68 average expectable heal
and about (to be confirmed) 18 PEC decay

For a newcommer he would be better by buying this (at low markup 101~105) than a deluxe fap.

For a player with already some skills, it would be better to use a decoy and run off and heal far way with some of the new L FAPs
 
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